Bob B

When I got mine extended, the clerk just put them in the typewriter, x'd out the old date and typed in the new date, initialed the change and that was it. It took less than 5 minutes.

+1 They will help you.

At least Denny is gone. It's about time. He should have been eliminated 2 episodes ago. Now, at least it's a competition.

I liked it. All press is good press. The article is clearly written with some bias, but people have a great capacity to see the truth. One thing I don't like is the negative connotation of the word "Militia." Whether a person likes it or not, by law, they are in this nation's and this state's militia from the age of 17 to 45. It is only prudent to be a competent marksman if ever you have to be called up to defend her.

Count me in.

Whethere it is wise to do so is one question. Whether it is legal is quite another. From Division of Fish and Wildlife Website: Do you have a garden or an apple tree? See if you can get a permit. You will be exempted from the 450' rule. How about 'dem apples!

ANJRPC Regional Vice Presidents: Maria Alampi, Sandyston David Boland, West Orange Lawrence J. Braico, North Bergen Lisa Marie Caso, Jersey City Kathy Chatterton, Glen Rock Anthony P. Colandro, Belleville Mike Cutrera, Middlesex County Craig Dear, Woodbury Paul Devane, Ringos Robert Esch, Franklin Lakes John Gemmill, Cliffwood Beach Ted Guis, Riverdale John Healey, Highland Lakes Peter J. Hefferan, Wantage Allan Johnson, Hackettstown Carol Katona, Hamilton David Lange, Glen Rock Carl A. Leisinger III, Trenton Robert Maddox, Marlboro Tammie Maddox, Howell Jerry Martin, Wharton Evan Nappen, Esq. Eatontown William H. O'Neil, Jr., Newton Mandy Otero, Jersey City John Paterson, Lake Hiawatha Stephen Potts, Pompton Lakes Chris Quinn, Somerset Paul Reynolds, Summit George Shivery, Jr., Gibbstown Henry Uiga, West Caldwell Robert L. Viden, Jr., Glassboro Chris Wyman, Highland Lakes If you have specific complaints, I suggest tracking down your Regional Vice President and explain your concerns. There job is to represent your interests at the Board Meetings.

Saw this one on gunbroker. It's in NJ. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =181007564

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Jury Nullification.

One very effective way to reduce recoil with an 1100 is to cast (or machine) a lead cylinder and put it at the front end of the mag tube. Then put some lead in the butt stock to keep the gun balanced. It makes a big difference. They sell cap weights, but a lead weight is a lot cheaper. You can also shoot lighter loads.

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Sending you a PM.

The statutes and administrative code are not new. I think Genewarper111 is merely pointing out a possible (maybe even a likely) outcome. I would be interested to know if anyone knows of anyone that is under 21 that has been denied ammunition merely because it could be used in a handgun. No sense getting all riled up unless we have some examples. One thing that is clear, though. Retailers of ammunition record everything that can be used in a handgun because of the administrative code, not the statutes. This is because, the AC requires it and the retailer could lose his license if he does not comply with the AC. After learning about this, I submitted a Petition for Rules Change to eliminate all recording of ammunition, except for dum-dum and hollow-nose ammo. These are the only two types of ammo required by statute to be recorded when sold. We'll see what happens. They have 60 days to approve, deny or refer for further study. If they refer, they have another 90 days to approve or deny. I submitted the petition about a week ago. If anyone is wondering why I didn't petition for all of the recording to be halted, it is because that would require a change to the statutes. I took it as far as I could without having to change the law.

You can call the NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit and tell them what happened. They will either call the person directly or they might ask you to go back to the PD and tell the person to either give you the proper number of permit applications or call him to tell him why while you are standing there. The guy I last talked to was rather annoyed that the PD was limiting the number of permits and was clear that they had no authority to do so. In addition, he told me that they sent a letter to every PD in NJ telling them that they could not limit the number of permits when OGAM first was passed. (609) 882-2000 ext 6619 http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/divorg/inve ... -unit.html I call them on occasion. Although they answer the phone like they are about to rip your head off, they are actually quite helpful.

I found this website that is very helpful: http://fija.org/ Scroll down to the "Juror's Guide." #2 and #4 are pretty good. Read #4 first -- it's shorter. I'm in the process of watching their videos here: http://fija.org/document-library/videos ... ut-juries/ Boring... but very thorough and professionally done. Good luck.

I don't have a problem with any of that, as long as the judge is giving good guidance. 90% of the time, that will be the case. The other 10% is when the judge makes a mistake, or when the law itself is unjust, or when there are mandatory sentencing requirements that don't fit the crime (think 2 1/2 years for a bb gun). That's when a jury can assert their right to disregard the instructions from the judge and vote according to conscience. My point is that the jurors are told that they must follow the instructions of the judge, whether they agree or not. This is not true. And, in my case, the jury questionnaire was specifically designed to filter out potential jurors who knew that. If that is what is happening, then some people are not getting fair trials (think Joseph Pelleteri). Some places have figured this out. Consider the Maryland Constitution, Declaration of Rights, Article 23: In other words, in Maryland, the jury can acquit if they don't like the law, if they don't like the sentencing requirements, or they don't believe the facts hold up. But if the jury convicts when the facts don't hold up, the judge can overturn the conviction. I think that's exactly how it should be, and the intent behind the 6th Amendment. I don't see anything in there about the jury being limited to only judging the facts and if they are, I don't see how they can maintain impartiality. The great thing about this is that no laws need to change in order to correct the situation. We only need to act accordingly when we serve as jurors.

Good point..however there ARE certain reasonable assumptins that can be made. #1 The fact that the Male had his arm wrapped around the neck of the female was an indication she was being held. #2 The Man was armed with a Knife #3 The woman had blood all over her arm on the side that the male had the knife and what appeared to eb a wound in her shoulder. Chinese Police have a pretty rough reputation when it comes to hostage takers, there are a number of other videos out there with similar incidents and outcomes. Barring any other information than wha can be surmised by the film itself it LOOKS like a good shoot. You can see him actually stab her at one point.

I found this article. It is the best one I have read so far on the subject. http://www.constitution.org/2ll/2ndschol/131jur.pdf

Bob: Kind of an unfair advantage - not being informed of Jury Nullification and what it is, but to answer the question posed, yes the judge is superior. Maybe superior is not a good choice of words, but the judge does have the last word. Remember, whatever the jury decides, the judge has the right to set aside the verdict. Adios, Pizza Bob I have been reading about that also. It's called judgment notwithstanding the verdict, or judgment non obstante veredicto (JNOV) or motion for judgment as a matter of law (JAMOL). It seems that it is often submitted, but very rarely approved, and a couple of sources I read said it can't be use to overturn an acquittal. I don't know how accurate that is though, but, I am still reading. Interesting stuff.

That's what bothered me about the whole thing. I had never heard of Jury Nullification, had no idea of the concept. What rang the alarm bells for me was the oath to support the US and NJ Constitutions, then the subsequent warning that we had to rule according to the judges instructions. What if the judge gives instructions that are contradictory to my understanding of the Constitution? What if the crime in question is clearly at odds with, well let's say, the Second Amendment? My oath must take priority. There is no law that says a juror must rule one way or another based on any instructions from anyone, including the judge. That's what being tried by a jury of your peers is all about. The thing that bothers me the most is that there were about 20 jurors that went in and out of that jury box during jury selection. Not one of them even asked asked about question 17. They just accepted it -- or maybe some knew about Jury Nullification and purposely didn't ask? At any rate, it answers a lot of questions about how NJ's laws got so convoluted. There's no check on unjust laws from the jury.

Interesting.

Mercer County Petit Juror.

Troubling Jury Duty Experience Have you ever heard the phrase,

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