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NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
The important question is, which law? Is a violation of no gun sign at a private business mere trespass or is it a violation of illegal possession in sensitive places? These two are vastly different in many aspects, including consequences. -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
Isn't it a scheme to fund anti-gun organizations with taxpayer money? -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
I have friend who recently received his PTC directly from PD, no detour to the county court. Submitted on Dec 02, received on Jan 25, unrestricted, from Burlington Township, and the fee is still $50. -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
A "de minimis" infraction is still a crime. But it depends on the circumstances and it's up to the discretion of a judge to dismiss the charge. Still BS in my opinion. Exercising a constitutionally protected right shouldn't be this perilous. Section 2C:2-11 - De minimis infractions :: 2014 New Jersey Revised Statutes :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia P.S. They could confiscate your firearm or even permit, though. -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
And I don't think banning open carry passes the Bruen test. There is no historical analogue at all. Though concealed carry was restricted, under totally different rationale. But that's another topic. -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
"... provided that a brief, incidental exposure of a handgun while transferring it to or from a holster or due to the shifting of the person’s body position or clothing shall be deemed a de minimis infraction within the contemplation of N.J.S.2C:2-11". This covers brief, incidental EXPOSURE. And contrary to popular myth, printing (only showing shape of a handgun under garment) is never illegal in any jurisdiction in the U.S. -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
IIRC, it all depends on if the post office has its own parking lot or shares one with other entities, i.e., strip mall. You just can't carry in a parking lot exclusively used by the post office. -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
But how to get onto Ellis Island is a bit of tricky ... And don't you ever step into the New York side !! -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
So the following places are OK then, since they are under National Park Services, not "any park, beach, rec facility playground owned/controlled by state, county, or muni gov't, or part of above designated gun free zone". Right? New Jersey (U.S. National Park Service) (nps.gov) -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
It's a full-court vote. Not surprised that they denied overturning the 2nd Circuit. Alito said it all. It is to respect the lower court's procedure and the purview of their own colleague Sotomayor, who extended the courtesy of presenting the petition to the full court in the first place instead of ruling by her own. But it doesn't say anything negative about the merits of the original complaint. On the contrary, I can almost smell that Alito and Thomas are goading the plaintiffs to bring it on full speed. And there is also a subtle warning to the 2nd Circuit not to drag it out. It feels like Alito and Thomas almost are hoping something really bad coming out of the 2nd Circuit, so they can have another chance to smack NYS and ilk squarely on the head. 22A557 Antonyuk v. Nigrelli (01/11/2023) (supremecourt.gov) -
NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
Just one point. There is no extra federal restriction on carrying firearm in national parks. It generally follows the law of the state where the park is located. However, any occupied building (federal facilities) within national parks is off limit. And such buildings must be posted with specific signage to be considered valid gun free zone. Firearms in National Parks (U.S. National Park Service) (nps.gov) P.S. All the standalone restrooms within national parks usually don't have such signage. -
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NJ LAWMAKERS ANNOUNCE PLANS TO DESTROY RIGHT TO CARRY
doublepar replied to M1152's topic in Pending Legislation Discussion
Just want to point out, constitution protection aside, "keep and bear" arms is not exactly analogous to "keep and drive" cars. When someone bears firearm, they are merely carrying it, not actively operating, i.e., firing it. The more appropriate analogue is to carry a car on a flatbed. You don't need license, registration or insurance for that car unless you decide to take it down for a spin on public road. Now you may ask, what about defensive use of firearm in public? But in most public settings, we civilians can only discharge firearm during certain EMERGENCIES. Can state mandate license for any action to avoid death or severe bodily injury? Personally, I do not think so. Of course, if state mandates license, registration and insurance for a Permit to Discharge Handgun in public during non-emergencies (if there is ever a such thing), I am all for it.