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  1. I had pierced primers on my starting load with clays in 9mm. I would not recommend it at all for 9. Supposed to be great for 45 but I haven't loaded any yet. I have 1.9 jars of clays that I would trade for an equal amount of 231 or hp38. Only loaded up 100 or so 9mm with it.

     

    What kind of bullets were you using?  I had it at the starting load and it wouldn't even lock the slide back on the last round.  

     

    I made a mistake in my original post.  I have 124gr 9mm bullets, not 115.  


  2. Correction it's once a month and here are the details.  Though this past one may have been last till next year.

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    The 3 Gun will require the shooter to engage both steel and paper targets at varying distances (10 - 100 yards) using a long gun, shotgun, and handgun. Shooter MUST carry all ammo on their person. * If you are NOT a member.....Entr​​​​​y to this event closes at 8:30am sharp! If you are not at the range by the 8:45am safety brief you cannot shoot this event. No exceptions!

  3. . Many people stay away from the big match because they feel intimidated shooting with people that have shot steel for years and also with people that actually travel and compete on a national level. It's hard to have fun and feel good about yourself if you are a new shooter shooting against people that have ranked nationally in steel. This was a good compromise so we agreed to direct a match that was taken down a few notches. Most of us still shoot the first Sunday match also. 

     

     

    The crowd is really friendly though.  I don't care how much better the people in my squad are I care if I can get along with them.  I don't like attitudes and arrogance but I've never encountered

    that at CJ.  Personally I prefer to shoot with people much better than me.  You can ask questions, watch, and learn a lot.  From my experience everyone is willing to help out and answer questions.


  4. I gotta ask, where did you manage to find Clays? I'm down to my last two pounds.

     

    Also, if you have any trouble finding the other powders, I have two pounds of Titegroup that I won't be using.

     

    I may just buy that off you.  I bought this Clays right before the scare.  And then I went into a bit

    of a reloading retreat where I didn't touch my press for 8 months or so.  

     

    On the flipside are Titegroup, 231, N320 good for 45?  


  5. You could probably get into it for fairly cheap, around 100 bucks if you buy the right stuff.

     

    I have a tripod that folds up in a little 14" bag, costs under 20 bucks.

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Chrony-F-1-Chronograph-green/dp/B001BR3364/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382749166&sr=8-1&keywords=chronograph

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Ravelli-APLT2-Weight-Aluminum-Tripod/dp/B004ZGN6MY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382749230&sr=8-1&keywords=tripod

     

    For some reason I thought it was some special tripod.  If a photo tripod works I got that covered.  Thanks.  


  6. Hey guys.  I started looking into chronos and all the pictures I see they are mounted to tripods or on a large table.

     

    I only have access to indoor ranges and Ft. Dix where you really can't shoot that far behind your table.  Plus I'd

    really rather not have to invest in a tripod and carry all that gear just to test out my rounds.

     

    Do they make some type of micro/mini chrono that doesn't take up too much space that maybe could fit on a booth

    table in an indoor range?  

     

     


  7. for 45acp using winchester primers, 200gr LSWC 16lb spring;

    3.6-4.0 plinking load

    4.3 USPSA major  (made 173-175pf out of a STI Trojan 5 inch)

    I never used it for 9mm (use n320, titegroup, and HS-6)

     

    Is it not a good powder for 9mm?  I like to only have one powder on my bench and prefer to use it across multiple calibers if I can.

    Just to keep it simple.  

     

    Good to know I am probably making major.


  8. Back on topic,

     

    I prefer 124s over 147s for nine. I also prefer 165s over 180s or 200s in .40. I also prefer 200s over 230s for .45. (185s if I could get them to reliably feed)

     

    This is just my preference as I like a snappier feeling gun instead of a slower feeling one. With either heavy or light bullets, I can not pull the trigger any faster. The gun does seem to cycle slower, to me, with the heavier bullets. That is just my perception of it though.

     

    The 45 255s that someone introduced me to were really slow cycling and did slow down the splits that I could shoot! They were the only heads that actually made a difference and were too heavy for me. You can watch them all the way to the target though.

     

    Brian

     

    Yeah I will not do 250s again.  And 230s appear to kick a little harder than I would prefer.  I don't know what it is but the 200s have this sweet spot where they

    are soft in recoil and they feel "quick".  It could all be in my head, but I have found 200s to be the best so far.  My only concern is I'm not making power factor

    for major and I don't have a chrono.  


  9. Just trying to get a feel for what you guys using clays are loading for 45acp and 9mm.

     

    Right now I am at 3.7ish gr for 115 RN 9mm copper plated Berry's bullets.  I started at

    3.4 and it would not lock the slide back on the last round on a M&P9.  So I have bumped

    it up to 3.7.  Going to test it tomorrow hopefully.

     

    For 45acp Flat point lead and Copper plated I'm using around 4.4ish gr and this does

    lock the slide back on my 1911 and feels moderate.  

     

    I'm OK with the 45 load, although I don't know if it's making major power factor (more of

    a steel round anyways).  

     

    But the 9 I'm trying to get dialed in and I do want to make at least minor power factor.  

    Any load data for reference?


  10.  

    Looks to me like you are just bringing the 1911 back to Browning's spec.  Kind of like reinventing the wheel.

     

    Wolff lists 14# for 9mm and 19# for 40 so I'd say your recommendations are pretty light and leave it at that.

     

    Those who think heavier springs will permit them to shoot hot loads are another story I'd be willing to discuss at a different time.

     

    You apparently are unaware that the fit of the slide and barrel to the frame (and other parts) have everything to do with accuracy therefore POA.  If the fit is sloppy the barrel, where the bullet comes from, will not return to the same postion in relation to the slide, where the sights are.  This is the difference between a $400 and $4000 1911.

     

     

    I don't think anyone is arguing what you're saying is wrong.  I'm sure it's accurate information.  I think the question here is

    the applicability.  To some people having a $4000 tolerance on their bushing to barrel fit will matter.  To guys like me who

    shoot USPSA/Steel it doesn't.  Doesn't matter to me if the gun I shoot does a 1 1/4" group at 25yds or 2".  Because I know

    I"ll never shoot 1 1/4" under a time stage at 25 yards.  I never bench shoot and I don't do bullseye so it's not applicable.  

    Doesn't mean I don't want an accurate gun.  Just means I don't think a couple thou of an inch tighter tolerance is even 

    worth talking about.  But that's just me. 

     

    As to the recoil spring almost every single competitive shooter is running a modified spring to suite their load, gun, etc.   I run

    a slightly lighter one in my Kimber since I load light.  I think you're dismissing the practical application of doing so.  I'm not

    trying to argue anything about the POA, accuracy, etc.  I'm sure many people know way more about that.  I'm just saying 

    there is a reason just about every competitive shooter experimenting with different reloads is doing it.  In reality and application

    it has proven to increase performance.  


  11. I didn't intend a scientific approach to the matter. The reloads we make probably do have a huge perceptive quality to them whether they are founded in actual science, math, etc. I just wanted to see if anyone actually experienced softer shooting rounds (ie ones that are easier to shoot and shoot fast/accurate) as they used heavier bullet weights. From what I gather is the general consensus is no.

     

    I'm actually leaning toward trying some ultra light bullets like 95gr 9mm and 180gr 45acp. My feeling is they will feel very light. May make for a great steel round.


  12. Do not use Kroil or any other penetrating agents (like WD-40) on firearms. Especially firearms you may depend on to save your life. Penetrating agents can seep into cartridges and deaden primers and powder giving you a click when you really need a bang.

     

    There are plenty of quality cleaning products that don't have this side effect to choose from.

     

    Well you gotta wipe it off.  Otherwise your gun will smell up the entire range.  

     

    It's more for loosening up parts if they are stuck.  Or getting rid of debris, grim,

    that is really on parts.  But ultimately you have to wipe it all off.  

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