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  2. Posted

    30 minutes ago, raz-0 said:

    Iirc this is federal court. It’s go back up to appellate court after the judgement unless we win and the state doesn’t contest it. 

    after this, it would be appealed (by either party per anjrpc) and then go to the 3rd circuit and scotus from there.  Even if we win, Nj will appeal it just to cause delays,

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    On 7/16/2022 at 5:36 PM, brucin said:

    I applied for some pistol permits and received a call from my local PD in 2 weeks that I was approved and I would get an email from the NJSP in "a few days" with my permit numbers.

    This is the first time I've used the FARS system but its now been a week and no email from the NJSP. I know they have the correct email as I received my reference notifications.

    How long does the NJSP take to get out these emails?

     

    I had applied for x3 p2p on 7/6 (post new law governing p2p/FIDS). 

    On 7/23 the detective called me so i can pay the fees online.  He had issues emailing me a confirmation so i paid for them on the town website while he was on the phone.   He told me to give him 10 mins and he would process them and that I should be getting an email from the FARS system.  

    The next day (on a sunday) the FARS system emailed me the approval of the p2ps.  They even gave me an e-FID (didnt apply for it - already had the paper one).

     

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    15 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

    i've had my fPid over 10 years. but if i wanted to pick up that springfield armory sa35, then i'd have to apply for a p2p....so i'm guessing that they'd tell me i gotta get training.....

     If I’m reading the text if that p2p is your “first” then yes training otherwise no training 

    does anybody else read it that way ?

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    2 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

    sooo....now we need training to buy a handgun?

    I missed this during my first pass reading it but I believe no training if you already have a fid or have already been issued a p2p (unless  I’m reading it wrong ) : 

     “A person who obtained a permit to purchase a handgun or a firearms purchaser identification card prior to the effective date of
    29 P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill) shall not be required to complete a course of instruction pursuant to this subsection.”

     

     

  9. Posted

    Here is where I’m confused - the law reads you don’t need training after your 1st P2P - so I guess we are ok then (assuming this isn’t your first rodeo)? (See last sentence) 
     

     “In order to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun or a firearms purchaser identification card, the applicant shall demonstrate that, within four years prior to the date of the application, the applicant satisfactorily completed a course of instruction approved by the superintendent in the lawful and safe handling and storage of firearms. The applicant shall be required to demonstrate completion of a course of instruction only once prior to obtaining either a firearms purchaser identification card or the applicant’s first permit to purchase a handgun.”

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    2 minutes ago, EX Carnival man said:

    My plan is to wait too. I leave for Florida in November and won't be back until March.  I'll still watch this forum and the State Police page to see what required. When we have something concrete than I plan to move forward. 

    On top of that, I am pretty sure the Judges will want to remove themselves from the approval process altogether (a combo of: they are redundant now, there is a shortage of judges, volume of permits coming in plus the 2 year backlog of evictions they need to address first because of corona) and that would change things as well.

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    I know we are all excited and you all want to apply but i think patience is needed here.  If you listen to these videos/podcats from the ANJRPC & GFH you can see what i am talking about.  Something needs to "trigger" the state to act or change the requirements.

    https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/716827433/e09b4eef73

    The Gun For Hire Radio Broadcast: Episode 577 - Best Gun Range NYC and NJ Area | Gun Range Near Me

    Congrats to @gunforhire for all his hard work that finally paid off & sticking his neck out for all us!  Congrats to ANJRPC also.

    I know many of us knock the NRA etc and sometime its valid.  In this case, the NRA has come through and they should also take some credit for this - like it or not.  (no i dont like wayne but the NRA is the most established org - i am not giving up on them yet)

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    2 minutes ago, MartyZ said:

    What is this crap?

    "Each person applying for a Permit to Carry a Handgun must supply a letter of need, specific in content, as to why they have a need to carry a firearm in the State of New Jersey"

     

    Do we just put "All Legal Purposes" onto a blank sheet of paper?

    I would put down:

    For all lawful purposes as per decision - New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen, Docket 20-843

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  20. Posted

    Sorry for spamming - taking these quotes off the scotus blog for everyone's quick read"

     

    Alito responds to dissent... though Heller concerned the possession of a handgun
    in the home, the key point that we decided was that “the people,” not just members of the “militia,” have the right to use a firearm to defend themselves. And because many people face a serious risk of lethal violence when they venture outside their homes, the Second Amendment was understood at the time of adoption to apply under those circumstances.

    In a concurring opinion joined by the chief, Justice Kavanaugh writes that today's ruling "does not prohibit States from imposing licensing requirements for carrying a handgun for self-defense." "In particular," he says, "the Court's decision does not affect the existing licensing regimes--known as 'shall-issue' regimes-- that are employed in 43 states."

    The states, including New York, that had used proper cause requirements "may continue to require licenses for carrying handguns for self-defense so long as those States employ objective licensing requirements like those used by the 43 shall-issue States."

     

    Page 2 of Alito's concurrence.  He dismisses Breyer's recounting of mass shootings. "Why, for example, does the dissent
    think it is relevant to recount the mass shootings that have
    occurred in recent years? ... The New York law at issue in this
    case obviously did not stop that [Buffalo] perpetrator."

  22. Posted

    The Thomas opinion indicates that it is "settled" that places like polling places and courthouses "were 'sensitive places' where arms carrying could be prohibited consistent with the Second Amendment." And courts can analogize to simliar sensitive places, he adds.

    On the other hand, Thomas adds, "expanding the category of 'sensitive places' simply to all places of public congregation that are not isolated from law enforcement defines the category of 'sensitive places" far too broadly."

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