Steve H

Raydee, it's holding up great, still rock solid. The pics are about the best I can do as far as explaining how to do it. Basically, remove the rear of the stock by removing the hinge pin bolt, then just drill through the stock from the front side, just about where you see the pin installed in my pics. Then drive the pin thru. As far as using a removable screw or bolt, I wouldn't try it but can't comment on it's legality. I think even what I did might be questionable, since technically it's not a blind pin since the stock can be removed and the other side of the pin could be accessed. It's only a $140 stock, and you might be able to get just the rear folding portion of it for much less, so if you ever move or if hell ever freezes over in NJ and this stock becomes legal in the folding version, just replace the back part of it with a new one. My opinion.

OK, so ironically the info is listed in the sticky thread just above this topic in this forum, but looks to me like both [ellet long gun and pellet pistols (BB's are .177 pellets, no?) are legal for a NJ resident to buy out of state with out a p2p. 3. Blackpowder and pellet handgun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = only a P2P and Photo ID required ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a P2P with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = no requirement ........(4) Out-of-state resident = no requirement 4. Blackpowder and pellet long gun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = only a FPID, COE and Photo ID required ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = no requirement ........(4) Out-of-state resident = no requirement

I'm a noob to these forums, but I am certain that I read that in regard to a BB/Pellet handgun purchase, out of state to a NJ resident, there is no requirement for P2P. Let me see if I can go search up the info.

Very cool, thanks!

Two questions: Gun #1 - Purchased by NJ resident brand new in 1967 in PA. From what I have read, out of state purchases were legal up until 1968 when the GCA law went into effect, even though NJ passed the laws requiring permits in 1966. Is this true? Would I have any problem buying this gun from original owner with a good P2P? Dont want to cause any problems for current owner. Gun #2 - Left to someone by a lifelong friend and hunting partner who died about 11 years ago. Proof marks on pistol date it to 1984. I dont think there was a will, but there was and is absolutely no question as to the intentions of the deceased as to where this pistol was intended to go. This person now wants to give the gun to me. There is no paperwork since the deceased lived in PA and the gun was physically handed over to current owner when the person died. Would I have a problem acquiring this gun with a good P2P? Dont want to make any waves for the current owners. Thanks!

1. Application type (FID/permit w/ existing FID). Wife - New FID and three P2P's 2. Police Department where you applied. Little Egg Harbor 3. Name of the person you dealt with at the PD. Detective Malega 4. Time taken to issue FID and/or permit. 118 days 5. Documents required by the PD (aside from the standard application and the mental health release form). Nothing non-standard. 6. Notes - anything pertaining to the application process (unforeseen difficulties, chief of police calling your home, you hiring an attorney, etc.). Wife applied for her initial FID and three P2P's same time I did (Jan 13th) in the above post. She did not get fingerprinted until April 24th. Detective Malega had her FID and P2P's completed with mine yesterday, May 10th. Considering she did not get printed until 4/24 and had FID in hand 5/10 not too bad.

1. Application type (FID/permit w/ existing FID). Three P2P's with existing FID 2. Police Department where you applied. Little Egg Harbor 3. Name of the person you dealt with at the PD. Detective Malega 4. Time taken to issue FID and/or permit. 118 days 5. Documents required by the PD (aside from the standard application and the mental health release form). Nothing non-standard. 6. Notes - anything pertaining to the application process (unforeseen difficulties, chief of police calling your home, you hiring an attorney, etc.). This was my second experience with the application process. Was quoted 12-14 weeks. At week 14 I started calling since none of my reference letters had gone out. Detective Malega is extremely helpful and friendly and is simply overwhelmed in my opinion. Once the permits were done he volunteered to deliver them to me at my home on his time since my 90 minute commute does not allow me to be home when the desk is open. I called about twice a week once I hit about 14 weeks and never got a bad attitude or what I felt was BS, they are just backlogged. The wait time sucks, but what can you do.

Thank you. Very very sad. If this person was in NJ, I'm assuming that the feed tube would have to be pinned or permanently modified in a way to limit the mag to 15 shorts, is that right?

Older friend of mine has a Winchester model 290 that they have had since new, bought in the late 60's or early 70's. It's a semi auto with a tube feed, that will hold 17 .22LR rounds. Probably about 25 shorts. I'm assuming this would be illegal for him to own in NJ, but I was thinking about the particular circumstances... if it was legally purchased in NJ in lets say 1972, then how does the law apply to it now? Same rules? Any grandfathering? The receiver is marked to accept 22S, L and LR. Thanks.

I just got an Archangel Nomad conversion for the 10-22 with the reduced capacity 10rd clip. Upon disassembly (I dont truly own something until I take it apart) it's just the 25rd clip with a plastic limiter slipped up in the spring. I plan on trimming mine down so it will take 15 rounds. I can post pics tomorrow if interested. You'll still have a full 25rd sized clip but it will only hold 15. Looks like this:

Took it out in the workshop this morning and thought about it. Decided the best way would be to use a 1/8" roll pin to disable the release button. Came out pretty good, and the button doesnt move a millimeter, rock solid. Might even be reversable if I ever get out of NJ, as long as I didn't clobber the spring with the drill. Here she is.

That's the stock. Yeah, I use JB weld all the time, not a bad idea. I think I can also drill down thru the hinge and throw some pins thru it, I have a press. The worst part is that the stock, when folded, has a nice storage compartment that will be rendered inaccessable when the thing is neutered. Very sad. Thanks for the suggestions.

I've got a Ruger 10/22 and an Archangel Nomad (Marauder) HK G36 style stock for it. Very familiar with all the gotchas, I think. I did not use the flash supressor on the barrel, instead opting for the dummy suppressor (just a solid plastic sleeve over the barrel). The only two cardinal sins it still has are it's pistol grip and folding stock. Pistol grip has to stay so stock needs to be locked open. The stock is not metal so I can't weld it. Any ideas on the best way to lock it open for our wonderful state? Would epoxy applied to the joint and hinge be considered permanant for a composite stock? Thanks!

My father and I are in interested in checking out this range and perhaps joining. We don't know anyone in the club, how does the sponsor member requirement work?

1. FID application, 1 Permit w/ initial FID 2. Little Egg Harbor NJ PD 3. Current contact: Detective Malega (pleasant to deal with when I did speak with him) 4. Time taken to issue the FID: 14 Weeks (clerk said 14 weeks at time of application) 5. Additional documents required by the PD: Nothing Non-standard. 6. Notes: None, although it took a long time in my opinion, PD was polite and got the FID and permit no problem.