Lostboy

Oh, I'm confused then. Well regardless, then what?

If it goes beyond the 60 days and you have lawshield is there recourse? Can someone call and ask? I don't have lawshield yet. I fully intend on getting it but not sure if I need to have identity theft protection in order to use it for permitting issues.

Allegedly judge was on vacation. Again most of this is hearsay.

I'm one of the guys who did identigo last week and then qualified yesterday and early next week I will be submitting everything. Crossing my fingers it's all correct and works out.

I didn't think that a judges job was to make up laws.

Even telling you to come back sometime next week is ridiculous. This is all time sensitive stuff. My PD is usually really good with this stuff, but you never know if you're going to run into one of Murphy's lapdogs.

So when I'm standing next to my vehicle loading and unloading the cops are just going to watch me do it?

What's the right thread? I'm also interested.

We really should be recording these encounters and forward them to NJ2AS and everyone else with a social media presence.

I don't understand what motive there is for this... To profile you? To brow beat you? Such a strange situation. Does this judge really have a choice if you've met every requirement?

Like I wrote on the FB post, I'd that didn't come certified it must have been mixed up with the Republican voting ballots.

Thats ocean though. I'm still applying. GOA, NRA, NAPPEN, They should all be bringing it to them.

Someone posted this on FB today... Wtf?

i have one of these that I welded to the inside of one of my toolbox drawers. I was thinking about doing similar in my car. https://gunmagwarehouse.com/bulldog-cases-car-safe-11-3-x6-9-x2-5-with-keyed-lock.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla&gclid=CjwKCAjw6raYBhB7EiwABge5KuCZJgeuQUyQDN55GtsWEWTDyBrEvtjlWPXLwmPt0dj66nMLjCKzixoClZoQAvD_BwE

In NJ? Even Nappen teaches that you have a duty to retreat before firing. My bedroom is second floor opposite side of the house so if someone breaks in they're meeting God becuase I'm not jumping out a second story window.

I would not leave anything valuable accessable in my vehicle. That includes firearms. I will be mounting a secure lockbox in my vehicle in the event of me having to leave it there.

Duty to flee.

This only applies to men. From now on I identify as an adult female.

Sounds like this needs to be challenged. Did they give any insight to that?

I completely agree.

Good answer and I suppose you're right, but I still think you'd have a hard time watching someone drop a bunch of people when you could have at least tried to stop it.

I didn't use the word vigilante. I used the word vigilant. As in, be vigilant of your surroundings. Which is exactly how it was used. I also didn't say you have a duty to do anything. I said in my opinion you have a moral obligation to neutralize a threat especially if it's in your immediate vacinity. I should have worded that better. If you can sleep at night knowing you could have saved some lives and didn't that's wonderful. All of this really doesn't matter anyway because most public spaces are going to be "gun free zones".

Why not morally? Y'all sound like you took a class at the Uvalde recruitment center. I'm not saying youre wrong, but I think anyone who is carrying a firearm has a moral obligation to be vigilant and save the lives of others in the event that such a situation should occur. At least within one's immediate vicinity.

This is why anyone taking this seriously should be shooting as much as possible. I'm shooting twice a week and feel it isn't enough. If a guy walks into a food court trying to tag as many people as possible, obviously your own life is at danger. Unless you're planning on dodging random bullets matrix style? You can't just stand there like a moron while you think about if you're good enough to not hit Marysue. Regardless, you need to ask yourself if one life is worth the risk to save countless others. I don't know if I could live with myself afterwards, but I would have to try. If you're not willing to be the good guy with the gun, why bother with the permit at all?

My wife, kids, other immediate family or friends that I'm in the company of. Really though if you're in a public place like a mall food court and you have to diffuse a situation you're saving a lot of people that you may not even know, right? We just saw this go down in Indiana.