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Posts posted by Spartiati
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Held. Absolute to torture...Maybe next week....Time to get back to work...
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Man, I want them to take just so I can see what arguments our idiot DA makes, she will be good for a few laughs. She reminds me of the lawyers from Idiocracy. Sadly so did the 3ed Circuit judges.
Same here, they will have little patience for her idiocy.
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So if they don't hear the case does that mean the most recent ruling stands and Cali gets CC?
Yes
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No the conference tomorrow is top secret.
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8 months minimum, They are clowns. I grew up there and still have close friends who are cops there and it takes 8 months for them too.
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Not approved for publication means that case does not get published in the law books and is not prescedential and is not usually cited as primary authority on a legal question. It really does not add any fuel to the pro 2A fire.
Is this likely because of the other case being more significant and thus setting the precedence?
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Why doesn't he ask criminals to consider not being criminals thus not putting law abiding citizens in the position to have to defend themselves against bodily harm?
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Maybe. Any one judge on the 9th circuit can call for an en banc hearing. If that happens, they will hold a vote and that vote will determine if they rehear it en banc.
Unlike other courts, there are just so many judges in the 9th circuit that the en banc hearing is decided by a panel of 10 judges (10 or 11, I can't remember) instead of the entire court.
It is extremely common for the 9th to rehear cases en banc.
But they may very well decide not to.
Here's the thing, if they decide to make the state a party, it is likely that it will be reheard en banc. This also means that the decision is no longer precedential and it won't factor into a circuit split for Drake. Then it will be likely that Drake will be denied Certiorari. There is a small chance that it could be granted but that is a small chance.
Ryan when is the deadline for the court to make a determination as to whether they giv standing and whether they will do en banc? Is there a line in the sand so to speak?
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Wow thats quite a change in optimisim. Why do you think now there is a better chance a judge will ask for en banc? Just because Harris is crying now? When is the deadline to do so?I'm only pessimistic if they hear it en banc. If they don't, then I'm wildly optimistic.
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I 'd be careful using this report. First, the statement that a law limiting magazines to 10 rounds likely wouldn't have made a difference isn't based on a scientific study. Second, on page 75 the article reads;
"Cho was able to kill 31 people including himself at Norris Hall in about 10 minutes with the semiautomatic handguns at his disposal. Having the ammunition in large capacity magazines facilitated his killing spree."
Therefore they could use this report as a basis for an argument that even 10 is "large capacity" and recommend even less.
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This is not good news for NJ. Whats left Just Drake?
Why do you say bad for NJ? None of these had anything to do with CCW. Not surprised they didn't take these, though I had hoped for Lane. Not sure if we can read anything from these as to whether SCOTUS will hear Drake.
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I just read the whole CA9 opinion. They specifically reference CA 2,3 and 4 and point out that all 3 were bad decisions and should have gone the other way.
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Can someone post a link to the CA9 opinion?
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Hopefully influences the court's decision to hear the case. Other "free" states definatley have a vested interest in this outcome because could impact them down the road.
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Agree, this sounds like may be isolated to use of Federals. I have also had primers pop during seating in my xl650 and it didn't set off a chain reaction. i was using CCI's so thinking the fact that the federals are softer allows the chain reaction to happen.Don't let this stop you -- Alec is a special case -- every time I've read about this happening there has been 1 common factor -- Federal primers
You can still hand prime -- I honestly can't get used to the priming motion on the press -- That's just me, I spent a LONG time priming with a hand primer that it feels strange for me to prime any other way
You also are used to touching every piece of brass -- You won't outgrow that with a progressive press -- Hand priming lets you inspect every piece of brass and be sure the primer is seated correctly
Another issue that drove me crazy was not knowing -- not knowing if the primer was right till I had a loaded round -- I found myself pulling out the brass after the primer seating stage -- what a terrible waste of time that was
It just make me feel better to pull the de-capping pin from my sizing dies and feed primed brass into the press -- no reason you couldn't do the same -- The progressive is worth it
Alec - all the times my primers went pop were after a caliber change and I didn't adjust the brass locator tab at the priming station properly so the brass was not properly in place. Given the number of rounds you have done and this happening only twice likely not reason in your case but if you feel a lot of rough seating may be something to consider.
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Tough qustion to answer flat out as depends on a number of things i.e. how many rounds a month do you shoot, what is your time worth etc.
I'd say though if you are only shooting a couple hundred rounds a month it will take quite awhile to break even when you factor in opportunity cost of your time which seems to be important based on your post.
For me I like the time alone to escape 4 screaming kids. But that's me.
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I assume you live in NJ (guessing because of the forum). If your buddy is an NJ resident too this can be doable. If he is not, you will need to do any transfer via an FFL.
If it is a pistol you will need a PtP to take possession. If it is more than 1 pistol you will need a PtP for each and an OGAM exemption.
For a long gun a COE is needed per firearm and you need to have an FID.
If you can't get the paperwork done in time there is a company that started up last year which will be able to help - but for a fee, obviously. https://firearmssupportandstorage.com/storage/gunsitters/
Apparently it took a ton of work to sort out the legal mess that is NJ gun law to enable these guys to offer this service. I have not used them so cannot vouch for them. One of their guys came to a SCFGPA general meeting last year to raise awareness of their services (sales pitch).
Hope it helps.
Wasn't much of legal tangle for them to do it becasue they are an FFL. The have been in business awhile. They have a large underground safe that they had been using to store digital media etc. and got the idea if they obtained an FFL they could also store firearms and that is what they are now doing. They also operate a retail business and just opened a tactical shooting range inside which utilizes glocks fitted with CO2 cartriges which similate recoil (cycles the slide) and shoots a laser at a projection of simulated real world senarios. Was in there a couple weeks back and it is pretty cool.
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Why? I have a document stating I have legal claim to my box and if transported in approved [read locked and in a unloaded state} manner,I see no reason I can't store my firearms in a very secure safety deposit box.
Think the point is in the state of NJ transportation of a handgun can only happen between exempted places of which a bank is not unless they have an FFL, you have legal residence there, they have a shooting range etc. Thats why this place exists:
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Per 2C:58-3.3 FID, permit to purchase hangun or valid permit to carry handgun.
2C:58-3.3. "Handgun ammunition" defined; sale, purchase, etc., regulated; violation, fourth degree crime.
1. a. As used in this act, "handgun ammunition" means ammunition specifically designed to be used only in a handgun. "Handgun ammunition" shall not include blank ammunition, air gun pellets, flare gun ammunition, nail gun ammunition, paint ball ammunition, or any non-fixed ammunition.
b. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of, or receive, purchase, or otherwise acquire handgun ammunition unless the purchaser, assignee, donee, receiver or holder is licensed as a manufacturer, wholesaler, or dealer under this chapter or is the holder of and possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, a valid copy of a permit to purchase a handgun, or a valid permit to carry a handgun and first exhibits such card or permit to the seller, donor, transferor or assignor.
c. No person shall sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of handgun ammunition to a person who is under 21 years of age.
d. The provisions of this section shall not apply to a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics who purchases, receives, acquires, possesses, or transfers handgun ammunition which is recognized as being historical in nature or of historical significance.
e. A person who violates this section shall be guilty of a crime of the fourth degree, except that nothing contained herein shall be construed to prohibit the sale, transfer, assignment or disposition of handgun ammunition to or the purchase, receipt or acceptance of ammunition by a law enforcement agency or law enforcement official for law enforcement purposes.
f. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the transfer of ammunition for use in a lawfully transferred firearm in accordance with the provisions of section 1 of P.L.1992, c.74 (C.2C:58-3.1), section 1 of P.L.1997, c.375 (C.2C:58-3.2) or section 14 of P.L.1979, c.179 (C.2C:58-6.1).
g. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the sale of a de minimis amount of handgun ammunition at a firearms range operated by a licensed dealer; a law enforcement agency; a legally recognized military organization; or a rifle or pistol club which has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent for immediate use at that range.
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They wouldn't. They want to give the state a chance to respond first.
It's not a quick process, it's slow.
Will be entertaining to read the states' retarded response should they respond.
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Great win, however what's to stop some other town from still disregarding the law regardless of this case and require additional requirements and deny if not met? Wouldn't an individual still need to sue the town? Like many have said this has always been the law...
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Complete BS. Convenience fee!
It is convenient for me to pay cash and not pay the fee, however they won't allow that either. Therefore they should skip the BS and call it what it is the fee is $20 to do the background check.
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Anyone care to speculate how this will effect 9mm prices and availability for civilians?
I'll take excess inventory in 40 cal bullets for loading 10mm
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Wow just heard on the news that most of these car jackings happen between 3pm and mid-night. So, their solution to prevent them was that you should alter your behavior to do your shopping before 3pm to protect yourself. Is that what we have come down to in the People's Republic of NJ, we the honest citizens have to work around the schedules of criminals who all pack heat? Time to educate the masses that good guys carrying guns in this state will protect even those that choose not too.
As if to say if everyone did that the criminals would continue their present behavior and patrol malls all by themselves....Rediculous on so many levels.
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They banged up the side of it and shot out the back window. Too much damage to make it onto a ship. It was all for nothing.
This. Unreal that this guy lost his life for absolutely nothing. I'd be willing to bet after they ditched the car they went to McDonalds and the animals didn't give it another thought...
What Will SCOTUS Do
in Current New Jersey Gun Laws Discussion
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When ever they get to it. Might come out in a miscellaneous order or may need to wait until after the next conference which will be next month...