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  3. Posted

    In my job I don't have anyone that pays for my training or anything that pertains to keep my knowledge of my job up. I pay for all of the classes I take and all the books I read so that I can do the job that I do and do it well. So if a cop only was to qualify once or twice a years with a gun that doesn't seem right, as we all know going to the range and shooting some paper is much of a test.

     

    I know if I would of made such a mistake at my job I would of been fired and well I would probably expect it. There should be no doubt if you draw your gun and you miss your target and hit another person not involved in the issue then you have screwed up royally and need to be fired. I think it's pretty cut and dry

    In the military you also don't get the opportunity to get training whenever you feel like it. You get it when they give it to you.

    So lets trash the military now too, ok???

    C'mon, who's first? Lets trash cops and the military.

    Go ahead. who's first? Roofers???

  4. Posted

    It makes perfect sense if you just consider a police officer a job and not an anointment from god. Because it is just a job. And the officer is just a person. I could get info how the job can lure predators in because of the "power" but its an argument that I just don't feel like getting into.

    "anointment from God"??????????

    Wow..... Who said that??????

    I didn't go there, so please lets not associate me with that kind of statement in any way.

    If anyone wants to twist my words or my opinions, lets please not twist them to levels that have nothng to do with my actual statements.

    I may have only 231 posts here on this forum, but I've lived life longer than I've been a member here.... so I'd appreciate some degree of respect for that, at least.

  7. Posted

    you are making yourself look bad and ignorant with this 5th grade rebuttal

     

    in case you missed it;

     

    bureau of labor and statistic.

     

    Most police are killed in car accidents with nearly half not being on the job. 

     

    As for roofers, 3x as many on disability for accidents than police and 34 per 100k killed on the job vs police at 12 per 100k. 

     

    you really want to go down this road or would you like to actually have a factual discussion?

    Then lets police our towns/cities/nation with roofers.

    I'm sure that they would never drive a nail wrong, nor would they ever make a bad judgement about dealing with everyday policing issues.

     

    And thanks for the 6th grade education.

     

    Btw, I'm not ignorant. I just possess a different opinion than you. Yeesh.

  8. Posted

    So if a bridge collapses, only PEs should be allowed to criticize the engineer who designed the bridge?

    Yeah. You two have totally destroyed every objective concept that I could ever conjur about THIS PARTICULAR issue.

    Bridges. Roofers.

    Nice comebacks.

    Hard to argue with those two unrelated issues, so... I won't.

    Unbelievable.

  9. Posted

    come from a family of blue and your post is absolutely ridiculous.........

     

    First off, pd is not even in the top 10 for most dangerous profession according to the numbers that have been posted here lots of times.  Hell, roofers have a more dangerous job and I have a greater chance of not coming home from work than a police officer...by the numbers....

     

    Roofers?

    Really??

     

    I'm out.

  10. Posted

    Nope, but when I make mistakes I don't have a blue wall of brothers AND a union rep covering up my mistakes, I have to own up for my foulups all on my own.  It's on my head.  Yeah - not responsible for people's lives, I get that, but I still have to be responsible for my own actions, as should all people.

     

    If you're inept, I really don't care whether you're stocking shelves at walmart or are a police officer - if you can't do your job, maybe you need to get out and find something you CAN do.  Or shall we say that it's OK if you don't do this particular aspect of your job well, because you didn't quite get enough training?  In corporate america, if you don't have the training and you want to get ahead, you get off your butt and you get yourself the training (at your own expense frequently).  Maybe these guys should put in a little more trigger time, take a few force on force classes (yes, which i have done...).

     

    There are other equally or more stressful situations that occur everyday, and to stand here and say that what LEO's have to do everyday is stressful is to diminish reality.  While shootings occur everyday, the same cop is not involved in all of them.  We all have shitty days.  For that matter we all drive the highways with thousand plus pound vehicles and have to make split second decisions that are life and death frequently too.

     

    Tedious - one U, not two.

    Yeah...stocking shelves wrong is EXACTLY the same thing.

    And thanks for the spelling lesson. You have completely dismantled my opinion with that.

    Allow me to try this again...

    TEDIOUS

  11. Posted

    So many tough-talking guys here who have never dealt with truly (and I mean TRULY) stressful situations, or even the most remote possibiltiy of a two-way rifle range... and they are always the strictest criticts of those who are (potentially) in those situations every fricken day.

    So to all of you, I say: Walk the walk, or STFU.

    EVERYONE can judge others.... but what about you? Are you PERFECT at ALL TIMES???

     

    T E D I U O U S : /

  12. Posted

    Check out Ottomanelli's right next door to the woodland park range

    +1 on OSA.

    Plus, there aren't a whole lot of other choices up here in Bergen County - other than Ramsey Outdoor. But I can't really see Ramsey Outdoor working with you the way that you'll specifically need them to.

    So maybe give OSA a chance to take a look at your wish-list. They may actually be able to start checking-off some items on your list right away for you.

    It's either that, or travel. Or........ <shudder> the internet  : o

    ;  )

  13. Posted

    Heres what I'm looking for:

     

    16"+, its going to be a range gun.  Its my first and purely a "toy".  I'd love Sub-MOA but we'll get to that later.

     

    Doesn't that depend more on the shooter than on the rifle?

    Look within Joe... that's not something that you can "buy" on the cheap ; )

     

    You're on a strange quest... but it's cool that your building. I just don't understand the motivation aside from the word "CHEAP".

    But to each his own, so the more power to you for doing it your own way. But are you sure that you'll truly be satisfied with your rifle after it's actually been built?

  15. Posted

    I had seen that ATI when I was searching for a lower for my own build. And yes, it's cheap (and that's what actually drew me to it in the first place). But it's also plastic, and that raised a red flag for me.

    Yes, Glock is also plastic, but it's all Glock.

    The AR platform on the other hand is modular, so that lower has to fit with other elements of the rifle (and a mag).

    So while you might be surprised by the quality of the molding right now, I would hope that you'll still feel the same way after you attempt to marry that lower with other AR parts.

     

    I'll be curious to hear from others here who have built and fitted and fired (and banged around) a poly lower. Therefore I'll restrict my comments to my own particular concerns about the plastic/modular aspect - and I won't pretend to know anything beyond my own particular uncertaintly about those aspects. 

     

    That said... I loved building my AR, so I hope that you'll enjoy the experience as well :)

  18. Posted

    Whatevers.

    Typical Funny or Die stuff. Not very ('funny', that is).

    Btw... isn't there already a Black NRA? Bloods..... Crips. Don't those "organizations" already cover that need??

    Because I don't get it; is Sarah saying that guns are only for white people? (and white hispanics?)

    It's all so confusing.

     

    And before anyone gets their panties all into a twist, yes... I do actually get it; It's funny for the children! Tee-hee.

  21. Posted

    Palmetto State Armory will now be only a last resort for me going forward (if at all).

    I'm now into my 10th day of waiting for my order to be processed.

    And 3 requests for info (1 email, 2 via their online messaging system) went completely ignored. NO RESPONSE AT ALL.

     

    I finally decided to call them directly. It was a long wait (very long!) on hold, but I was glad to hear (probably about 20 times or so) that my call was very important to them. Whew! That came as a huge relief to me, because I was beginning to wonder if they really gave a rat's patooey about their customers.

     

    Anyway, when I finally did get a live customer service rep, he told me that they are backed up. (paging Capt Obvious!).

    So I asked him how long it typically takes for PSA to process/ship an order.

    Answer: 5 business days.

    (funny.... my order was almost double the typical process/ship time, so yep.... they're pretty backed up all right)

     

    However... I was assured that I would recieve a tracking number by the end of the day.

    And I did!

    At 10:06 PM.

    Only one probelem.... the package didn't actually ship - it was only assigned a tracking number. It still hasn't shipped. The order is still "processing" at PSA. But they did say that I'd get a tracking number, so woo-freakin-hoo on that.

    (btw, I'm very familiar with shipping logistics, so no need to educate me on the process)

     

    Palmetto State Armory

    PAINFULLY SLOW to process orders.

    COMPLETLY UNRESPONSIVE to their customers.

    BOGUS shipping info just to take the heat off of them if you should happen to call.

     

    Btw, I could handle the delayed processing/shipping if they would have been responsive to any of my multiple requests for info. But they weren't, and that shows a serious disregard and disrespect for thier customers.

    Bad on them.

    BUYER BEWARE

    (unless you don't care about timeliness and customer service, of course)

     

    I'm sure (actually I'm guessing) that there are many positive buying experiences with PSA, so good for you if that is your experience.

    But this is my experience. And it is my first buying experience with PSA - and now my last. The complete lack of respect for their customers sealed the deal on that.

  22. Posted

     

    Huh.  This is weird.  I thought I had lost by .38 points, now I won by .62?  Amazing..... apparently there was a stat correction to one of my players...

     

     

    Sep 10

    DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB)  Rush Yds 10 1

     

     

    Yeah, Yahoo's live scoring is really sloppy. My score also changed as well since last night (although it had no impact on this week's matchup results).

    Poor checko.... he's gonna be SHOCKED!

     

    Lesson learned: never trust the scoring until THURSDAY. That's when Yahoo finalizes the scoring. Until then, changes will be applied - and I've seen swings of as many as 7 points long after the fact.

  23. Posted

    I understand what you're saying. But I know people from Taxachusetts... and the Giants are a Super Bowl rival to them.

    A week 4 loss to a division rival is a week 4 loss.

    But a Super Bowl loss is a HEARTBREAKING part of history. That stings!

     

    Otherwise, you're right. Why would they care about us. We certainly don't care about them. They're irrelevant. 

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