Shane45

Or do what I did. Walk in. Ask to see the manager. Hand it to him. Explain why your no longer a customer. Demand they not communicate with you any further.

Let me be the first to fire a volley of the emotional/propaganda war. And someone needs to make me a meme! To all you school kids protesting: If you were for Harry Potter in The Order of the Phoenix you are ideologically for the NRA If you were for Dolores Umbridge, then you ideologically sided with the anti 2A liberal left.

Consider me in both camps. But not out of a low cap rifle for real world engagements as was stated.

No matter how much good will our side does it wont change anything.

Agreed! Mark the calendar, we agrees on something

Perhaps we should start lobbying for the Catholic religion to be the only approved religion. If you want to be any other religion you will need to register and pay a Tax. The Asbury park press will be the only approved news paper. If you want to run any other kind of news paper you will need to register and pay a yearly fee. But all articles will need to be approved and there will be a fee for those too. And if you die you will not be able to pass your business on to your heirs.

My constitutional rights are not for debate. It is not for the loud minority of sheeple to control. There is only 1 way to protect them in NJ. Money, layers and legal wins.......

The point for me about mag limits in NJ is that it is proof positive of incremental gun control. If you just trim back to 15 we can all live with that. If you just trim back to 10 we can all live with that. If you just trim back to...?....... we can all live with that.

8 Rounds of 30-06 isnt ideal? LOL Even the LR guys were picking the 5.56 over M14's. I guess Cap never seen the vid of Travis Haily wacking Hadji's at 600 yds with his AR.

Old design military ball is the effectiveness issue. Improved by rounds like Mk318.

SR25 FAR exceeds your max price.

Well not to continue to add to your sensitivity, but that wasnt the question in my opinion. I also add that i still disagree. If the seating position of one person in a vehicle is good for that person to fully press the gas, but is to far for another person to fully press the gas, it doesnt matter if the cars top speed is 168 mpg. Person 2 will not achieve it. This is actually a true statement. "You need to get your own so you can achieve your full potential. " Which drives the question of if person 2 is seeking full potential or is just having fun. If fun for #2 is the goal, then your probably ok if its not grossly different.

Perhaps we use a bit different terminology. I dont consider some of these "comfort" items. For example, eye box. Not really a comfort thing so much as it is being set up correctly to function. I pick my scope position on my rail, for example, by finding my NPA shooting prone and then I find it shooting sitting. Then I split the difference between the two so that I can have a good eyebox for different positions. Many people set up their scope for the bench and then cant figure out why they are all out of sorts when they go prone.

Parallax is not the only issue. Eyebox, NPA etc etc are all issues. This is what makes sharing difficult IF your both trying to achieve bug hole precision for extended shooting sessions. If she has to crane her neck or completely pull out of a NPA it will affect the results. This could be aided by an adjustable stock but, I cant stand changing any of my settings once its right for me. Hell it takes me forever to get my seat right in my truck after an oil change done by a midget let alone the super duper amount of adjustment of a stock system.

Yes right now it will be pretty close. The SR25 will still be more right now but the way 17 prices are skyrocketing it may be different by tomorrow.

In weight or price?

They both have their merits. Although one of the big features of the SCAR is negated in NJ. Both of these rifles are the pinnacle of the 308 platform. If I wanted to favor precision id go with the SR25. If I wanted to run a 308 like an M4 I might favor the SCAR. The KAC was always big money but now the 17 is too. There are version of the SR25 I dont really care for. Its the EMC and successor line thats the heat. You can tell by the dimpled barrel. But your going to be in for near 6k.

At first blush it looks like it would fit BUT I am not well versed in the .22 clone versions. So I respectfully step aside to let someone else better informed on that format to weigh in.

Lambo, I dont particularly disagree with you. However, any real preventative solution is a looong looong ways off if even ever achievable due to the liberal left/progressives needing to protect every snowflake at the expense of everyone else's kids. So in that interim, intervention is the only real solution available. Indeed as Zeke has alluded too, just about every effective security program I have ever been involved in is a layered approach.

Ok well its a walther replica of a g36 in .22 so none of those mags will work.

I dont see it as an expansion. I see it as being retasked with things that matter. Unrelated to the topic at hand, im sick of the overflowing drugs in schools so i see it as a potential dual benefit. But your oversimplification of the problem and contrasting accidents indicates to me that you dont believe there is an actual problem with schools being targeted. Should we pull all USSS from the capital? Theres only been a handful of incidents over the years. Handyman, my comments are directed at Cap who indicated that armed teachers was enough of a solution. " I think allowing teachers to be armed is more than enough."

cap14k, why what is your reasoning behind not putting police in schools? Its not being scared of the boogey man. Its eliminating the one eyed jacks in a room full of blind people scenario. Armed teachers is NOT enough. You expect a teach who is armed is going to leave their classroom full of kids unprotected to go seek an active shooter?

Its been a LOOOOONG time so check my info for accuracy but your not buying a G36. Your buying an SL8. So I think you really need SL8 mags unless a conversion is performed to it.

Feel free to distribute accordingly

Posting this in its own thread as it seems timely. Why are we allowing the liberal left to determine the narrative and course of action in protecting our children? We clearly accept armed protection in many facets of our society. We pay men to carry guns to protect pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters being transported from stores to banks as well as deposits. We accept armed guards in banks. We accept armed guards to protect famous people and politicians. We accept high police presence in major events. We accept armed security in jewelry stores. Yet public schools that are clearly suffering from being targeted remain largely unprotected. Why is that? I have had a number of police officers relay stories to me on how they were picking up or dropping off their kids to school in uniform and were in some cases asked, in others told, they were not welcome on school grounds while in uniform and carrying a weapon as it made some staff members uncomfortable. Add all the gun free school zone rhetoric and all the resistance to police and armed security in schools and it becomes clear that the liberal left bias is what is keeping our schools from being properly protected. Why are we tolerating the least qualified group to assess and mitigate the risk to our children? My lawyer doesn’t prescribe me medication and I don’t ask my doctor to do my taxes! Is it better if our kids are stabbed to death or blown up instead of being shot? Countries like Japan and China have suffered school killing sprees at the hands of evil men with knives that rival the number dead in American school shootings. Many are completely unaware that Columbine was planned as a bombing. Those two perpetrators had planned to bomb the cafeteria at lunch and then detonate a line of explosives out front specifically directed at the police, fire and ems first responders. So that would indicate to me that focusing all this energy on gun control is a complete waste of time and effort. Not to mention that Columbine was perpetrated with pistols, shotguns and a pistol caliber carbine. See something say something? Clearly that isn’t working either! Case after case reveals everyone said something to include to the top Law Enforcement agency in the country! The evidence is already in front of everyone. People and systems will fail. Other people will never trigger the system to begin with! Look up John David LaDue for a case study of a threat that could have easily went undetected if it weren’t for a timely glance out of a window. Is arming teachers and faculty the answer? In my opinion it is not. To me it is a half measure. I believe that people should have the right to defend themselves. However, armed faculty are not going to have a duty to run towards the sound of gunfire! There may be a few that think that way but I don’t think that will be the vast majority. Why are we exploring half measures instead of embracing the fact that the only way to protect unarmed people is with armed people assigned to their protection! This is evident everywhere else in our society. I would think that every town in America has the ability to add to its police force and assign them to their schools. This might actually help with the drug problems that seem to be affecting just about every school in America as well. But Im not talking about adding 1 person for 3700 students. Clearly no risk and response analysis went on there! But this would cost money. Is that an issue? Are we going to spend money to protect money and valuables but we as a society are unwilling to spend money to protect children? I don’t think that’s the case. My conclusion is that we have fallen short of putting the correct response in place because we cant get past hurting the feelings of the liberal left that have infested the school systems. I don’t want to hear their cries about creating a police state in schools. I don’t want to hear one more stupid plan to have all the kids throw books or soup cans at an assailant! I don’t want to hear about teachers having a session in school with nerf guns to work out their own strategies. I hate to inform the faculty but the fact of the matter is that every kid with an X-Box has more tactical prowess than the vast majority of teachers at any school. I want to hear from experts that have a proven track record of providing actual security. Does it sit right with everyone that all of congress operates in an armed, protected environment but it’s unthinkable by many of these politicians to provide any armed security for our children? In my opinion, this is why NOTHING has changed. The evidence is overwhelming that banning anything never solves anything or actually protects anyone. Banning only insures that the bad guys are better armed than the law abiding good guys. Lets not forget that a good guy with an AR15 stopped the church shooter in Texas. You CAN’T ban evil determination. I will be just as heartbroken for every child killed by a gun, a bomb, a knife, a sword, or a gallon of gas. I want them protected from as many threats as possible with someone capable of providing that protection. The time for allowing the liberal left to determine the protection for everyone’s children needs to end! We need to counter the bleating of the liberal left with a solid loud voice of logic, reason and something that will certainly be more effective. The much vilified NRA is the only organization Im aware of that actually studied the security issue and submitted professionally derived plans against such tragedies. Im not aware of any effort put forth by organizations like the Brady Campaign or any similar organization.