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Posts posted by voyager9
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The reality is it shouldn’t happen at all. But with the Democrats trying to mimic Colorado in NY, CA, and somewhere else (AZ?) the republicans need to do something. At the end of the day SCOTUS needs to smack it all down as unconstitutional political BS.
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2 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:"""""""""""""
To prevent gun violence, and to mitigate the risk of mass shootings, the State of New Jersey (“New. Jersey”) has long banned possession of large capacity ammunition magazines (“LCMs”) — firearm magazines capable of holding more than the standard number of rounds provided by the manufacturer. [emphasis added]""""""""""""""""""""
feels like that statement of his will shoot them in the foot
The entire statement is “interesting balancing”. Something explicitly prohibited by Bruen.
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QuoteIf you’re in that age group and have your eye on something at the local gun shop, you’ll want to act fast. The federal government could — and probably will — choose to appeal the ruling and ask for an order staying the decision while the case is argued further. It may also take some time for NICS background check system to adjust to this new reality, so the window of actual opportunity here could be pretty short.
How much you want to bet that the time it takes to update the NICS system is 100% equal to the time required to get a stay from the Circuit court?
Also, it doesn’t vacate any state restrictions so you’re still F’d in NJ.
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It sounds like they’re following the process. The court has issued a decision but the effect of that decision isn’t in force until they issue a mandate. So MD has until 12/11 to enforce the current law.
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13 hours ago, GRIZ said:I'm still waiting to see a crime solved by microstamping. Google it. You won't find one. I related earlier how MDSP asked the legislature to repeal the law. Millions had been spent with zero results.
Let’s even lower the bar. Show me one suspect identified due to microstamping. The whole idea of microstamping is such a snipe hunt that it would be laughable if it weren’t being pursued. Millions to implement all the logistical, organizational, and engineering changes reduced to vapor by a $10 Dremel.
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5 hours ago, DAHL said:Microstamping is a ridiculous idea.
This will produce more problems for the legal gun owner.
It’s only ridiculous idea until you realize that causing problems for the legal gun owner is the goal.
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43 minutes ago, Downtownv said:but I bet a case – perhaps one out of Massachusetts – is coming down the line
That case is certainly interesting beyond the 2A. Equal protection but also the notion that the defendant was complying with his home state laws while in Mass.
And in other’s defense the article should have led with that case and not 80% fluff about a non-answer by the NJ AG.
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1 minute ago, 1LtCAP said:so now what we need is another scotus decision to force it on him.
First you’d need actual legislation allow/forcing it. From what I remember there were some legitimate non-2A concerns about the way the previous legislation was written.
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Only if “sooner than we think” is before the Heat-Death of the Universe, then you’d be right.
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How about no.
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16 hours ago, ESB said:Are these judges idiots? Do they not know about Bruen or read what the Supreme Court has said? Courts are no longer allowed to use the 2 step approach and can't use means-ends for 2A cases. WTF?
Good video that the en banc opinion is completely unfounded
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I mean.. it could have happened. These same people are are a threat to down airliners with laser pointers.
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6 hours ago, 45Doll said:Pardon me if I don't shed a tear.
Are your tears made of vodka? Then it would be appropriate.
The fact that she has been propped up like Weekend at Congress is tantamount to elder abuse. She should have retired decades ago.
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6 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:because it appears as if no one fights the illegal restrictions......just the results of getting caught up in the mess.
It’s called Standing and is One of the cornerstones of the US legal system. Basically one must show “damages” in order to challenge the law. The State is very good at manipulating their interpretation of standing to get cases thrown out. For example “We have an obviously unconstitutional law and despite public statements saying we were going to abuse it we have not yet enforced the law therefor nobody can show damages or claim standing”
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11 minutes ago, GrumpyOldRetiree said:I agree, FWIW. Regardless of the outcome of a 3 judge review this case was predestined to go en banc anyway. This speeds things up by skipping the "middleman". Maybe now we can get a final, national ruling before I croak.
I don’t understand their strategy though. Usually they try to delay things for as long as possible. That’s why the 9th GVR’d it back to Benitez in the first place. Now they decide to skip a step? Almost like they want to rule on the case before something happens.
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8 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said:It seems some members of the very activist 9th circuit Court of Appeals are trying to play games... by skipping over what would be the "usual" next step in this case of a 3-judge panel.
This may be a good thing in the long term. The first time through the 3-judge panel at the 9th sided with Benitez only to have it reversed during en banc review. This time we save time jumping right to en banc. No point in wasting the time and money with the 3-judge panel when the 9th already knows how they’ll decide.
The other thing is that the 9th is between a rock and a hard place. SCOTUS already GVR’d the case once to “reconsider under Bruen”. Benitez’s ruling is very well reasoned in that context. The 9th will be hard pressed to overturn without Olympic-level mental gymnastics.- 1
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3 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:if they put the kabosh on ny's shiit, wouldn't that also do the same to nj and ca?
I don’t think it would have direct impact. The result of this emergency conference wouldn’t set national precedent like Bruen did. It would certainly be a shot across the bow, though.
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7 hours ago, Krdshrk said:Hochul throwing a hissy
Good.
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The whole argument that the “average” matters is stupid. As if the relative rarity of the event overshadows that the event occurred at all. “If it saves but one life!!”…”no, not those lives!”
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39 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said:My grandmother taught me people can't (shouldn't) believe everything they hear or read, and only half of what they see.
My grandmother also taught me “never stick your dick in crazy”.
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1 hour ago, gleninjersey said:Why say it's unconstitutional and then place a stay on it?
Probably to avoid having CA cry to the 9th circus for an emergency stay (for the entire appeal process). Instead by issuing his own stay it disarms CA from trying that tactic and also holds them to a timeline.
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CA district court issued injunction against the ban (again). Stayed for 10 days to give time for CA to appeal to the 9th circus (again).
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1 hour ago, Krdshrk said:Is it though? it seems like a compromise. The requirements were so overreaching before we could have pushed harder to get it removed completely - now we have less leverage.
Overton window..
CCW Is Implemented - Shootings Go Down!
in Current New Jersey Gun Laws Discussion
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Correlation != Causation.