NFRs2000NYC

Again, I can't find the point in your post. The desk worker and a mugger are NOT the same thing. The car was not towed under physical threat of force. Mugging is a threat of force. It is pretty cut and dry in terms of law. No crime has been committed with a car being towed. Hell, even if it was stolen on a towtruck, it was still NOT under threat of force. A carjacking IS, and many states allow you to kill the carjacker, and if he actually takes off in your car, you have the right to defend your property. Hell, if a mugger steals your wallet with $1000 in cash in it (along with your ID) who's to say he won't think... "hey, this guy has a ton of cash, and lives in a nice area, he must have stuff worth stealing." Then, the mugger will break into your house while your kids are asleep. Defending property should be as part of our freedom as defending our body.

Any recommendation on 45 ammo (target practice?)

The quality of this pistol in comparison to most others I've held (including Wilson) is excellent. There are no burrs, no rough edges, no parts that grind together, nothing wabbles, nothing sticks, honestly, it really is amazing quality. It is not as nice as the regular p220 that a friend of mine has, nor as nice as the rest of their line. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my Mosquito, excellent gun, and as long as you feed it CCI mini mags, flawless performance, but this is in another league. I strongly suggest anyone looking for a full size 1911 take a look at this thing. Hell, the carry size is easier to find than this thing. I originally wanted the Stainless elite (same gun, but with nightsights, and rosewood grip) but no one in the country has one in stock, so I made due with this one.

I know the model number threw you guys off, , it's the Sig P220 Match Elite. Haven't had a chance to fire it yet (waiting for my box-o-45) but am excited to go and put 500 rounds through it....wait...that might be pricy, 100 rounds. Some quick observations.... 1) Beautifully made and excellent machining. 2) Heavy SOB. Solid block of stainless steel, so it's expected. 3) Front nightsight bright as hell. 4) While not Wilson Combat smooth, the gun is extremely well made, and the slide is easy to operate without having to use a pickup to pull it back. Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase! This brings my total pistol count to 3, Glock 19, Sig Mosquito, and this thing. After handling a few "mid level" 1911s (Kimber, Springfield, etc) this IMHO, is an excellent 1911 replacement, and IMHO (and IMHO ONLY,) higher quality for the money. Dammit, just noticed I posted in the wrong section. Mods, can you please move this to Handguns. Sorry for the mishap.

If you don't want to mess with extensions, apply for 3, and keep track of timing. If you do want to deal with extensions, apply for 6.

You do not need a DL or a permit to get an FID card. To get an FID card in NJ, you need two things... 1)Proof of self. US Passport is usually the best, but if not, a DL or Permit, or ANY STATE ID is accepted. 2)Proof of residence. Usually, two of three recent bills will do. Electric, gas, and phone/cable are the best. They cannot require DLs or Permits because that would require one to be licensed to drive in order to purchase guns, and of course, that isn't the case. (P.S.) When I applied for mine, the above two (passport and bills) were all I presented to the detective. When you DO get your FID, you will want to buy something. When you get to a gun shop or your FFL, they require your FID card AND a NJ ID which has your photo AND address on one card. In NJ, as far as I can see, you have three options for that one....a DL, A permit, or a non driver ID. I have a non driver ID as I have a NY DL (doesn't pull points from other states )and didn't want to give it up, so I needed to get a non driver ID, as I can't have a NJ DL while keeping my NY one. In short, use your passport, and you will have no problems.

It's like a Kevin Costner movie or a liberal complaint...talk about whats wrong, lots of noise, lots of drama, but in the end,nothing happens.

I agree with the premise of the article (center mass is not a guaranteed kill) but in a real gunfight, you have no other choice. It is still best to shoot center mass for one reason, and one reason only...largest surface area. You have the best chance of hitting the guy center mass than if you shoot anywhere else. Hell, dump 3/4 of the mag into him, and one between the eyes since he isn't moving much, but otherwise, aim centermass. Shooting at T11 won't get you very far.

Technically correct, but this would fall into the category of unlawful/wrongful arrest. Innocent until proven guilty remember? They cannot arrest you because "anything could have happened." They need to prove that something did happen, and you are now not allowed to own handguns. If you have an FID, they can run you, see if you have warrants, hell, they can run an NICS check at their expense, but other than that, not much they can do. However, this does not mean that some idiot cop doesn't ruin your weekend by holding you until "Monday morning."

Just for the sake of discussion...I have two apartments (rent) one in Millburn, the other in Queens (NY). I live at both. I work in the city, and if I am tired, or have to be back in the city in a few hours, then I sleep in my Queens apartment. My wife, my daughter, live in Millburn, and I am there most of the time. My FID card is NJ. My Driver's License is NY. My guns are in the NJ apartment, and never brought across state lines. I can't find any law stating that I am doing something illegal. There is no law connecting driver's licenses and firearms (otherwise it would require one to drive in order to own a gun.) The reason why I am posting this is that last weekend I picked up a Sig220Elite from my local FFL. I handed him my FID along with my NJ NON Driver ID. He asked me how I am handing him a NJ non driver ID if he knows I drove to his house. I informed him that my DL is NY, and one has nothing to do with the other. He made a funny face (like I'm doing something wrong) but didn't say anything. However, he didn't know that you are allowed to not provide your SS# for the NICS check either...so who knows...

This post, in terms of responding to the subject is incorrect. The USSC ruled that a law enforcement officer has no DUTY to protect you in any way, shape of form. If you are from a small town NJ, and a van of baddies comes to your house, each with 3 AR15s and 4 glock 17s, and a police car arrives...if the officers deem THEIR life will probably end if they engage, they have the LEGAL RIGHT to NOT engage. Police do NOT have to risk their lives to save yours, and don't you ever forget it. P.S. This does NOT mean, Police can ignore 911 calls, walk past a crime in progress, or things of that nature. We are talking about a true life threatening situation, in which THEIR life is at stake as well. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1976377/posts

Christie was a sap on this one. MTA/Port Authority is one of the most powerful, ridiculously overpaid unions in the country. For someone who is so anti union, he didn't put up much of a fight. My parents live in queens, and I live in short hills. It now costs them almost $30 to come visit me, and that cost is going up. I am currently in the process of convincing my wife to GTFOut of here, and move out west (Colorado perhaps.)

Again not true. I might LOVE cars. I might bust my a** for 5 years, and save up every penny so I can buy my dream 57 Bel Air in cash. I can't afford another one. If you steal it from me, you cost me 5 years of my life, and for me to replace it, you might have cost me ANOTHER 5 years of my life, if ever. It is not up to YOU (you meaning anyone other than me) to decide what I can and can't replace. If I steal your grandfather's watch, or something you can't replace, then what? What if I steal a safe from your house, and you see me wheeling it down the street, and inside, is your life savings (because you are one of those people who doesn't trust banks)....your last 10 years of work are in that safe. Who is ANYONE to tell you that "money can be replaced." Things can be replaced AT YOUR expense, thus, it's easy to say "replace it."

None of the above are done with the threat of force, thus, completely meaningless. If a best buy employee put me in a headlock with a knife to my throat and forced me to buy a new washer dryer, yes, open season. Until then, your example is completely off base.

It can take up to 5 business day to cancel a payroll check. It takes less than one hour to cash a check. I know we are splitting hairs here, but in my America, you would be able to kill robber if he stole your used toilet paper. Stealing is stealing.

Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated.

Hey guys, Now I know that Utah requires you to take a special class to obtain a CCW, while Florida only requires SOME proof of you being competent with a firearm (ie NRA course,etc). My question is this...if you get a UT CCW permit, can you then apply for a FL one, and since you already have the UT one, it is proof enough that you are competent? Thanks for any insight.

I disagree. Life has many meanings my friend. A paycheck is part of life. You need to spend a week to work, not see your family, and give up personal time for that paycheck. Having it robbed from you is like having part of your life stolen. Some states recognize the defense of personal property. To me CCW gives me the right for EXACTLY that, to protect my life, my family, my livelyhood, and that for which I worked for. Unfortunately, some lawmakers disagree.

Total BS. The Supreme Court RULED that officers, on duty or off duty, have NO DUTY to protect you.

Honestly, I do agree with you, and almost everyone in this thread. When a politician is anti gun, or even doesn't give gun issues they time of day, we MUST question them as a leader, as an American, and as a citizen of our community. HOWEVER, I hate being a hypocrite. I am a big Ron Paul fan. However, he does have SOME issues which many people hang on (his views on marriage, abortion, etc.) They vote him out SOLELY for that issue and that issue alone....nevermind the fact that he has excellent understand of economics, healthcare, and a slew of other things that are USEFUL in fixing the country. Thus, I find myself torn. One of the things I hate most is Unions, and I love Christie's stance on that. I like the way he has a no nonsense way of talking to people. However, agreed, the gun stuff does bother me. Maybe its a case of "the devil you know is better than the devil you dont?"

Due to work and Miss Irene, I think the earliest I would be able to make it out would be the 11th . However, after that, I would love to come WAAAY more often. My in-laws live in Old Bridge, so hopefully the wife won't notice that suddenly I want to go to her "in laws" a lot more often.

I am sorry, and I don't normally post things like this, but I feel I need to vent. I think you are doing this community a huge disservice by not providing ALL information of this FFL. Name, address, number, whatever. What he is doing is irresponsible, and could cost someone a lot of time, money, and possibly worse. Not only would I have plastered his info on every forum I am on, I would have also used every last ounce of my energy of having him stripped of his FFL license as well. Something like this should NOT go unpunished.

Honestly, as much as gun rights mean to me, IMHO, voting for any leader on one issue is stupid. I always laugh when people elect a president based on his gay marriage stance or abortion. If an idiot like Obama was running, but LOVED guns, I would not vote for him. Christie has many good points, and as long as the good outweighs the bad, I will vote for him.

Got it. So waving a gun around is a no no. Understood. Look forward to meeting some of you guys out there!

Two more things.... 1)Can I bring my wife to shoot while on probation? 2)When I sign up, can I being any gun or does it have to be a specific kind? I was planning on bringing my .22LR Sig Mosquito.