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  1. for those that were curious about the end result.....I took the well meaning advice of those here.. crossed into free America today and found what I was after

    in a walmart in stroudsburg,pa...a daisy model 880, shoots 800fps....the price was 20 less than dicks in nj...so I bought 2, plus ammo............

    they had two isles of pistols,and rifles  one side was real guns from shotgun to hp rifles, some pistols...woman behind the counter said they were overstocked but low on ammo...the end .


  2. the board of ed in my town(marlboro) voted the other night to have armed patrols in all the schools in town during school hours starting in january..with the blessing of the mayor and the pd..

    they reason the cost is out wieghed by the safety gained.. kinda like" if it saves one life" type deal........


  3. I had a $200.blowback grn gas that only shot 50 rds before needing more gas..recently I bought a c02 1911 non-bb version from airsplat shoots @ 400 fps..it shoots over 100 rds per cartridge..... gun was less than $60..c02 was .50ct a cylnder...couldnt be happier....for less than a $100 I got 2000k bb's, gun, and fuel..


  4. I've been looking to get a pelet rifle myself for rats in the barn...So,.for giggles I looked online at walmart in Pa. to compare a model that is avaialable at dicks,

    here's what I found.....walmart in pa.; Daisy 880 . $44. no back ground check pay the girl at the register..time in store 10 minutes?.....Dicks in jersey; $69. plus 15 for the BG check..BG check can take 2 hours upto 3 days .. with assorted ammo in pa. total is $62.....same gun/ammo in nj is..$120 total before tax/fees...


  5. I've ordered from both home centers for several clients..never dissappointed..if it's in stock .the delivery/,install was painless..never more than 3-day wait...more than once they removed the front door (on apartments) to avoid possible damage..they used carry straps not hand trux...took the old unit and garbage with them...


  6. after reading it , my take is that 1) changes 2 yr valid before renewal to 5 yr

    2) eliminates justifiable need,3 references and judge approval

    3) if you qualify for the fid or p2p you qualify for carry permit along with NRA safety cert or similiar

    4) eliminates public safety concern as excuse to deny

    5) eliminate noting type and serial # of gun to be carried

    much like the app for fid/p2p it's still up to the cleo to approve (refer to #3)

    renewal would not require re-certification or approval providing you have not done something to revoke it..it said something like

    person having a CP would be deemed qualified and need not provide info as per the intial app....


  7. Hi Tom,

    Attached is a scanned copy of "emplyment verification form" req'd by Marlboro PD.

    I dont have a copy of the reference form though.

     

    All together Marlboro PD requires the following:

    1. SP-066

    2. SP-033

    3. 2 references (2 forms sent off to those individuals

    4. Employment verification (for m sent out to employer

    5. MPD application form (has to be filled out onsite).

     

     

    Hope this helps.

    -Mpost-3785-0-73828500-1319827334_thumb.jpg

    whats the MPD application form ?


  8. can someone explain it in simple terms...the bill uses the word "entitled" to carry concealed in and pursuant to the state in which the person resides ..

    technically nj residents are not "entitled" to carry concealed, right? I'm just not seeing how this would allow a nj resident to ccw with a Fla. permit when in nj it's impossible to get a permit...in nj, ccw is a priviledge not an entitlement..know what I mean....

    sec.926d para 2 of the bill..My link


  9. what happened to the topic i started...17 on topic replies then it turned to 25 machine gun posts.....maybe the mods can delete

    my original and corresponding posts and change the topic title due to lack of interest..I thought the group would be interested in a case where

    carrying outside the home and how the 2A would apply, a case that has the best chance to date of being heard by scotus....nothing wrong with the MG convo but it should have been a different thread..


  10. Reading this, I don't know if it is the case we want. The guy didn't apply for a permit. Had he applied, and been denied for no reason other than "you didn't provide us good enough reason", it would pprobably be a good case to apply due process to as I'm certain you oculd dig up someone who was arguably demographically the same except fo their connections who was approved.

    in my view it's the argument in itself thats being made in this case.."whether or not carrying outside the home

    is protected by the 2A"(with or w/o a permit)..which could mean nj would have to remove the justifiable need requirement...maybe i'm looking at something that is'nt there.....we need scotus to say "to bear" means "to carry" in public not just restricted in the home...

    it's like why in most states do they consider carry a 2A right while nj feels that self defense ends at the thresold of our home.....


  11. i believe the woman in question using m&m won her case to keep her permit..the state was Washington (i think)..

    the only ones allowed to use m&m in nj, are only the most chronically ill or have some dibilitating condition and probably dont posses the strength or health to safely use a firearm much less the strength or ability to go through the process of buying one...being as how this is jersey and mary jane is illegal,,my guess is the pd would deny an applicant..they could easily amend the mental health form to include m&m in the background check... users are required to be registered with the state and will be issued I.D cards...

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