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  4. Posted

    10 minutes ago, gleninjersey said:

    At least there's one Republican calling them on this nonsense.  

    It's shocking how many answers the creator of this bill DOESN'T have about their own bill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-a2a6n0r5A

    At this point I would be shocked if this bill didn't come down from Murphys office. Meaning, he can't answer questions about "his bill" because he probably didn't even write it.  Also, it's "ironic" that the restrictions that some judges were putting on the permits are so close to alot of the limitations in this bill. Almost like it's all coming from one central place as "recommendations and guidance"....

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  6. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Walkinguf61 said:

    Lawmakers have qualified immunity in what laws they pass. The person who’s rights are violated gets to sue the person or entities that actually enforce it. It’s comes  from common law and is in the constitution at the federal level. Then it’s recognized in that states are separate sovereignties.  

    From what I understand qualified immunity only goes so far... Their protection is in fact there but is limited at some point. For example Article 1 Section 6 of the US Constitution says "They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place." A felony offence is considered "a crime of high seriousness" meaning not a misdemeanor. Depriving civil rights from thousands of citizens is extremely serious in my opinion. In fact it can be argued that this type of felony offence is substantially worst than a lot of other examples.

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    7 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

    this is the important part. i don't know how we do it......maybe someone has to have the balls to sue the snot out of one of these nutters personally and professionally.........but that is what has to happen. no, vote them out doesn't work. if it did, we wouldn't be in this mess.

    According to the lawyers the New Jersey legislator has written itself exempt from personal liability due to the laws they pass... However in my opinion they are not exempt from federal civil rights lawsuits. There are federal civil rights statues on the books that I believe can be enforced against politicians.

    -Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights 

    -Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242 - Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

    See link here:

    https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/federal-civil-rights-statutes#:~:text=Title 18%2C U.S.C.%2C Section 241 - Conspiracy Against Rights&text=It further makes it unlawful,of any rights so secured.

    For some reason 2a groups never pursue this angle... I would love to see it attempted. In my opinion this is the ONLY way there civil rights violations will be reduced. Without personal accountability there is absolutely no reason for them to stop.

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  10. Posted

    21 minutes ago, SOMBYS said:

    I have been waiting 61 days and from I am hearing from people at the courthouse the judge is waiting for murphys new gun laws to issue any permits. When I spoke to the lady in the office where permits are printed out she said they have not received any for some time now and they don't know why. I do, the judge is not signing them. I contacted strikeforce last week and have not heard anything.

    When was your application received by the court? What is your case number?

  12. Posted

    12 minutes ago, Carolina Native said:

    Your information from 10/7 may not have been accurate.  I spoke with them on the 19th, last Wednesday, and was told they were working on the low 100's.  

    That would mean they completed 20 some odd applications on Friday.  That's  still not great progress but it is consistent with what they have indicated.  

    The information that I posted is what I was told by the court. I have no way to validate it though. I have been writing down all my conversations with the police and the court in association with my application process.

    Let's hope that there was a missunderstanding or something. Trust me I don't want to be negative and I want to believe that the court is processing applications appropriately.

    I wish I knew the entire detailed process that the court is actually doing besides basically taking a pre-typed letter, inserting a name, date, and qualified firearms, printing it and putting that, the application, and permit infront of the judge to sign. Than mailing them back to the police departments in bulk packets. I am very interested in what is hindering progress so much.

  13. Posted

    Some not so promising news for Sussex County Carry permits... 

    I spoke to the court earlier today (10/25/22) and they said they just got case / permit number 125 to the judge. When I spoke to the court on 10/7/22 they told me they were working on permit 120 numbers....

    To me this means that there must be a huge problem. Have they stopped issuing permits? It would sure appear so. How in the course of 18 days have they not moved out of the "120" numbers?

    At this point there must be HUNDREDS if not over a THOUSAND carry permit application submissions within Sussex County. At this processing rate it will take years for people to get their permits.

    The court indicated that the staff is overwhelmed, which may be the case, however the current issuing process is NOT the public's fault! Our rights should not be held up because our state government created a process that they cannot handle in a timely manner.

    I also want to mention that the police departments are doing all the legwork (investigations ext). With that said what could be taking so long at the court? Why are other county courts like Passaic for example having no issues processing permits?

  14. Posted

    2 minutes ago, [email protected] said:

    Mine was signed by judge Conforti. It specifically said, he was on recall.

    If they recalled a judge to do permits than why wouldn't they be able to process them 5 days a week? It seems strange that the court can only process 25 a week when the investigative work is already done. Basically all they have to do it print out court orders with names / guns / dates, and sign paperwork....

     

  18. Posted

    Of course we should continue to email, call, write, ext to oppose.... but the only relief we seem to get here in NJ is through the courts... Let's hope post Bruen NJ judges will start doing their jobs and upholding the constitution.

    Our biggest issue is that the legislative bodies are not held accountable for violating rights....

    I think the Republicans need to start pressing for amendments to these bills to include the same fees, hoops to jump through, ext to voting rights. It will help expose what the legislature is doing to civil rights.

  20. Posted

    21 hours ago, [email protected] said:

    Vernon,

    The PD was fairly good with accepting, signing, and forwarding to court. 

    Only question unanswered is if a picture of the order is okay to have rather than the original order.

    Permit says see order,  and order says both must be on me at all times.

    Does your permit have Restrictions: "None" and "See Court Order" checked?

    Also what day was your money order cashed? Mine was finally cashed on Wednesday October 12th so I'm hoping to see my permit soon...

    Do you know what permit number yours is?

  22. Posted

    1 hour ago, kc17 said:

    I'd not heard of that domain before, did a quick search and see it's based in Germany. The IP Address is from there as well. Maybe the NJSP server did block it based on that?

    I'd try sending from one of your other accounts, or try to call them. 

    Edit to add.... did you include your case number as well? I had that in the subject line of the email. Probably not required, but if it makes it easier for them to look me up, that much better. 

    I am going to try to contact the court again tomorrow to see if they got my application. If they didn't I will try to email again from another account. I wasn't able to find the phone number for the FIU in Trenton. My application was submitted 7/29.

  24. Posted

    1 hour ago, kc17 said:

    8/1 1800hrs, drop off packet to NJSP Barracks, Hamilton, Mercer Co. Troopers were polite but not familiar with the process. FIU gone for the day. 

    8/2 0915hrs, called Barracks' FIU to get Case number and Identogo Service Code since Troopers on 8/1 had no clue what I was talking about. Trooper confirmed my packet was complete. Trooper was polite, but could not or would not give me answers to the process or timeline beside he does his thing then sends it to Trenton. 

    8/6 1100hrs, fingerprints completed.

    Crickets.... references not contacted.

    10/6 1155hrs, called Barracks, computer hung up on me. 1156hrs, called again, sent to FIU Sgt's VM. Left message.

    10/6 1400hrs, sent email to NJSP HQ FIU. 

    10/6 1540hrs (as I type this post), email response from Trenton saying they have no record of my application. Provided me an email address to use to contact the Barracks. 

     

    At least they are responding to your emails I sent them an email last Friday to the email address [email protected] and I still haven't received a response. I just checked my spam folder as well to be sure.... Is that the email you contacted them at? Also what email address did they reply from?

     

    Thanks

  25. Posted

    1 hour ago, Krdshrk said:

    Vernon.

    Court order. 2 pages of legal garbage. Pistols qualified with in the order not on the card. But order states card and order must be carried while armed

    If the only "restriction" is carrying the guns you qualified with than why can't they just put that on the card.... Why does everything need to be so silly! Imagine if we had freedom of speech permits and you had to carry a court order to talk? Or imagine showing up to vote and being denied because you couldn't produce your voter ID and court order... These are constitutional rights!!!!

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