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Posts posted by Peter Goldwing
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Dont make yourself vulnerable . A few years back I travelled on Rt 95. Late at night I stopped at a well lit gas station in GA. IT WAS DESERTED. While filling up, out of nowhere a young guy showed up on foot and asked me if I have a few bucks to spare. After " sorry no" he continued to walk towards me insisting.
I put my left hand out as in STOP and I told him not to come any closer while my right hand was in a ready to draw position. Immediately he acknowledged the threat and retreated with " sorry, never mind"
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For one to poses a hand gun in NJ you MUST HAVE a permit to carry This part is many times forgotten or overlooked. Only exceptions to this law allows you to have a hand gun in your state. Whats my point and where Im going with this? No idea
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Doesn't NJ consider justifiable need as the lawful purpose?
I am guessing I have more likelihood of moving to PA to carry than waiting for NJ to give in to this!
What you consider justifiable need is not what the State of NJ consider it
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Shot gun, rifle, BB gun. No handgun
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Really? Everyone let that slide? Well, I'm not going to...
I have not purchased a single firearm in the state of NJ. Sure I've had a few pistols transferred to me by FFL's in NJ, as the law requires, but were purchased from out of state retailers. Every long gun I own was also purchased out of state, with the background check and transfer completed in the states where I bought them.
well thats what I meant, You only can take possession of the gun in your state. Come to Fl and buy a gun at a gun dealer, or PA. It wont happen .( you can buy it but cannot take possession of it)
My theory was that once I had the weapon it has to arrive to NJ by Interstate travel in order for my CCW to be recognized in NJ. It might be wrong as others pointed out. I wish you good luck, not in a sarcastic way, with getting your CCw in NJ or an outside one that NJ will recognize it.
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Guns dont make one invincible and sometimes the security it means to deliver might be a false one. Three years ago I traveled to Birmingham from one of my trips. I stopped at a motel and I saw lots of bass boats in the parking lot. I assumed there was a fishing tournament near by. A few days later I saw in the news that a guy staying in there heard a noise during the night. He got his gun and went outside to investigate. He was mortally shot in the head . I have never found out if the criminal was ever caught.
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Thanks for that explanation, but where does it say you cannot carry a gun in a School zone
The Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA) prohibits any person from knowingly possessing a firearm that has moved in or otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.1
It sounds gibberish to me. In FL dont bring a gun to school and dont worry about it. Nobody is going to make any detour from their travel just because there is a school somewhere within 1000 ft of the road, At least thats what I do.
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There are other threads dealing with this issue. I dont think so. You only can buy your gun in NJ as everyone can buy their guns ONLY in their home state.
The gun has to arrive in NJ by interstate transportation to fall under this law. Yours does not. The bill is not made to force any state to issue more permits but to allow those that have it to bring their guns along.
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I am not sure how this would work in NJ:
"..... in any other state that permits residents to carry a concealed firearm, in accordance with the restrictions of that state."
NJ considers justifiable need as a requirement so it is unknown if another states permit that doesn't require justifiable need would be valid in NJ.
It still is short of the 60 votes required in the Senate to pass.
Thats not what the bill means. It means any state's permit shall be honored in NJ (If it allows conceal carry, which it does) and THEN the person has to adhere to NJ restrictions. Lets say NJ says you cannot take your gun in movie theatre or other restrictions. An outsider has to carry his gun just as a NJ guy with permit to carry would. The idea is just like an out of state driving license.
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Never heard of 1000ft rule and I dont think there is one. At least national law. As a matter of fact there are quite of few Universities that allow conceal carry on their property.
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I think you will find this sad story interesting. Like I said I belong to a few motorcycle forums. One of them is GL1800 ( the Honda we ride is 1800 cc 6 cylinder.)
We have a few meet and great over the years and in occasions other non Honda riders join in . Passed summer my wife and I were starting our country tour when the GL1800 group organized a meet and greet . A nice guy, 67 y/o i think attended the meeting, on his Harley Electra Glide. I dont think I ever met him.
On his way home he stopped for the night in a motel. He told his wife that he is going to call her in the AM before leaving the hotel. The call never came and the wife called the police. Everything including his wallet and the bike's key was left behind at the motel but the bike and the guy had vanished.
On the end the cops solved the mystery.
In the middle of the night the guy was awoken by two guys on a pickup truck trying to load his $40,000. bike in the trailer behind the pickup truck. He jumped in the trailer trying to save his Harley but the guys drove away, stopped in a cotton field and beat him to death
Whats my point, before someone ask.
1)The best thing the guy could have done is to call the cops and give them a description of the truck regardless if he had a gun or not
2) If he decided to jump in the trailer a gun could have saved his life.
No Danno we have no thicker skin just as you dont want to be called a thug just because you like guns. Peace
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FBI Uniform Crime Reporting publishes lot of data. You can slice and dice it the way you see fit.
Here is "Murder" by weapon type, by State.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-20
Am I blind or there is no FL in this chart?
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I just wanted to relate you some of of my experiences but some of you only got the misspelling mistake and made fun of it. In ALL the bike forum thats a no-no. People in there are harsh on the ones making any fun of a member. If the trend continues I'm out of here as I find plenty of people to be nasty to me in road traffic .
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You forgot to post your location Danno ?
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The point is : its good to be able to carry a gun when you are in uncertain situations. Sorry that I assumed you would understand that.
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I have 4 large live oak in by backyard. Today I bought a mulcher shreader. I took sample dirt to Department of Agriculture and they said my soil is alkaline. The mulched leaves will bring it to normal
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Florida and many other states you dont have to notify the cop you're carrying. It might be a good idea sometime. It never happened but if my gun is in the glove compartment and I get stopped I will inform the officer before reaching in there. ( you dont even need a CCW to have a loaded gun in your glove compartment)
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I buy only guns that have a safety lever and carry the gun with one in the chamber and safety on. I train to release the safety and then shoot. Many experts dont agree with that but that's their problem
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I decided to buy an used leaves and brush chipper and I found one in a Craig list add about 40 minutes from my house in Lake Mary FL.
I know the general area as being desolated with farms and houses far in between. The machine was described as almost new for just $120.00 I called the guy up and he said I could be there in about an hour.
In occasions like this Im very cautious. Craig List had a lot of crime done by attracting people with a low price or the crook coming to your place to see your goods. Monroe Twp recognizes that people could endanger themselves in such events and established a parking lot under video surveillance.
So my wife and I, both packing, went in there. I told her not to get out of the car and after pulling in the back of the house as I was asked over the phone I parked the SUV and trailer a bit away from the storage shed and I met the guy at the door.
The deal went fine and the owner showed us a great collection of antics.
We are not paranoid regarding crime but for sure dont want a hunter to go pissing in the woods and find our bones.
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LOL. Great
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I googled "NJ gun forums" and this site came out. I double checked since it was too much of a coinkie dinkie but there it was "New Jersey Gun Forums"
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Thank you guys. By trade Im an electrical contractor and have done jobs from Somers point to Franklin ( Rt 23) and all in between for over 30 years. Its good to be here and be familiar with your places. Thanks again.
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That wouldn't matter so much to the "out of state" person, because none would dare bring their weapons into NJ to shoot them, since they'd be illegal (i.e. no "permanent domicile" for them to be transported to), for the most part. I know mine (even those that originated in NJ) will never see NJ soil, ever again.... EVER!
Which brings up an interesting point. Even if national reciprocity is passed, one way NJ can defeat it is by keeping the current "exemption structure" for firearms in place. Yes, you might have a valid out of state carry license/permit, but what good will that do if you still can't possess the weapon for which you have it? Unless they change the exemptions to include "any person who has a valid out of state carry license or permit may possess and carry a handgun in places other than their permanent domicile, business or range, shop, etc."
Which, of course, they'll never do. And the feds can't stop it because that has nothing to do with recognizing an out of state carry permit. "Sure, we recognize the permit... we just don't allow you to possess the gun for which you have it."
A conceal carry permit is not for a specific gun in Florida, its for any and all hand guns
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Sorry to say that this site is poorly moderated and appears to have a lot of teenagers on it. Nothing for me to learn from you or you from me. While some seem to immature to carry a gun others might be qualified. To mani antics for me here. Good Bye.