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  2. Posted

    3 hours ago, ChrisJM981 said:

    Please see 3. 

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    So, if I buy from a dealer in that configuration... I can change out the brace for something shorter, and be good at 26” extended? Doesn’t say anything about these firearms have to be out in public like that... just sold.

    They really need to get someone to proofread these before sending it out. Or not, because it sounds so idiotic.

    4 hours ago, PK90 said:

    An attorney would pick this letter apart. But then you'll reach step 2.

    Same point with the measurements...

    You have an email from NJSP, stating a firearm with a folding brace is ok. Yet, that firearm (Black Aces DT) is only 26+” with the brace extended (folded, it’s well below 20”). And now this one stating must be at 26” fully collapsed. Which is it?

    No issue on my end if that is argued. My TAC-14 is locked in my safe, even if the status changed... will be on the way to Maine once I get back.

    3 minutes ago, PK90 said:

    So, all this just so one can have a 4" shorter less accurate barrel, an uncomfortable "stock", a useless front grip, and a flash hider which minimally suppresses a flash, AND pay twice the price for it. :facepalm: 

    GET OUT OF DODGE PEOPLE!!!!

    I’m considering a MM SBF... and I can go for a SBR stamp in Maine. I will be getting three suppressors when I’m up there. Big reason why looking at it... because I can go pick it up and own it from Jump Street. No wait for the stamp to come back. It is good to go as soon as NICS clears.

    I’m also getting the CMMG Banshee, and likely a PTR 9CT. And while the CMMG comes with a brace, I’ll put one on the PTR. Legal and does not require the stamp. If I decide I don’t like the brace, which it isn’t that uncomfortable with my TAC-14... apply for stamp and once it comes in, buy/install a stock. Same process can be done in any other legal location... and a lot of people do commonly buy pistols with braces until stamps come back to install stocks. For people in NJ, going SBR isn’t an option due to state law. Braced firearms were the only way to get a firearm like a SBS, and now a SBR.

    Only real issue with stamps is the costs, time, and restrictions after the fact. Some feel a brace is worth more than those issues.

    In regards to the “4” less accurate barrel,” does maneuverability outweigh accuracy a specific range? If you aren’t shooting past 75 yards, what does it matter if it is a 3 MOA gun? We just started on 870 familiarization down here, and a 14” SBS is a lot more maneuverable than an 18” shotgun (even more so than a 20”). Is the stock better than a brace? Of course... but the same OAL with a brace is more better than an 18” 870.

  3. Posted

    Funny how backwards NJ is...

    The original NJSP letter regarding these firearms was related to the ones using shotgun ammo (Shockwave, TAC-14, etc). It had specific points, like it could not start out as a shotgun (Federal requirement, as well), but then stated that it must comply with BATFE regulations. I’ve yet to see any statement on OAL measurement, other than this email from NJSP. Measuring with the stock/brace extended IS BATFE regulation. Hell, one of the firearms NJSP cleared by name has a folding brace, and if you measure it folded, you are well under 26” OAL.

    But it is one of those things that if really pushed, they could possibly revisit it and say these are all “sawed-off shotguns.”

  5. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Modern Materiel said:

    Hell yeah only if we are invited to the property in Maine... 

    Ballistic Advantage Govt Profile 1:7 twist black nitride 

    It’s literally at the end of I-95... just before Canada. I might put a pile of dirt in the corner of the property. Not for regular shooting... but zeroing/testing. County range is about two miles away from work.

    Thanks.

  7. Posted

    3 hours ago, High Exposure said:

    I checked out the Modern Materiél SBF on my way home on Friday. It’s awesome! I’m really excited they did this and the fact they they are based in N.J. - to me - is even better.

    I checked out the parts list - It’s quality stuff.

    You may save some money building your own, but you’d have to use inferior parts and look for sales on shipping. Personally, the juice just isn’t worth the squeeze to build one.

    I’m going to buy one from MM ASAP. Then not only do I get the SBF but I also get the support of the company and their warranty, and there is no confusion of how it was built, where it came from, or if I’m outside the parameters of the current rules.

    Yea, same boat. I can easily get an AR pistol in ME, and will (Banshee). But I like the idea behind the vertical grip.

    Only thing I got to look into if I can pull the muzzle device outside of NJ and have no issues. OAL is measured with stocks/braces extended, so should be good. I want to suppress it, along with everything else I can.

    I’ve seen MM for a little bit, and feel the same as you confirmed... they are good to go. Never dealt with them, as my ARs were all built some time back. Speaking to Joe via PM, I’m pretty much sold on one (he reminds me of Rudy from Macon Armory, who is proud of people using his product; like business owners with that type of contact). But I’m very likely going to buy the SBF when I get back up there.

    3 hours ago, samtechlan said:

    Because they might want the vfg without having to go the sbr route.

     

    3 hours ago, PK90 said:

    Okay. The ONLY reason. 

    Yep, main reason I’m looking. I know I can’t do it on the Banshee, which is why I’m sort of unsure on going with either the 5” or 8” barrel. I want to put something up there on the 5”... since that “forend” is pretty short. Reminds me of a KSG type of situation.

    3 hours ago, samtechlan said:

    I'm thinking about the Banshee as well and it would be a simple thing for CMMG to build (for the NJ market) some of the 9mm models with a slightly longer barrel (the current ones have an 8" tube)  or a permanently attached longish fh plus the all important vfg to get to the 26" OAL.

    The main advantage over the Modern Materiel 9mm firearm would be the radial delayed blowback of the Banshee rather than the straight blowback of the MM.

    Blowback will increase weight... just how it is. My D/I .45 AR is light compared to other blowback ARs I’ve handled.

    But I doubt you’ll see CMMG make a NJ firearm. Very limited market. MM is NJ based, which is why you see them offering them. The other manufacturers, I doubt they will keep those models offered in the long term.

    37 minutes ago, High Exposure said:

    You know, I’m reading through this thread again and I find it kind of funny.

    Everyone wants to build their own SBF. Everyone thinks that Troy and Dark Storm and MM are ripping consumers off...

    Yet everyone has all these questions and no one knows what they can and can’t do.

    Can I do it like this? 

    Is a receiver a rifle or a pistol or something else? 

    How long does this part have to be? How about that part?

    What’s Identical vs similar?

    Can I use a flash hider?

    What does the NJSP say? I mean the ATF? I mean both.

    And on and on and on.....  6 pages now of questions and bellyaching. 

    These companies cracked the code and came up with a product that everyone wants, but no one wants to pay for the work they put in to get these products to market and everyone wants their knowledge for free.

    When the company tries to share the guidance they received, the members get shitty and accuse them of being secretive, or wrong, or worse - liars. 

    Unreal. What is this Arfcom?

    They pushed almost all of their stock on hand out to dealers. That’s why I didn’t buy one yet.

    Call around and see who has what. 

    Nature of the internet... sad, but true. Hell, I still get people telling me I can’t buy a pistol out of state on my FFL-03, and that I’m breaking laws.

    I do agree, it is a little murky in regards to building your own. Which is why I say to buy one built. Have to be 21 to transfer something as a pistol/receiver, so no matter it being a firearm.

    That being said, if you get one in hand to shoot... definitely looking for a little bit of a review. I’m a few months out from looking, but definitely going to hook up with Joe to check it out. There is an FFL up in ME that I could check with, if there is still a backorder.

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  8. Posted

    I’d take a look on Amazon...

    I’m looking for ones when I get the Colorado... hopefully ordering it in the next week or so. Try to stick clear of ones you need to drill.

    Don’t know if they are still there, but used to be a guy that sold them at the Farmingdale 33/34 circle... by the old Stewart’s. If not, maybe American Van in Lakewood (unsure if you need an account) or Monmouth Truck in Shrewsbury.

  9. Posted

    22 minutes ago, JackDaWack said:

    Im not disagreeing with you... but... 

    What the ATF says doesn't necessarily apply to NJ, as NJ could be more regulated.

    While I personally don’t have to deal with it anymore... as my house in Maine closed yesterday... I’m not seeing it being too easy to build it yourself.

    Start off with a long gun, you made a SBR. Start off with a pistol, at least in NJ, you might have an “assault weapon.” To get to 26+” OAL, I believe you are likely over 50 ounces.

    While I didn’t mind the “gray” area with the TAC-14/brace (since Black Aces did the same folding brace setup, and was legal), that is a little too “gray” for me to recommend on the internet.

    That all being said, I’m going to try to link up with Joe from Modern Materiel sometime that week I get back up to NJ to check out their SBF. I do want to get the Banshee, but I can push that out until we switch over to Glocks (main reason it will be a truck gun... but I’ll toss my .40 SUB-2000 in as a truck gun). But I really don’t see too many short barrel firearm ARs out there. Guess most people just go to AR pistols.

    The SBF interests me mainly for the vertical grip, as I like running long guns like that. Can’t do it with a pistol. But the longer barrel keeps 5.56mm velocities up a little better than something shorter (less than 10”).

  11. Posted

    While I probably can get something better in Maine, I kind of want to buy one when I’m back in NJ... packing for the move. Maybe just knowing that and my TAC-14 were both middle fingers to NJ. Don’t know, but I’m very interested in pricing and who will stock them in Monmouth County.

    Hopefully HGW or Monmouth Arms (favoring Steve, since I won’t see him anymore). Shore Shot... too much bad blood over the years for me to walk back in.

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  12. Posted

    1 hour ago, Old Glock guy said:

    Second the MCARBO mods.  I have the 9mm version that takes Glock 17 mags.  I tried the Midwest mount for my RDS.  It's a clever design that swivels out of the way to permit the gun to fold, but the retaining bolt kept loosening up, and the gun would maddeningly not hold zero.  I currently have a QD mount on there (whose name escapes me), which can be removed and replaced while holding zero.  I'm going to check the MCARBO mount that you mention.

     

    I found it virtually impossible to get my head low enough to use the iron sights.  When I was able to get my cheek against the stock, I ended up with an ugly bruise.  The red dot makes a huge difference.  

    They had it for $99 for a few days surrounding D-Day... big pro-military and L/E company. It is somewhat higher, but they are still working on getting orders out. They were sure there was going to be demand, but think they slightly underestimated it. But from the people that tried out the prototypes, it far surpasses the Midwest Industries one.

    They also do a slightly higher rear sight that helps with the cheek weld. Think the mount goes for cowitness, and then you can raise it if your red dot has spacers.

    I looked at it via the website and YouTube... but will be heading to NJ whenever mine ships. Only gun things I had sent to FLETC was my P30 magazine/spacer for my duty gun... and ankle holster that I had modified for my 642-1 and weapon light.

  13. Posted

    6 hours ago, Maksim said:

    Personally?  I think it's a fad. (in the consumer segments).

    Until CBP, which is the largest Federal L/E agency, ordered optics ready pistols... I would have agreed with you.

    When they made their solicitation, CBP used a survey that they put out to field personnel... on what they wanted in a firearm. While sidearms are being issued with standard sights/standard plates, you’ll see a lot of interest in where it goes from here... especially with BP and how hard they are on their guns. If it gets utilized effectively, you’ll see other agencies follow suit... and likely more interest across the board. Higher interest, prices do have to come down.

    But from the amount of talk I’ve heard about it, I’m interested in seeing where it moves from here. Personally, I think it will be the future... not as big of a jump as from revolvers to semi-autos, but in the ball park.

  14. Posted

    8 hours ago, Maksim said:

    Off  the top of my head for the guns I own I would not buy these if I did not reload....

    1. Springfield XDm 45 GAP.

    2. All of the 9mm Makarovs...

    3.  Swedish Mauser 6.5 Sweed

    4. The two Swiss 7.5 Swiss

    5. 41 Remington Mag revolvers

    6. Jap Arisaka

    7. All of the 8mm Mauser guns.

    And the new bolt guns in 6.5 PRC, 300 PRC, and likely 6.5 CM.

    Factory ammo is avail but it is stupid expensive.

    6.5 CM is gaining a lot of new buyers so ammo is basically on par with regular quality 308...

     

    ...And let's be honest here... how many fans of 10mm are fans of 10mm cause it is different. lol.  We all have those things.  That is why I keep jokingly supporting 45 GAP.  Commercially a FAILURE BUT... it is unique. lol.

    Don’t plan on going with a .45 GAP. My view, if someone made a frame that wasn’t a 9mm/.40 double stack for it (single stack .45 GAP), there might have been a chance as a backup gun.

    9mm Makarov is available, especially from Hornady. Plan on getting one once I get situated in Maine. A CZ-52 is also in the mix, but I do already have another pistol in 7.62x25mm.

    Had a 6.5mm Japanese chambered Carcano, but got rid of since it was sporterized.

    Love 8mm, for the historic value.

    Not on your list... have my Oswald Carcano copy (6.5mm Carcano), Colt Vest Pocket (.25 ACP), two Mosin Nagants (7.62x54mm), Nagant revolver (7.62x38mm), and Springfield Trapdoor Carbine (.45-70... but also a Custer era gun). Don’t reload yet, and probably won’t until I build a garage/loft. Good ammo can be found for all of that, whether it hard to find or higher in price.

    10mm, I like for the history. At FLETC, they have a firearms display in one of their buildings. Has a lot of cool stuff, including an IRS Thompson (think a 1921, if I remember correctly; great condition, with the original case). Was talking with our instructor about it, and had to ask about the 1076 they had... which was an FBI gun. If there wasn’t the history stemming from the FBI Miami shootout... I likely wouldn’t have one.

  15. Posted

    56 minutes ago, Maksim said:

    2. Cost wise... cheapest 10mm at Cabelas is Herters, $18 per box.  You can pick up 40 S&W for under $10 a box now.

    I agree with that...

    But one thing with 10mm, is that most die-hards are reloaders. How much is the cost difference reloading 10mm over .40? And if that’s the case, they may also be in other cartridges based off it (9x25mm Dillon).

    I love my 10mm and will never get out of it. Do I have the desire to buy another? Not unless I get a Compact 3rd Generation... to go with my 1006 (mainly so I don’t need more magazines). If I do that, likely a 1066, and I’d send it out to get converted over to decock-only as my 1006 was. I considered a SIG, but at the same token... my needs for 10mm power will be quite limited. 9mm does enough.

    While I was never really a fan of .40... it isn’t a bad round. For as much as I’ve been shooting it the past few weeks, it isn’t worth anymore than 9mm. That being said, if I could buy my duty gun... I would. More because it is brand new, and switching to 9mm Glocks next year, but also because it is what I’m going through the academy with. Don’t think I’d buy one, after the fact... while I get the idea behind it, I hate the LEM trigger.

  16. Posted

    CBP is moving to an optics ready sidearm... which I will likely put one on when approved. I’ve heard rumors that OFO (which I’m apart of) might have to go 19, with BP having the 47 (17... pretty much). Either scenario, more so with the 19, I’m getting a Gen 5 34 (with optic, but like it since the cutout is gone) as a personal gun... and likely a CMMG Banshee to go along with it.

    I’ve heard a lot of good reviews of the setup (red dot pistol), but the main interest for me was CBP going with it. I considered having a gun cut for it, but just too much work, considering most of my guns were plated. I do have to research it more, as I want to get high enough sights to back them up to the red dot. Likely getting a suppressor... so, win-win.

  17. Posted

    3 hours ago, Ray Ray said:

    There is no way my hard earned money will go to a sub standard product.   Kel-Tec is most definitely sub standard. 

    Spend your money however you want. I’d put my MCARBOed SUB-2000 up against most other pistol caliber carbines... and would feel confident with it.

    Even the stock SUB-2000s have enough rounds through them to prove they are fine. You can call it what you want, but I do not see any other 16” carbines coming in that weight, much less be able to fold in half. Some of KelTec’s firearms have teething issues, but most get squared away. But the thinking outside the box is what a lot of buyers are drawn to.

    That all being said, think I narrowed down on the firearm I mentioned earlier...

    https://www.cmmginc.com/product/pistol-banshee-200-mkgs-9mm/

    Still getting that PTR 9CT... but I like what I’ve been hearing about with the Banshee. And since 9mm Glock magazines will be abundant in the next year or so, it will be a good buy.

  18. Posted

    14 hours ago, GRIZ said:

    You can get repro 1917 holsters from Pacific Canvas and Leather.

    Thanks. I’ve seen them... but since I want to get a S&W 1917, I likely will hunt down a nice period correct original holster.

    I did see a USPS holster for it on eBay, but let it go. I know USBP had some of these... which I’d like to find one of those holsters, but not holding my breath on that.

  19. Posted

    19 hours ago, Ray Ray said:

    As of now, yes.  But 1 Ruger can potentially take many more 9mm magwells.

    Even if you get a Glock SUB-2000... you can order the two halves (not the actual firearm... the bolt tube is), and a universal magazine release. You now have the multi version. Halves and magazine release come out to either $57 or $82... depending on which you buy.

    CZ-75, Beretta 9x, TP9, P320, M&P, P226, S&W 3rd Generation... then the Glock full-size or compact. And KelTec has been doing new magazine adapters as new guns have become popular.

    Still don’t see Ruger doing anything with other magazines... even though I’d want to see it. And still want a .45 version for a suppressor host. But money will go elsewhere until that happens.

    I am likely getting a 9mm Glock magazine carbine in the near future... at least when CBP fully switches over to Glock (figuring by October 2020, but likely sooner, since the northern border should be getting them first). I’d consider another KelTec... but an AR pistol also is sort of calling me. Definitely not a Ruger, completely due to weight.

  20. Posted

    I have the .40 that takes M&P magazines... being I have two M&P40s.

    Stock, they are borderline functional. Will it work... very likely yes. However, somewhere between airsoft and BB gun is a good comparison. Having a few other pistol caliber carbines, the SUB-2000 is nice for the folding feature, but it is as economic as you can make a functioning firearm.

    With that being said, if you like the design... look up MCARBO. They do A LOT of modifications for the SUB-2000. I personally have all of their internal modifications in mine... and remember how I said it felt like an airsoft/BB gun? The MCARBO equipped gun feels like a gun.

    I got on their pre-release sale, and got their new optics mount for about $100. Very nice design, and beats the other options... and still allows for folding. It will mount the SIG red-dot I have at home whenever I get situated up in ME.

    Comparing the Ruger, I can't really talk much... as I always preferred the CX4 to the KelTec. However, the Ruger is encroaching 7 pounds (CX4 is under 6). The SUB-2000... 4.25 pounds. Plus, if you want flexibility with magazine compatibility... the KelTec does do a lot more than just Glock and Ruger.

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  23. Posted

    On 4/27/2019 at 9:01 AM, JC_68Westy said:

    The negative posts in this thread are a good example of how people in NJ are "different" from people in other states.  Something about NJ seems to make people negative about everything, including being negative to people trying to provide alternative solutions to the gun law problem in NJ.  The same is true for any 2A issues, the negativity stifles everything.

    I have mixed opinions on it...

    Moving to a state where I can build an AR pistol/get an SBR (closing on the house in about two weeks), I’m glad that a company is thinking outside the box for people behind enemy lines. Same like the TAC-14/13, it is one of the only ways to have some freedom in NJ. But then, you have to worry about a short barrel, and someone saying it has a stock... while it might be legal, how knowledgeable will people be with it? I could see people getting jammed up with it. I still have people arguing to me that a TAC-14 is illegal (in NJ, but also Federally) with a folding brace, even though the Black Aces DT has a similar setup/shorter package... and is on the same NJSP letter as the Remington and Mossberg.

    To add to that, I think it has been beaten to death on how some people in the firearms community want fear out there... and definitely doesn’t mean NJ is an exception. Personally, I’m shocked any company would try to market stuff like that in NJ, due to the flack they are bound to get (just the legality BS).

    That being said, I’d be interested in it when the ammo is out/tested. Being able to toss in regular 5.56mm is nice, and across a home, it is going to do what you need it. Fifty yards... you are looking at sub-2” groups. But seeing a different outlook on rifling does open some options. Shooting a heavier load? Tweak the angles on the bullet to adjust twist rate. Go from 55 grain up to 77 grain, and not have to worry about twist rate. Not saying it is the solution to any ammo problem, but it is a unique route to go down... and I do see some potential.

    My “pistol” purchase is definitely a PTR 9CT... but I could see an AR pistol in my future. Maybe a SBR, but likely would be with the PTR first. Depending on where the ammo for this goes, I might be talked into one. If not, might just do .300 Blackout and invest in a .30 suppressor (already on the list).

  24. Posted

    1 hour ago, DaddyNick said:

    Haven't seen it yet. 

    But heard JW 4 is already in the works. 

    The way it ended pissed me off... because it made way for another movie. I was under the impression that there were just going to be three.

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