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Anyone have any updates for Camden County? Thanks...

Folks. May I also add that once you get a jersey CCW, (like me for the past 10 plus years.) Next time you are driving around and a cop rolls behind you to run your plates for usual expired registration license etc, etc.. If the vehicle is registered to you, the cop should be able to see (definitely) if he pulls you over and gets your DL. That you are a NJ Carry Permit Holder. Just something to think about...

This whole recurrent Identgo fingerprint thing is to: Track to see if you had committed a crime. For example. You decide to knock over a liquor store with a gun/knife and your mask on. The cops dust for prints after you made the getaway. Now they can see and compare to the database, your previous Identgo prints. Then they show up at your door and bust your A$$.

Glad to see lovely Ocean County DO THE RIGHT THING... Now for the tough part. Anyone know about Camden County as of yet? (Not holding my breath.)

My jersey """"carry"""" permit's only restriction is "during work hours only..." Otherwise there is NO restrictions. And I have carried all over the country and ALL OVER Jersey. For work and on my own in Free States. The permit itself has NO indication of weapon you are to """carry""". That information is on a totally separate piece of paper on NJ Courts letterhead and that letter indicated Make, Model, Serial Number, Caliber. In my case it's either an Hk P2000 9mm or Glock 30S in .45ACP.

Let's see... 1. I submitted my renewal to the NJSP late March, 2022. 2. Did my Sagem Morph whatever its called, about 2 weeks later, locally in early/mid April, 2022. 3. Got a callback from NJSP approx. 3rd week of May, 2022 to come pickup my """carry""" permit. 4. When I picked up my permit, it had a NJ Courts letter attached saying the court signed off on it around early May 2022. Or 2 weeks prior and that's when they also started the 'clock ticking' on my 2 year permit. Thereby losing about 2 weeks of permit validity. <They do this all the time. *Truly, a horrendous, onerous, non-transparent, non-constitutional system and a statist money grab.

Sorry folks but listen... I am a jersey 10+ year long restricted """carry""" permit holder. Just rec'd current renewal this past May. It usually takes them 2-3 months to 'produce' my renewal. There are co-workers who have been waiting for over 14 MONTHS and counting. I warned and warned. But jersey's system is deliberately INSANE. That's just the facts.

I had a bad feeling about all this. Like I said a few pages back. The courts maybe a Trap. Jersey is beyond help.

I cant help but think this whole 'civilian carry' permit court(s) thing. Is a trap.

Ok. I am a 10 plus year jersey 'restticted', """carry""" permit holder. 35 year jersey BS """FID""" holder. As far as the passport pics. I cut mine down to *around* 1.5 inches on the kitchen counter with the same scissors I use to cut open salami, soppressata packaging, (stains and all.) Once the permit is ready, jersey will 'glue' your pic to the back portion of the jersey """carry""" permit on a crude piece of thick paper and it looks 3rd Grade, maybe 1st Grader even. Making a fuss over this passport pic thing is really not needed. If you get denied. And you go for a non-res out of state permit, i.e. NH. If they ask if you were denied. Not sure how one would handle that, but they (America), know jersey is MESSED UP on anything 2A or 1A or 5A or 14A... etc... So not sure(?) NOW... There is literally 4-6 differing jersey """carry""" permit standards. 1. LE 2. RPO 3. Armored 4. SORA 'Red Card' 5. Civilian (possible location restricted) """"carry"""" permits. 6. Insert Future Jersey NON-Sense. My Main Concern: Is all the radical far left judges in those SUPER BLUE counties in BLUE jersey (We know who they are...) who will commit some kinda self styled 'insurrection' from their obstructionist bench. With all these CCW applications now in their possession we will see their True Colors. We need MANY MANY MORE Lawsuits. STILL.

I know in my county Camden County and in my town inside Camden County. 7 CCW applications were processed without reservation by the local PD so far... But I believe it goes to the court in Camden next? <<<(This Is What Worries Me.)

Ok very very good. Do you know what some of the jurisdictions counties these 23 are in? Thanks...

So in Summary... Jersey courts are beginning to play the 'do not comply with the SCOTUS' game? We NEED an Injunction ASAP. ANYBODY even actually GET their post Bruen jersey CCW yet???

Please see the official jersey response:

Do you mean before or after Bruen?

Do you mean before, or after NYSRPA vs. BRUEN?

1. Yes. They said to "Trenton." 2. Yes. 3. Not sure who prints the """carry""" permit card itself for my part time gig. BUT....That card IS NOT designed to 'conveniently' fit in your wallet. I always trim mine down. They dont even want you to ""carry"" your """""carry""""" permit! LOL!

I am a NJ """restricted""" """carry""" for work permit holder for the past 10 years. My current (short 2 ridiculous years) renewal was recent, May 2022. My PREVIOUS renewal was issued right before the (coof) coronavirus pandemic. Around late January 2020. That application process was started in the Fall of 2019. I want to say Oct. 2019. At that time. I used a different notary. Which was a notary at my personal bank. My bank's notary used a stamp only. This was submitted to the NJSP and the new Superior Court Judge (Camden) REFUSED IT. Saying that 'stamped' notary seal was not acceptable. Outrageous. I know the previous judge that did my renewals years past was a good Gun Guy, even owned an AR. But he was very old and had already passed away. So then. I had to REDO my horrendously onerous application again with our nice notary at work. Our notary has a raised seal and stamp and notarized my redone application BOTH the raised seal AND stamped seal. YES. Jersey truly does make up it's own laws as they go along. OBEY THE SUPREME COURT NJ. OBEY THE SPIRIT, LETTER, TEXT, AND COLOR OF THE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR DEFINED SCOTUS RULINGS. OBEY THE LAW OF THE LAND NJ. OBEY OBEY OBEY, PERIOD.

I have obtained my 'restricted' NJ "carry" work permit for the past 10 years. My most recent renewal was a few months ago in May of 2022. Good for only 2 ridiculous years. I only qualified w our same certified firearms instructor. BUT my scores which are only good for 6-months, was expired by a week or so. I submitted my scores ANYWAY. My scores have always been perfect 150/150, never scored less. The qual was 7 yards all the way out to 25 yards. The gun you shoot with, is the one 'allowed' by your permit. More Ridiculousness. Submitted all this jersey extreme and onerous application around late March of 2022. Got my renewal around late May 2022 even though it shows the judge approved it early May 2022. Picked up from local NJSP barracks. There was no "training course". There was no need to "appear before a judge." Had NO probs with that Sagem Morpho or however it's spelled it terms of getting an appointment this past winter 2022. AT THAT TIME.....

SO. In jersey we now have potentially THREE separate "carry" standards for the same, on paper, CCW permit now? Standard #1: I have had a jersey "restricted" "carry" permit for 10 years now. I can carry in jersey, pretty much anywhere (and beyond) at work. Standard #2: Retired law enforcement. Can carry pretty much anywhere in jersey, I believe as well. And very similar renewals etc, like my current/active permit. Standard #3: "Civilian" CCW (under Murph's Alinsky style Rules for Radicals definitions) maybe OFF LIMITS in certain arbitrary "gun free zones", retail establishmemts, restaurants, movie theaters, 'buffer zones', "public safety" 'zones', 'sensitive areas', parks, 'crowded' areas, and etc, etc, etc... and etc.... The depths of the feel good STUPIDITY of this state's utter non-sense is beyond any and all human comprehension. PLENTY of low hanging fruit and material for EASY immediate future open-and-shut lawsuits and Class Actions for any good ambitious attorney(s) to devour and make a name for themselves.

Folks. You MUST understand. That the jersey legislature, judicial and Murph. Are FAR OUT Leftists by any of the National, normal standards. (86% of the USA is 2A CCW compliant and rising.) This Means: That jersey and especially Murph. Will utterly defy, to the CORE, by his own personal decree and based on his own personal 'feelings.' ANY AND ALL movement on 2A Rights, CCW, mag ban, and Supremacy of the Text, History and Tradition of the 2A issue. They will and have already, (illegally) blocked the High Court's Rulings. His highness is showing his True Colors of statist radicalism. Not Rocket Science here. Murph and the Gang, has already made it abundantly clear, their most extreme of extremist insurrection intentions to defy the SCOTUS. THE TRUE REASON Murph is against all this 2A stuff... It is NOT about """"public safety"""". The CRATS KNOW that as you have more people finally exercising their 2A Protected Codified Rights. These people of NJ will, **NO LONGER BEGIN TO VOTE DEMOCRAT.** They utterly know this and THIS is EXACTLY what is keeping them UP at night. They will LOSE over a century of their stranglehold on power and cronyism. NJ MUST OBEY THE LAW OBEY THE SCOTUS, PERIOD!

Now that jersey's 'mag ban' was just remanded back to the 3rd Circuit court yesterday along with the 9th, 4th, etc. To be redone using TEXT. HISTORY. TRADITION. No "interest balancing," no "2nd tier", no more intermediate scrutiny. What if the 3rd and especially the 9th, refuse to comply with the SCOTUS, yet again??

KEEP SUING JERSEY INFINITEM. MURPH MUST COMPLY WITH THE US CONSTITUTION, PERIOD. WE DONT CARE ABOUT MURPH'S FEELINGS.

You are not being a douche. That is a good question. But I would not put anything past Gov Dicktator.

OH YES HE IS. Utterly illegal. Temper tantrum safety nazi Murph is ASKING for a national whoop ass major lawsuit. Bring it Murph. The wind is GONE from your sails. And your nazi dictatorship and your armed enforcer cronies Will Submit. YOU WILL SUBMIT TO NATIONAL SUPREME COURT RULINGS PERIOD.