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  4. Posted

    4 hours ago, samiam said:

    I spent a bit over 1-1/2 hours putting 136 rounds into Q targets at 7, 10, & 15 yards at South Jersey Shooting Club this morning. I wouldn't say I shot great, but I shot tremendously better than I had last Sunday at FMJ. I had maybe a total of 12 rounds off target area but on paper. Usually those were from the first shot after changing distance; for some reason, those tended to go just a little high. This is the only practice I will be able to get before qualification at Shooters on Tuesday morning, but I'm reasonably confident that I can pass a CoF like what I've seen described by others who have gone there. I will be interested to see if they live up to their promise over the phone of a CoF that can be accomplished with a 5-shot revolver without reloading gymnastics. Descriptions of that aspect of the qual there seem to vary considerably between the reports I have read. I do have 2 speedloaders, and I did recover my proficiency this morning for loading without them, but I'd prefer not to push my luck too far in that regard...

    You got this !!!!

     

    There are a LOT of people in your corner...keep shooting, keep DRY firing..keep a POSITIVE attitude...failure is NOT an option!

     

     

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  5. Posted

    13 minutes ago, StephenNJ73 said:

    Hey guys,

     

    I live in central/north NJ (exit 137 on GSP) and I’m looking for a competent gunsmith who can install my two (already purchased) rmr mounts on both a Kimber Micro 9 and a SW Bodyguard 380. Does anyone have any recommendations? I’m not in a super rush but would love to have them done in 3-4 weeks, at the longest (if beggars can be choosers).

     

    thanks!

    Is this the dovetail mount with two set screws?

     

    If so, you can do that yourself....sight pusher etc.

     

    But I haven't heard of one staying put...unless it was loctighted...

     

    Ymmv

  6. Posted

    1 hour ago, samiam said:

    I'm scheduled for qualification at Shooters with my SP101 next Tuesday at 9 AM. I was assured of what has been reported here: no holster drill; no kneeling; no time limits; max distance 10 yards. I will go to SJCC in Winslow (where I am a member) tomorrow for some shootng practice at 10 yards and closer. I'm fairly optimistic about qualfying under those conditions. Obviously this won't be a substitute for holster drill, which I need badly (need to find a better holster first) but now I can do that while my application is making its leisurely way through the system. 

    You also need to practice shooting with your support hand...just because....as well and firearm manipulations...try to be ambidextrous for real life...just my opinion..  GL !

  7. Posted

    1 hour ago, samiam said:

    About an hour ago I got a VM from this instructor, telling me that "I was able to talk to a contact at the state, and I found out that we will be able to do that for you, and I got a copy of it" (that and it being the 5-shot revolver qualification variant). Maybe I'm foolish, since I'm burning the $295 I paid for this class in the process, but I have no faith in this guy, and I'm still done with him. He told our class that he was on the "NRA team that worked to develop" an NJ compliant curriculum for the class months ago on the presumption that Bruen would eliminate justifiable need in NJ. Well, I would expect that someone who was that much a part of the effort (assuming there really was such a project) would be considerably more  knowledgeable about the NJ qualification standards, including the existence of the 5-shot revolver qual. As far as "getting a copy" is concerned, two or three web searches, max, should allow anyone to do the same. NTM that the previous day, he claimed to have talked to knowledgeable NJ contacts who told him that the 5-shot revolver qual was dead meat. Not intending this post to be a major new rant, just updating the experience that I already posted. 

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  9. Posted

    15 minutes ago, samiam said:

    So, I called the instructor, Fred Hauber, shortly after 9 AM this morning, per his instructions to me on Sunday, and he was in the middle of a qual shoot. I made arrangements to call him back after 3 PM, which I just did. He informed me that he had "talked to several of his contacts who are NJ detectives" and they told him there is no longer a NJSP HQC protocol for 5-shot revolver in use. Funny, I didn't mention the 5-shot variant to him on Sunday, and he never brought it up as an option, either. He was working only from the standard HQC 2 list. He then recommended that I procure and learn to use a semi-auto (stating that they have a good selection there at FMJ) and he would "work with me" to learn it well enough to qualify. I didn't ask directly (I should have) but the implication I got was that he would be billing me for his time for this. I'm over the guy, at this point. Yes, as I posted here, I had already entertained the idea that I might want to change to a semi-auto handgun, but he didn't know that. I also recall that when I first had difficulty reholstering in qual he pointedly asked me (about my SP101) "Does that seem like a good self-defense handgun to you?" Hmmmm. I now recall that there were some other things he talked about that weren't directly training related that didn't quite seem to hang together, either, although I didn't take particular notice at the time. Sadly, the qual and the NRA CCW classrom work are linked, so I can't get the cert if I don't qualify with this guy. Oh, well, I'll live. I now need to talk to my son, who is a retired Coastie GM1, and get his recommendations on a semi-auto. After that, I'll take several deep breaths and decide how to continue this quest, if I do continue (leaning that way at the moment). 

    Sounds like a car salesman to me.....  a good revolver and knowing how tonuse it will not fail you....

    Move on from this guy....

    I know where there is a nice Glock 26...if you need info ping me.

    I used to carry it, it's now my daughter's up in VT...  she handles it quite well and I am sure you would too.  However don't give up in that wheel gun....

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  10. Posted

    2 hours ago, maintenanceguy said:

    First, there should be no qualification shoot to exercise a constitutionally protected right.  Now that I have that off my chest...Your brother in law should have a course of fire modified so that he can shoot it from his wheelchair. 

    I don't know anything about his disabilities or if he's capable of handling a firearm safely.  Assuming that he is, he is the poster child for why right to carry matters so much. It levels the playing field for someone who isn't able to physically defend themselves. 

    If he wants to carry and can't find a place to qualify, contact me and I think I can help.  I'm not interested in getting into the qualification game but I am an NRA instructor and I would be willing to meet you and your BIL to figure out a CoF that works for him and sign off on the paperwork - assuming he can demonstrate safe handling and can shoot some type of course so he has scores to submit.

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  12. Posted

    54 minutes ago, samiam said:

    I hear you, and mostly agree. Thing is, I'm not very confident right now that even with practice and a good holster, I could pass certain parts (particularly the 15 yard segment) of the current HQC 2 (as run by this instructor) with a 5-shot revolver, even using my speedloaders. That is what I need to discuss with him tomorrow. If the probability of that is low, then I need to decide whether or not to try to do this with a new gun, after going through the P2P process (which I heard is at a stand-still right now) and training with that. I'm torn. I can afford to replace the gun. It's the wait that would be galling, first for the permit, then the gun, then practice, then the rest of the qualification exercise. I'd probably be looking at September to October. I guess the positive side is by the time I got through all that (should I choose to go that direction) the resolution of certain other issues in NJ will probably be clearer... I suppose a third option would be to find some range that does an easier qual, but then there is a risk it won't be accepted (and I would sort of feel like I cheated, even if that is not reasonable). This instructor seems to have connections in high places, or talks as if that is the case, and it seems that passing his qual might have advantages. Thank you for your kind support!

    I dont know this guy or this place

    I have found after 55 years, people that boast connections are usually impotent....

    So many others have given good advice...

     

    A lot is in your head....  I was with a nypd guy (retired) who claimed a s&w 36 'chiefs' pistol was terrible gun and he couldn't hit anything with it....

    I can hit 4" steel with it at CR....

    Get some good working gear...practice...get your mind straight...  be positive... practice... and if the connections guy has some snake oil..don't buy it.

     

     

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  13. Posted

    5 minutes ago, DAHL said:

    With all this discussion about "qual" I find this whole process quite discriminatory. My brother in law is a cripple in a wheelchair and wants to shoot and carry. His hands and arms work OK but he can't walk very well. What do all you macho guys say about that?

    I say there is a thing called the American with Disabilities  Act.  ADA.

     

    Now there might not be a specific section, and I will check my books, to see if CCW is covered, if there is NOT....maybe this is something that we should all act upon for the 2A and the right of self defense is for everyone as best they can.

     

    And do you actually call him a cripple?  If you do you, well....jeez

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  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, samiam said:

    So, I didn 't pass qualification, because of several issues. First, I had a lot of trouble shaking off a massive amount of rust, since I had no range time in probably the past 3 years, or possibly more. Second, my new leather IWB holster turned out to be a significant liablity. It is reasonably comfortable, and retention seems to be very good - possibly too good, as cleanly reholstering on command was nearly impossible from a hip carry position. I had to use my weak hand to reach over and pry the holster lip clear of the top of the cylinder while jamming the gun down forcefully with my strong hand, with the result that I muzzled my leg more than once. Third, the course of fire used appeared to be HQC 2, with a couple of the items run in an alternative sequence, some extra holster draw and shooting steps added, and zero accomodation made for using a 5-shot revolver. To the instructor's credit, he asked me to call him Monday morning to work out some practice time and schedule requalification. I plan to do so. To be clear, while I question the course of fire mandated for my gun, I did not handle my revolver or shoot well enough to deserve to pass any test today, so I have no issue with that determination. However, even if I sort out how to make this holster work correctly, or replace it with one that does, and manage to shake off the rust with some intensive practice, I'm still not convinced I can pass the course of fire used with my 5-shot revolver without modifications to it that I'm pretty sure this instructor is not willing to make. When I call him on Monday, I plan to ask him for his candid opinion about that. If it appears that I don't have a reasonably good chance to pass his CoF with my gun, I'm not sure where I will go from there. If I need to decide between going to an entirely different gun, and giving up on my NJ CHP, right this moment I think I'd lean toward the latter option. I'll be 73 in about a month. While I do enjoy shooting, it's not an overwhelming passion for me. I am in pretty good shape for my age, but I clearly do not have the strength or stamina that I did even a few years ago. I have other demands on my time. I'm really not convinced that I want to go through the process of finding the right semi-auto, learning to use it, and practice religiously with it at this stage of my lilfe. If anyone is still interested, I'll report back here after my discussion on Monday with the instructor.

    Get a new holster, kydex IWB or OWB...try crossbreed holsters, it will make reholsetting a cinch..... and practice, your age should not be your liability, physical incapacities aside if they exist.

    We look forward to your report, and passing the qual.

     

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    And as others have said...practice....shooting effectively is a perishable skill...

     

    I shoot probably twice a month, maybe more...and while I am getting my.paperwork together I am practicing...and practicing some more...  not just for the qual, but for life.

    You CAN do this, but if you have in your mind you cannot, then you will not.

    Burn it into your mind that you can and will.do this, and practice....  

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  16. Posted

    14 hours ago, Combat Auto said:

    There are hidden agenda's here, people are selling courses and looking for customers and of course are going to be biased to the methodology they are selling...Pick a Qualifying officer that suits your SD lifestyle and beliefs and go for it. If you think getting "tested" at 25 yards is adding value to what you are already doing at the range, go for it...If you think doing something which involves more stress at overwhelming statistical "civilian" SD distances whould add more value to whatever you do now at the range go for it. Just by luck yesterday, the latter worked for me (as I already shoot 25 yards every time I go to the range)...Or maybe pick a venue which offers both of some...

    The important thing is to make your own decision, rather then listen to self proclaimed experts "wispering" in your ear on the internet as to what is best for you.

    With that I take my leave, it has been nice, I'll be back next time we have a once in a lifetime ruling from SCOTUS which has emancipated us by giving us the ability to reclaim a freedom we should never have lost. And maybe create even (more) gun related business opertunities in NJ - LOL!

    Good luck on your qual, I would expect most on the NJGF will do well wich ever approch they take.

    It has been fun,

    Adios Amigos!

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  18. Posted

    2 hours ago, 45Doll said:

    Thank you. Personally I've never heard of anyone carrying a box of ammo with them to manually reload their magazines while in the middle of a gunfight. So I'm not sure what utility that served, or what that has to do with accurately shooting a handgun.

    Gimmick?

     

     

  19. Posted

    36 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said:

    The Admin code says this:

    There are 3 options for (b) of which you need to satisfy 1. Only option 3 has anything to do with use of force training. Shooting a qualification satisfies option 2 so you don't need to prove anything to do with use of force.

    Of course it is a very good idea to make sure you know the law regarding use of force, but it is not a required part of the application.

    Thank you...!

  20. Posted

    1 hour ago, CapGuns&SnapsKid said:

    From what was said on Reddit, yes!  You receive a packet in your port ,you go over the material then sign off. Not sure of the time spent in the class.  If I didn't live so far I would go here. but Shooters is the closest to me with many reputable references ,they was also posted on the NJSP website along with GFH, so I went with them. Aug 13th!! 

    Thank you for the information - so it begs the question.

    1)  Does the material in the packet satisfy a need for a "use of force" requirement that is in the statutes?

    2)  Is this "use of force" 'class' required? Or just qualified course of fire?

    3) Are those that are NOT doing a "use of force" sign off, see those they qualified, with whatever course of fire they are using, getting things kicked back etc.?

  21. Posted

    15 hours ago, CapGuns&SnapsKid said:

    I saw this on NJGunReddit, I wonder what the other ranges and instructors qualification sheets look like. maybe we can post them up in here?! just a thought.

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    are they doing a use of force lesson?

    If so how long and what is the curricula?

  22. Posted

    44 minutes ago, maintenanceguy said:

    The right answer is that granny doesn't have to qualify at all because you don't have to pass tests to exercise constitutionally protected rights.  Unfortunately we are going to have to do what NJ is requiring if we want to stay out of jail but it is odd to me that we have people here, on a pro gun forum, advocating for more difficult tests.

    Precisely because it IS NJ, an unfriendly 2a state, where it's in your BEST INTEREST to show proficiency. 

    Also, let's be frank, if you can't figure out a flipping passport photo for your application, should you *really* be carrying a firearm?

    I know I am harping on this, but I am like holy hell batman....

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  23. Posted

    8 hours ago, Krdshrk said:

    Stu can shoot the wings off a fly at 25 yards.  Best pistol shooter I know.

    HQC1 ain't that hard.  I passed it even with stupidly rushing through the 25 yard shots.  I finished each string with like 20 seconds left.

    Must have been that Hi Power....  ;)

     

     

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  25. Posted

    1 hour ago, samiam said:

    So, because FARS institutes an unreasonable (and quite possibly, unconstitutional) standard for ptpp, do you think it is acceptable for a municipality to extend and enhance the already unreasonable bullshit that the state of NJ creates as an obstable to allowing citizens to exercise their consitutional right to bear firearms? BTW, IANAL, but I would bet that the maximum legal standard to which a reference can be held for any purpose is "to the best of my knowledge". That is doubtless one reason the documents ask references to specifiy the length of association. 

    So now your moving the goal post.....

    You want unrestricted consitutional carry....cool, all for it...will never happen in NJ....

     

    1 hour ago, samiam said:

    I don't know if you are missing my point, or evading it. My objection had nothing to do with the limitation of "best knowledge" (see my other reply). It has to do with the time interval. Suppose an applicant had a problem with alcohol from 1980 to 1983, due to, let's say, the untimely death of a young child. In 1983, this hypothetical applicant completed rehabilitiation, and has had no further such issues. That applicant could, in good faith, answer question #21 on S. P. 642 "Are you an alcoholic" in the negative. But according to the Clifton questionnaire, a witness who knew the applicant during that time would be forced to answer "Yes" to the question: "To your knowledge, has the applicant ever been an abuser of alcohol or other illicit substance", under threat of prosecution. I do not see that as acceptable, in any way, shape, or form, and I can think of no possible motivation for it other than to manufacture an excuse to dispense with an application, whether the motivation is undermining 2A, or simply deflecting "extra work". 

    Also, if "best knowledge" is the standard, prosecution of a reference if an investigation should turn up some event that the reference's attestation did not reflect, would be very difficult, if not impossible. In which case, what possible purpose could that threat on the form have other than intimidation?

    You are assuming...and you know what that means.....  

    i dont feel like arguing with you and couldnt really care less about what you think is legitimate or not....  your opinion and/mine is not the final arbiter of what is proper, improper, not intimidating, intimidating etc.

    this thread as others has been derailed....

    Maybe you should send a very strongly worded letter to Clifton telling them in your opinion they are being improper....let us know how that works out.

     

    1 hour ago, Malice4you said:

    Coincidentally, the attached screenshots were for a pistol permit for a Bloomfield resident. In years past, when I was also a reference, I got a form letter very similar to the above pictured reference letter, though I do not remember the SSN/DL requirements. In addition to that letter, I got a phone interview.

    I was told the permits were already issued for this batch, so it was less than 15 days, and I never was mailed or phoned for anything (again, pistol permits, not carry permit)

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    Thank you....maybe it was prior to FARS... 

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