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  1. 6 hours ago, LeaveNJ said:

    Here’s the deal.  The restrictions are not reasonable.  There is no consistency between counties.  It’s a total cluster.  Legal challenges are in the works regarding these restrictions.  Any reasonable court will overturn this BS.  You can go ahead and pull your app, deny the restrictions, etc, but I’ll get mine.  Several months down the road, this will all be worked out.  Meanwhile, you’ll still be holding your app in your hand, your qualifications will expire in six months, and you’ll be back to square one.  An appeals court will order the AG to issue an amendment to drop the car carry restriction, and current permit holders will be happy campers.  

    Agree, I thought about it too...Unfortunately when we submitted our apps we had no way of predicting what each judge would do...No way i am starting from scratch now, there it as least some value in having the permit even with restrictions. The only restriction which impacts me in any (material) way is the driving one. That is so outrageous it will never hold up. So what happens then, best case we do not have to do anything, the restriction becomes null and void - period. Worst case we have to go through some administrative BS (and maybe even get a lawyer) to have our permits "upgraded"....

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  2. 1 minute ago, g17owner said:

    It's unfair to call it an "issue". Its a blatant violation of constitutional rights and an even more blatant attempt to poop on the Supreme Court ruling. 

    Of course, I think every know that...I want to know where we are with this. Now that it is with the Judge I'm going to call Nappens office tomorrow to find out, they are on retainer to handle quick Q&A from members of ANJRPC.


  3. I just got the call this afternoon from those fantastic Ladies working the customer facing office in the Firearms Department at Berkeley Township in Ocean...They sent my Permit Application over to the Judge today (I would assume bundled with apps from other gun owners).

    I couldn't be happier with the Job they did in both support and time frame. I dropped my application off 8/5, was printed on 8/10. So about 6 weeks soup to nuts...Given what is going on with the flood of new permits based on the SC ruling, I'm very happy with the service they provided.

    Mixed emotions now, happy the first phase is over but now the tough part. I hope Nappen and Dan say something about progress on the "no carry in car issue". On 9/11 at a seminar Nappen gave (I wasn't there) a friend reported Nappen was very, very, confident we would win over on this issue with an estimate of 3 week. Hope so!


  4. 5 hours ago, LeaveNJ said:

    I hope everyone has sent a donation to ANJRPC, and has signed up for Texas Law Shield.  They are fighting the good fight for us and it would be helpful if everyone could throw a few bucks their way to keep the attorneys funded.  

    I signed up for LawShield last week, at $130 a year I just couldn't resist...But are you implying that LawShield is also participating in NJ to get rid of these carry-restrictions (I didn't think they get involved in such things)?

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  5. 49 minutes ago, Lucky Lefty said:

    Update from Berkeley Township PD

    As of yesterday, 4 permits have been returned, approved, to the pd from ocean county superior court.

    These are the first 4 permits to be issued out of Berkeley Township, and it was confirmed that each of the 4 permits do have the attached list of 12 orders that include the "cannot carry in or on any motor vehicle" restriction.

    That is unfortunate, we have many "dots" connected now to show that this will be applied to everyone (not that we really thought differently).


  6. 7 hours ago, COD said:

    Hi all, I've been lurking here for a bit absorbing all the great info on NJ Gun Forums. I'm in Monmouth county and just turned in my application last week. A few minutes ago I found this on the CNJFO facebook page basically saying that the prosecutor is contacting applicants to agree to certain restrictions before meeting with the judge. 

     

    BREAKING! MONMOUTH CO. CCW APPLICANTS IN A JAM!
    ANJRPC LAWYER DAN SCHMUTTER ADVISES TO LAWYER-UP!

    https://www.facebook.com/371903659656377/posts/pfbid0PWWqa44ZUubFByx71XagqTfftFZQpYyvBkW3k1cbFfrjVNu7WZNESnhwyFtxwm3xl

     

    Utterly mind-boggling...I am glad Dan gave Monmouth gun owners a heads up and some advise, but I'd like to hear more about what the ANJRPC Strikeforce is doing to fight this in court. Yep, gun owners will need to lawyer up in some counties, but I'd like to see the full force of ANJRPC on this NOW!

     


  7. 8 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said:

    You can listen to the show and interpret it yourself of course, but the gist of it was that a judge apparently objected to someone's overall driving record (I guess there were several infractions on it), because (the judge reasoned) it made the applicant seem like someone who didn't obey the law. As Anthony pointed out, MV infractions aren't even under the criminal code. So, that is unlikely to stand up on an appeal. It shows you that some of these judges are getting "creative" in their denials though.  :facepalm:

    Agree, they are totally out of control...Thanks for your comments.


  8. 3 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said:

    BTW, @gunforhire (Anthony Colandro) has some interesting info on his most recent show, posted here: The Gun For Hire Radio Broadcast: Episode 591 - Best Gun Range NYC and NJ Area | Gun Range Near Me - for those who don't know (lots of new members here!), Anthony is the owner of Gun for Hire, a commercial range in North Jersey, but he's also on the executive board of ANJRPC, NJ's NRA state affiliate. It certainly sounds like ANJRPC is well aware of what's happening - in particular, he just happened to cite problems in specific towns (like Bayonne & Maplewood) and counties (like Middlesex, Gloucester, Sussex, Bergen) that are clearly putting up stumbling blocks. He was not providing a complete list mind you, just highlighting a few areas of trouble. Clearly, ANJRPC is going to be putting more detailed info out soon. 

    Interestingly, based on a few cases where CCW permits were denied for seemingly capricious reasons (prior traffic violations, currently going through a divorce, etc.), he had a very specific recommendation:  if you've got ANYTHING in your background - a domestic disturbance from years back where cops were called (even if there was no restraining order) - he's actually recommending that you hold off on applying for your permit - or even PULL your application if it's in - until some of these cases are overturned. You're adults, you can listen to that part and judge for yourselves - it starts shortly after the 34-minute mark (though I do recommend you just give a listen to the full show).    

    Traffic violation? Do you mean one that a person never paid, or is disputing, or...? I would image that lots of people have had traffic violations through the years.


  9. 15 minutes ago, joeg said:

    I have a few questions about filling out the CCW form.  I appreciate your help!

    - Where do we find the municipal code - is that different than the ORI number? Call the clerks in the firearms department, they can tell you...(Because I called the tax office and they gave me the wrong one, luckily I checked with the firearms depart at the PD). 

    - Can we use relatives as references? NO

    -Do we need a business phone number for the reference? Either one is fine as long as they can be in touch...My PD only called people either early in morning or 10:30 at night cause the Cop was working night shift who does this. So home might be the best way.

    - Can we use a cell phone instead of the home phone? Of course as long as you use it at home too, but see above.

    - Do the references sign all three copies of the forms? YES unfortunately it is a PITA.

     

    Thanks

    See above.

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  10. I give up, you are blaming this mess, spawn from 100 years of tyranny, on clerks and their immediate Supervisors at the very bottom of the responsibility/power chain which goes all the way up to the AG, Legislators, and Judges...Makes no sense to me but feel free to go down to the PD's that you feel are not doing their job and offer them some process suggestions. Let me know what you accomplish.

    You're just complaining here about the wrong people, so go visit them with your laundry list of complaints which you believe the clerks have some control over. Good Luck!

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  11. Hum, not really, this is going to need some horsepower from the top like the AG and the legislators, and the only way that will happen is with attorneys either convincing them with argument before and if needed via lawsuit...The people who are administering our stuff in the PDs are just following the law...Additionally, on-line tools to facilitate entering our info and tracking it would be nice, but that will take resources and time to develop, neither of which the administrators we interface withhave any control over.

    The nice Ladies in my PD don't have control over identigo being a fingerprint monopoly (requiring up to 3 weeks sometimes to get an appointment and up to 2 more weeks to provide it to PDs). They have no power over what the judge does or how long the judge takes to do it, or getting rid of the judge part altogether, they have no control over how long Sarge and chiefy take to sign off, or why we need any references at all which all need to get called, etc., etc.

    You are barking up the wrong tree as the saying goes.


  12. 22 minutes ago, samiam said:

    A few weeks may or may not matter to each of us, individually. But we very much need to keep poliite pressure on the people processing these applications to make sure that they will, in turn, pressure their bosses, and any other state functionaries that they come in contact with, to fix the damned process. That includes the legislature removing justiiable need and the judges' role from the statute and the process. Is that 100% fair to the staff doing the processing? Maybe not, but, beyond legal action that will almost certainly grind for months, or possibly years, it is wthat we have at our disposal. You or I didn't create this system or have any real voice in its implementation, and it's the job of those staff members to make it work. 

    Yikes! I can only speak about the staffers at Berkley, they are working very, very, hard...And I am sorry, I can't agree with you that the process lies on them to fix...You know they have no control over it... I am sure they are reporting to bossed about the situation, but it is up to the bosses all the way up to the NJ-AG, along with us doing our part with by contacting officials and making DONATIONs to ANJRPC/2A lawyers, and the lawyers like Nappen to fix it....My goodness, I am not going to blame the people on the bottom of this mega- hierarchy for a 100+ years of neglect on this matter in NJ.


  13. 1 hour ago, Shortfuse said:

    Day 50 I called Berkley Township PD this morning My file is still sitting in a stack waiting for the Chiefs signature was told the same thing last Friday. Kim said I'm probably looking at another week She said there's over 100 Applications. She has not received any info from the Court on any of the Apps already sent in. ZERO PERMITS ISSUED SO FAR IN BERKLEY

    I believe we are in the same boat...First I will say, Kim, Marcy, all the people in the customer facing room for firearms are doing a fantastic job given the situation. Always friendly, always helpful in things they can control...

    My 3 witnesses were all called as of 8/31. I was assuming a week each for the Sargent and Chief to sign off, and when someone posted a batch went out on 9/12 I was wondering why I didn't get my call. So I called the other day. They are very overwhelmed.

    And this isn't going to get any better any time soon so I do sympathies with those folks in the "front desk"...

    The fix is to drop the entire judge sign-off, with no more just.-need there is no need for a judge X-cases where PD doesn't approve permit and gun owner wants a hearing. This will give extra time for the PDs WHILE Lowering the overall start/finish time by some months.

    If I don't hear by 10/5 (2 months since I dropped off my app) I'll call PD again, but overall,  a few weeks isn't going to matter and I hope by time the judge gets to ours the car-carry restriction nonsense is no more...The way it looks, the judge is going to be taking at least 2 months more likely 3+ for their interval.

    C.A.

     


  14. 5 minutes ago, 2ARipper said:

    So if an individual received a carry permit WITHOUT restrictions early on and it appears that Ocean County is issuing with restrictions will previously permitted people have their status changed?  What is the recourse if you are granted with restrictions which almost negate the issue of the ccw?   What is actually driving the restrictions?  Backdoor collusion between prosecutors and AG than directing a judge?

    Thanks

    I don't think the process is known at this point...Best case, Nappin and co. strike a deal where all permits default to Non restricted (or at least non restricted for car carry)...Worst case, have to hire your own lawyer to get it changed, or apply for a new carry permit. i don't know.

    I think the problem is individual judge ideology, not a conspiracy else they would all be doing the same thing. Just MO.


  15. 51 minutes ago, Rambo said:

    I just saw another guy in Ocean County got his PTC yesterday with the 12 Court Ordered Restrictions. It was posted on FB Group.It was dated Sept 6th.

    I just jumped over there to take a loki too. Totally unacceptable, well both Dan in emails and Nappin in his Sunday "sermon" this week said they are hot on the car carry issue, I am glad at this point mine hasn't made it to the OC judge just yet.

    I also read somewhere (maybe even here - lol) that OC has only issued 5 permits post SC ruling.

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  16. 1 minute ago, Lucky Lefty said:

    Speaking if which, never carry your gun in a gun case or factory case.

    Just seeing a gun case is probable cause to search your vehicle.

    Something I learned yesterday from Mr Nappen. Just passing it along

    Guns always in the trunk...But I do have my steel target stand in the car as they will not fit in trunk, guess I should cover them with a blanket.


  17. On 9/12/2022 at 6:28 PM, nooch450 said:

    How are the consequences for violating NJ gun law not considered cruel and unusual punishments? A punishment prohibited by the 8th amendment to the US constitution.

    Think about this, someone with no criminal history who is eligible to own and purchase firearms could accidentally drop a hollow point .22lr in their truck bed, trunk, or between their seat not even realizing they did so. They are pulled over on their way home for a minor traffic violation and wind up being searched for some reason. All of a sudden, boom they are charged with "A Fourth Degree Felony Charge Punishable by 18 Months in Prison"

    They loose their job, their house, their 2a rights in the entire country, they are now convicted felon for their entire life!!! Their entire life is ruined. All over something that they didn't even mean to do... All over something that is protected by their constitutional rights.

    NJ gun law needs to completely dismantled!!!!

     

     

    Yep, never voluntarily comply to a car/trunk search...One gives up important rights if one does so.


  18. A friend on another Forum went to the Nappen seminar yesterday. He reported that Nappen is hot on the carry in car issue and Nappen expects it to be resolved in 2 week given it is a 2A and also a Civil Rights violation...I don't have anymore details as I was not at the seminar, but if someone else was there they can weigh in...Really great news but we pretty much new it wouldn't stand very long given it is so crazy.

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