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  1. The hole will be on the bottom -- shouldn't effect your fire rating at all

     

    If you are that concerned you could get Firestop at your local home improvement store -- it's in a caulk tube and used to seal holes in structures where wire or pipes travel from 1 floor to another to slow the spread of fire

     

    Where is your safe going to be? 1st floor, second floor, Basement?  On a wooden floor or on a concrete slab?

     

    On a concrete slab I wouldn't worry about it at all --

     

    The water damage will probably be worse anyway -- as the safe falls thru the 1st floor into the basement which is filled with water from the fire dept putting out the fire -- then the safe sits there for weeks

     

    There just guns,  they are replaceable

     

    The safe will be in the basement on a wood floor which is cemented to the concrete floor. It is in a small alcove so it is surrounded on almost 3 sides by drywall over concrete block.

     

    I found a fireblock caulk on Amazon which seems like exactly what I need. Thanks for the info.

     

    "NSi Fireblock136 fire-blocking caulk is a single component, non-combustible material for residential applications. Colored red for easy inspection, fireblock136 creates an effective barrier against flames, smoke, and toxic gasses and has superior adhesion and gunnability. Fireblock136 is for use in annular spaces around wires, pipes, ducts, vents and other penetrating items at ceiling and floor openings; and room to room in wood and steel frame constructions. It restores the integrity of fireblocks in one and two family construction. Exceeds A5TM-E136 standards for fireblocking residential requirements prescribed by all major-model building codes, and also meets or exceeds requirements of UBC, BOCA, SBC, IRC, NYS and MA codes. Meets UL 1479/ ASTM-E136 standards. 10.3-ounces caulk tube. Non-combustible for residential applications."


  2. I read that after 25 years of decline gun crimes are on the rise. This creates a temporarily high starting point for them. If the spike was an anomaly or simply due to false reporting or just natural variation, a downward trend in crime will inevitably follow these orders and they'll say, "see, crime went down 0.5%. Every life saved is precious."

     

    According to the FBI latest stats at: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls in 2012 there was an increase in murders by firearm but in 2013 it dropped below the prior 2011 number so the trend still down:

     

    2011 12,795

    2012 12,888

    2013 12,253

     

    My favorite stats are that knives killed more than 2 times the number of people killed by rifles and shotguns combined and hands and feet exceeded rifles and shotguns combined.

     

    And at the same time as crime is decreasing gun ownership as well as legal concealed carry has greatly increased.


  3. I would like to believe that, but after reading 'Blue Tent Sky' I would not bet the farm on it.

     

    I absolutely agree. It all makes an interesting discussion but nothing is for sure particularly in NJ. We see this in big cities with how the police are being treated. And this only deals with the criminal side. A good chance you would be civilly sued. But it still beats being dead.


  4. NJ is not bad on Castle Doctrine. Basically (very basically) if you are inside your house (not outside as others have said) and in fear of your life or another persons life and have no alternative you can use deadly force as long as you were not the aggressor and if you can safely warn the perpetrator you did. The applicable statutes are at:

     

    http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-2c/section-2c-3-6/

     

    The burden of proof is on the state to prove you are guilty.


  5. 'Pretty much' sounds pretty definite.

     

    Got any sources for this actually occurring in NJ other than conversations with the counter guy at the gun store?

     

    This is one of those vague areas in NJ law. Evan Nappen has discussed the possibility of this happening. We all need a test case to resolve the issue. Any volunteers  :laugh:

     

    Welcome to the forum. Lots of good information can be found here.


  6. 132,000 K-12 schools in the US.  according to this:  https://www.edreform.com/2012/04/k-12-facts/

     

    Wikipedia has a list of school shootings.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#21st_century

     

    This list on Wikipedia has been changed recently.  Before, it only listed shootings where someone intended to kill random students and listed 3 or 4 each year.  Now this list includes every gang related, drive by, student on student confrontation, accidental, parent on parent, and police shooting plus all shootings on college campuses.  I just went through this list from 2010 through 2014 and found 20 shootings that may be the type that everyone considers to be "school shootings".  But check out the link above for yourself and make your own decision.

     

    20 shootings over 5 years (2010 - 2014) = 4 shootings per year.

     

    4 shootings per year / 132,000 schools = 1 shooting for every 33,000 schools

     

    Which means that…each school should expect an "active shooter" event every 33,000 years. 

     

    My numbers are different than what I got 2 years ago but the data available is more muddied now.

     

    Very interesting stat!


  7. I never looked at the Skeletool CX as from the photo's it always looked big. It takes the other Leatherman bits which I have which gives it more capability (but something else for me to carry). I also have the Leatherman 1/4" bit driver extension but I am not going to carry that plus sockets. Not a bad set of tools at 5 oz. I have to go handle it to get a better feel for it.

     

    One very minor downside is that it has a locking blade (which should be good) but that means I can't take it into NYC. I have gotten used to having to change knives when I go to NYC with a slip joint knife so just another pain.

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  8. I am looking for a multi-tool that I can keep in my cargo pocket. They are already stuffed so I don't want anything too heavy or large.

     

    I already have a knife so I don't need any blades although I realize most if not all have one (or two or three). No need for a corkscrew, bottle openers, or scissors.

     

    I really want the pliers, wire cutter, a few small screwdrivers (both flat and philips), and if possible a 1/4" tool socket. I wouldn't mind a file but not a necessity.

     

    It is a shame no one makes a build your own tool with the basic frame where you could add your own tool selection.

     

    Any recommendations or am I asking for too little?

     

    btw: I already own a Leatherman Surge with bit kit. Great tool but too big and heavy for EDC.


  9. Really?  What responsible gun owner actually would shoot a drone out of the sky, keeping in mind you and you alone are responsible for that round.  That round is likely going to sail on and hit something or someone else - not a great idea.  Perhaps birdshot if you have some room to other properties, but I would not suggest you take aim with you .45 :)

     

    There is also a high probability that the drone is photographing you!


  10. There are going to be lots of new issues with drones. Once a drone gets up high enough it doesn't have to be directly over your property to pretty much have a view of all of you property. You used to be able to put trees up to block the view from a street. It's not going to be practical with drones. Very difficult to preserve your privacy. And as "abuses" get publicized it is going to be difficult to stop the government getting involved.


  11. The NRA-ILA has responded to the commission recommendations:

     

    We urge the Governor to actively and aggressively adopt these much needed reforms.  While these recommendations fall short of fixing all that is wrong with New Jersey’s flawed gun laws, we are encouraged that this represents at least a small step in the right direction and offers a degree of relief to beleaguered New Jersey gun owners at this time.

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