Frank Thomas

Thanks for finding this reg... i plan on qualifying w/ just my .38 revolver... can't hit too good w/ my little .380

c'mon... this is way too much work to exercise a constitutionally protected right... how we keep electing these Democrat tyrants is a mystery

Thank goodness for Pres Trump & his Supreme Court appointees. By exempting retired police from gun laws, our Gov't has truly created a privileged class of people. Per the 14th Amendment, Government people can't be given rights that non-Government people don't have: 14th Amendment... "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." By writing laws that favor retired gov't employees over non-gov't employees, the anti-gun laws are not "equally protection" everyone

Be nice if the US Supreme Court allowed individuals to sue States that improperly delay the gun licensing app. I'm beginning to dislike liberals

CM, you're saying the police have 90 days to approve/deny the carry app? Is this in writing somewhere? And what happens if they go over the 90 day limit? thanks

Unfortunately, lot of gun enthusiasts... would say i can hit targets jumping on one foot... and I don't want anyone having a gun who can't fire as good as me... we may as well go back to denying everyone constitutional right to own & bear arms

Thanks... will try Shooters Sporting Center... sounds like i may be able to pass... just waiting for reloaders to arrive and then will schedule test... thanks again

124gr... thanks so much for that info... so depending on the distances... think qualifying w/ my .38 revolver is like 75-80%... with tiny .380 s&w... probably 25-35%... i'll report back if i qualify or not... thanks again

Based on some of the feedback... is it possible the army targets are different than the targets used by NJ Qualifying Course? Like in the Army, we had to hit little black silohettes on a large target ... . are the targets larger in NJ? thanks

Ex Carnival, I think some of the pro-2nd amendment folks are very responsible. Too responsible in some ways. They only want the best of the best to own a gun. And avoid an accidental shooting at all costs. It's very noble. But it's going to stop 90% of average folks from being able to own and bear arms

oldguy, good luck on your qualification...sounds like u should have no problem passing the test

correct... but i never did... the police sgt said he wouldn't even accept my application for concealed carry... then i heard of bruen & other cases... so i never tried pre-bruen

Cheflife, in all due respect, if I'm being robbed and beaten, and a good Samaritan with bad aim wants to assist me with his gun, I will gladly let him do so. I could care less if he's a perfect shot at 100m

Under Bruen, the US Supreme Court ruled any gun law has to be ". . . consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation." Being an expert shooter with a tiny handgun or requiring liability insurance or banning carry in your car or at the public park, all may have some benefit, but all have no "historical tradition." So unless the Supreme Court reads " high level of proficiency," in the 2nd Amendment, it's really unconstitutional to require such a test, imho. It's a good idea to shoot accurately. But it's not Constitutional and will be rejected by the US Supreme Court at some point, imho

In the Army, the distance to qualify with a M16 rifle was about 100 meters vs only 25 or 30m for a 9mm weapon. Why? Because the smaller the gun, the harder it is to hit a target. In any event, I'm going to try qualifying with both weapons and will probably only qualify with the Taurus .38 revolver. I also think this requirement is Unconstitutional and will eventually be ruled as such

Please realize in the Army, I was expert or right below that. My weapon was a 9mm Beretta or M16-A1. But these little .38's... really hard to hit more than few feet away. So I think I can qualify w/ my .38 revolver. Just wondering if anyone knows of an easier qualifying course than gunforhire and the others. Thanks

Am I correct that all qualifying ranges require 80% to pass? So I have to fire 50 rounds and hit 40? Or are there any ranges w/ easier requirements? I plan on qualifying with a Taurus .38 revolver and a tiny smith & wessson .380 handgun w/ a 6-round clip. When I go to the range, at about 30 yards, I can hit targets about 50% of the time w/ the .38 revolver. But only about 10% of the time w/ the tiny .380. There's no way I can hit 80% with either gun. Here's my questions: #1 - Is it possible the range will give me a certificate even if I don't hit 40 of 50 rounds? And #2 - Should I just try qualifying with the .38 revolver since the permits hopefully won't list what weapons I'm licensed to carry? Thanks

What training is acceptable? Instructions from Monroe Twp, NJ merely say "Written qualification must be within six (6) months of application and include Instructors Name"... I think this is really a bogus requirement. I think NJ can reject applicants by saying the training is insufficient. The qualifyin schools, such as www.shootingclasses.com ... seem to have a variety of courses. In summary, how do we know exactly what school and cert would qualify for a CCW permit? Thanks

I mean after the Bruen decisioin. Have applicants for concealed carry been getting approved or denied? What do the applicants attribute their approval or denial to? Thanks

Can applicants for concealed carry please state what happened to your application? Were you approved for concealed carry or denied? If denied, what was the reason why denied? And am I correct no formal training certificate required? Reason for wanting actual experiences is b/c too much conflicts on the requirements. Thanks

Does anyone know if I can now apply for concealed carry in NJ? Very confusing. The form, "State of NJ - APPLICATION FOR PERMIT TO CARRY A HANDGUN..." appears to not have been updated. As an illustrative example, there's no mention about weapons training. And the form is dated "03/15." So how do I apply to carry a weapon post-Supreme Court ruling? And has anyone in NJ applied and been approved under the new Supreme Court ruling? Thanks

Gov Murphy is doing everything he can to not comply with the Supreme Court's 2A decision. The requirements and restrictions are clearly unconstituional. Let's hope the pro-2nd Amendment groups, such as NRA and FPC, sue for compliance. Imagine if anyone trying to exercise any other Constiutional right faced these hurdles, such as free speech and freedom of religion, the courts would step in right away. 2nd Amendment is now recognized as being on par with the rest of the Bill of Rights by the US Supreme Court. Really hope the courts force NJ to comply on an expedited basis.

KMA, thanks... nj is pitiful... hoping for good news next supreme court session

Michael, i read the brief on the lawsuit w/ the supreme court... one of the reasons NJ gave for outlawing guns outside the home was kind of what u said... by the time u got your gun... it would be too late. So makes sense about not drawing a gun if you don't have time. I have too much in NJ to just leave the State.

Bob A., thanks... he's probably former law enforcement... will be interesting to hear back