surfgod247

No I haven't tagged along with anyone. Its just something that I have always been interested in but never knew where to start. Maybe I will get out there and find out that it isn't even for me. After the basic course will I feel confident enough to go out there and give it a shot or is the class just there because of some bs law?

What is the best way that I can start hunting with no prior experience? I have always wanted to give it a try but non of my friends hunt and it seems like something that's usually passed down from generations. Is there a class that I can take to kinda show someone very new the basics of it so im not out there making doing something wrong or worst dangerous?

With domestic disturbance cops can legally enter your home without your consent. Its considered a exigent circumstances.

My last permits took about 60 days, I finally called a lawyer that handles gun laws in NJ and he says even if you bring them ( the township ) to court, it doesn't play out in our favor even though we have the law on our side. Besides what everyone else told you to do you can write your local pd, just say I dropped off my permits on x date it has been x amount of time and would like a update on the status. What the lawyer told me is send it certified mail and make sure they have to sign for it. He said that the police will look at it as you might be trying to build a case and should greatly speed things up. Last time I sent my letter a week after I sent it I got a phone call telling me to stop in for my permits.

Your absolutely right they do need a reason to pull someone over first. I should also state this is just my opinion on this bill, you might feel very differently then i do on a issue which I totally understand. Im also not saying that im right and your wrong. If anyone was wondering im not Spanish im as white as they come but do feel that if your here legally, whether it be though a visa, green card or born here you deserve the same right as everyone else. As gun owners we take a lot of shit over what criminal do with there guns and don't think another group should take shit because of the problem with immigrants.

well if you are trying to counter act ILLEGAL immigrants sneaking into the country FROM SOUTH AMERICA how the hell else are you going to profile them OTHER than race... i think it is pretty safe to assume there is not a HUGE problem with the Chinese illegally entering through Mexico.. when the people committing the crime are comprised almost entirely of people of Hispanic ethnicity then you are foolish to ignore that.. the problem with the PC police is that they will in the face of a problem IGNORE the obvious route if that obvious route entails profiling people based on race EVEN IF the people causing the issue are composed entirely of that race.. the truth is not always pretty.. and being asked for my "green card" is NO different than having to produce any other identification.. i get in a fist fight with someone at a bar.. the police come.. once the fight is broken up the investigation begins.. one of the first questions.. DO YOU HAVE IDENTIFICATION.. this is COMMON practice.. Well no you have it wrong, if you don't produce your green card with this bill its a misdemeanor, me being a citizen i can tell him my name address and s.s. and off i go. Me being a American citizen im not obligated to have id where as person holding a green card has different rights then me(with this bill).

Who exactly would be the "victims" of this "intrusion". Citizens? Not likely. I don't change my standards because its a immigration bill. I don't support bills that don't define there text. Laws that allows cops to interpret them as they see fit is a unbalanced power. Do I think something needs to be done about immigration? Yes absolutely, do i think this bill will help? I just don't know and guess only time will tell, but I do think it says something when the (AACOP) The Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police opposes this bill. To answer your question I think the victims of this bill will be the Spanish-American population since I feel that REASONABLE SUSPICION truly means racial profiling. If they get rid of "REASONABLE SUSPICION" or define it I would have a much different attitude toward this bill.

this was discussed the other day on the news at pretty great length and they kind of danced around what the deal is for obvious reason, to be effective the police WILL NEED to rely on racial/ethnic profiling coupled with other indicators.. not to state the obvious.. but you are dealing with a state in the southwest.. you are trying to combat South American illegal immigration.. so the reasonable suspicion would be something like a traffic stop, in which they encounter a driver (most likely Hispanic) that has an altered drivers license.. or maybe none at all.. they will then obviously detain him.. and conduct an investigation into if he is here legally or not which MAY sound very intrusive.. BUT YOU MUST THINK about it from a logical standpoint.. if you legally immigrate into this country it is my understanding that you are legally OBLIGATED to carry your "green card" at ALL times.. so the investigation would take all of 5 seconds.. people are trying to make this out to be some HUGE intrusion in which people of hispanic ethnicity are going to be rounded up into concentration camps and have all sorts of civil rights violations... this law is really no more than saying not only can an officer ask you for identification BUT they can also ask you for proof of citizenship, all of which is accomplished by a small credit card size ID card.. hardly the giant "anti immigration/anti hispanic" machine the media is trying to make this out to be.. Personally like I said before I would never support a bill that doesn't clearly define there text. I would think if anyone knew that it would be Nj gun owners.

I don't like any law that gives cops the right to act on "REASONABLE SUSPICION" alone. "REASONABLE SUSPICION" sounds a lot like "justifiable need" found in NJ ccw law. I'm not going to support it unless they define "REASONABLE SUSPICION" very clearly.

Well this isn't my fid card I'm talking about, I already have a fid card, This is simply 3 handgun permits that has taken longer then any other thing involving permits that I have done before.

Wall township, my references were called about 3 weeks ago and the detective on the phone was very nice to me and was like I'm pretty much done with your application. I just don't understand how they get away with this, whats the point of NJ 30 day law if they don't have to follow it. I guess it aggravates me a little bit since i have two guns paid for that needs to be picked up.

So it has now been well over the 90 day mark and i am still waiting on my permits to come back. The thing that really gets me is i've been calling on a weekly basis this month and asking if there has been any update on my permit and this week the guy gave me some attitude for calling. The thing that worries me is that i had a family member get arrested for drugs and feel like this might be holding up my permit even though she doesn't live with me. I'm kinda at the point where i might even hire an attorney for help. My question is there anything i can do before i have to go that far that can help my situation and what is the cost for an attorney to make a call and get my permits?