Bugsy732

As stated before, once I move funds to cover the refunds in to the linked square account all refunds will be processed through the square system tomorrow.

David8631 is the only person who is able to get a refund from me using Paypal. Since he paid by check and at this point he is now just getting this refund by money order as I originally intended. Let's be clear here. Everyone who paid using a credit card will receive their refunds through square. The payment porthole your order was processed. This provides satisfaction to any disputes with card companies that may be opened or has already been opened. While it seems great to each of you to get a refund via Paypal it is not an option. Between possible and pending disputes with your respective card companies the additional fees from Paypal and the fees I include from square I am not going to process anything through Paypal. Buyer and seller protection is what was considered when using square to facilitate this group buy. I'm sorry if this upsets you but in order to protect myself from continued claims and to be sure that all refunds are credited properly everyone else's refunds are being processed with square tomorrow. As I originally stated numerous times.

Thanks Steve but at this point I am just refunding everyone their money. Everyone has a bad taste in their mouth from this and Rightfully so. I will most likely retain 2 sights and after everyone gets their refunds if anyone is interested in a ftf purchase I'd be happy to meet. If not I'm sure I'll be able to move them locally. You are a great addition to this forum and a stand up member. I will aspire to be more like you in my future actions

Are you serious? You gave me three options to get the payment to you one of the first two options can and will be competed tomorrow. I said in my message to you, if you wanted me to refund you by Paypal send me an invoice and I will pay it with a credit card. Otherwise I would send you payment tomorrow and provide proof as discussed. If you want to do the Paypal then add the 3% so you get your full amount. But don't accuse me of trying to get over on you for the fees when you are the one who offered it as a option for refund. If Paypal was never an option for the refund then why are you offering it? At this point you'll get a photo of the completed money order tomorrow and photo tracking when I am at the post office. You'll have your refund Saturday.

I will be on and off to reply for the rest of the day as I can get online. If I don't reply right away it's not because I'm dodging anyone. I just can not get to the forum to reply.

I have openly posted that I would provide you with tracking and photo proof of the money order when I return tomorrow. I have also provided replies to you via inbox as well. I also stated that You will be the first to receive your refund because you paid via check it will be to you Saturday.

This is a priority but there is only so much I can do from the road. I will be processing refunds tomorrow as previously stated and this will end.

I will provide the information you request when I process the refunds tomorrow.

I have already said in a previous post that I need to move funds in to the account that is linked to square before I can process the refunds. If I process the refunds before the funds are there the refunds will fail and then a whole other round of complaints will follow. The funds received to purchase the sights were used for just that to purchase the sights. I will be covering the refunds out of my own pocket until my return is processed. I have not evaded any reason why I can not process the refunds from the road.

There is not much more that I can do except refund everyone's money. And I am taking every step to do so. Once again by offering up the refunds I am now met with another allegation. It seems there is no right answer for the membership here. I am anxious to get things resolved as quickly as possible as I am sure everyone involved is as well.

No they are not. I used another store that I use to ship frequently. At this point I am just going to process refunds for everyone. I have done my best to remedy the problems that have come up and have been as informative as possible and reply as quickly as possible while trying to juggle other things out side of the group buy. It's frustrating for all involved in sure and I would like this to be over as quickly as possible If anyone is skeptical about receiving a refund I encourage you to contact your card company and let them know you have not received a item you ordered. They will assist you in opening a claim. Once you get the refund from me through the square system please notify the card company so they can conclude their case. I will also provide any proof of the refund they require. It is/was not my intention to rip anyone off or sell anyone a clone as implied by various members here. I am truly sorry for all of the aggravation everyone has gone through. As I have mentioned already numerous times, I will be processing refunds on Friday. David will get proof of MO and shipping label Friday around noon and everyone else should get notifications via square. I have done business with quite a few people on this forum and have always come through with a quality product and help when I can provide it. While I have had my problems in the past I have tried to be as up front as possible and as informative as possible. I attempted to coordinate a group buy here and it blew up in my face. I have offered every accommodation I can by offering refunds or ftf delivery. Whatever reply I give is met with resistance. All packages will be recovered and returned. Refunds will be processed Friday as mentioned. Updated will be provided as quickly as possible. Outside of this there is not much more I can do to resolve things. Edited for spelling

This is exactly what I am trying to do.

Like I have said before, I have been in contact as best I can, and have offered multiple options as to resolve this with everyone. There is not much more I can do except refund your money or have The sights delivered. Most of you have opted for refunds and I will process them on Friday for you as I discussed in my previous post. Heavyopp if you want a refund let me know I'm happy to give it to you. As I mentioned to another member. You can also call your credit card company and dispute the charge and let them know you never received your product. They will assist you in getting your claim started and once you get your refund that I process on my end you should let them know so they can conclude their case. I will also provide them with proof of refund. Edited for spelling

Like thousands of other website owners in the world I purchased the web name and opted for the privacy option using go daddy. It is not a crime not is it illegal.

Like i have said before I am not hiding behind anything. I use the ups store like hundreds of other small businesses to receive mail and packages.

Like I have said I my previous posts, I am happy to provide the sights or your refund. Your refund will be for the purchase price you paid and shipping. Nothing more. If you want a refund I will process it for you as discussed in previous posts on Friday.

I do have a po box there. As with many small businesses that originate from a home business I use a ups mail box for a business address. I am able to receive packages when I am not around and I don't have to worry about anyone taking taking them. I have most items sent there but there are a few vendors who ship directly to my home address. Yes that is the address that David sent the check to. It is also the return address on all shipping labels so if a package comes back unexpectedly, someone will be there to get it. I ship from there and another ups store in the depthford area closer to one of my jobs.

Like I have said before, I am happy to offer you a refund and process the refund through square. I have not once said I have disputed any refunds or have given any indication that I would not give refunds. If you want the sight then please let me know if not then in happy to process your refund like everyone else who has asked for one.

The eotech are genuine and not knock offs as described. I purchased the sights through a vendor and all come with factory warranty. Selling a knock off and claiming it to be real would not only be foolish but just as bad as keeping anyone's money and not refunding it as I am offering to do here. It's not hard to spot a clone.

I will be processing refunds for all on Friday. I need to place funds into the account that is linked to square in order to cover the return payments. That is not something I can do from the road.

David I will be sending out your refund Friday morning. Inbox me your email address and I will provide proof of USPS money order and shipping label by 12 noon Friday.

While the links you posted are true of my past dealings on another forum I can only say that my intentions here are honest and with good intentions. While the person in that transaction felt jaded they did receive their refund via Paypal. As I stated in my other post, I not once asked anyone to pay using a method they did not have buyer protection with. The one person who paid with a check I even first asked they pay with a credit card using the square system. Like I had said before, this payment method provides buyer protection. I never once said I would not provide refunds to everyone. I am happy to process them for whoever asks for them. I never once evaded any questions or haven't ducked out and not responded to anyone. I have tried to be in as much contact with everyone as best as I can while traveling and working. I just posted a little while ago that I would be happy to process refunds for anyone if i could not get this straightened out before I get back. I also offered to deliver ftf with whoever wanted to meet as well. I find it extremely unprofessional for member of the moderating staff to make a post such as yours without inquiring about the details of a previous transaction. The op in the reef forum thread received their money back. The person who ordered a light fixture and had issues had the fixture replaced by the vendor who drop shipped the light to them. The issue was not with me but with the vendor who drop shipped the fixture, the buyer knew this but because the light was purchased through my site the blame falls on me. The other buyers who claim they received broken skimmer cups had them replaced with additional cups but failed to mention that because they were pissed that they had to wait for the manufacture to replace them. I was asked by JON to address the issues with this group buy more actively because of his concern with the reef forum transaction and I have complied with his request, and have been trying to get thjngs resolved. If anyone feels the need to file back charges with their card companies to secure their transactions/refunds before I can get them processed please do so. I will still process refunds as requests come in and get your money back to you. Again this is the whole reason I used the square system. I again apologize for the delays with this order. I asuchnas everyone else want this transaction to come to a close and we can all move on to the next thing. If anyone wants a refund please message me or post here.

If I can't get things straightened out by the time I get back I will make arrangements to set up FTF pick ups or refunds as decided by each buyer. Again, if anyone wants to request a refund let me know and I will start the process.

I replied to your inbox letting you know that I would get you the info you requested when I get back to my hotel. And I will do so when I get back later this evening. If you want a refund I will be happy to give it to you.

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