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Too bad you don't know what you're talking about.

Exactly!

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So much SIG love on this forum.

The G19 is still unmatched for a pistol of that size, performance, and track record. The new CZ may be a viable competitor. Time will tell.

I'm perfectly fine with the factory Glock sights. The reason is, no serious shooter really cares, as that will be changed regardless. In fact, I wish more production guns came crappy plastic sights if it keeps costs lower. With the plethora of great aftermarket sight choices, there isn't a stock factory sight worth bothering with.

Glock...history of being reliable and helped pave the way for what striker fired polymer pistols being the current standard. The only striker pistols that are at least equal (and maybe better in some regards) are the VP9 and PPQ. The jury is still out on the CZ P10, but it shows promise. Sorry, the M&P, any modern SIG, or xD series don't belong in the same category. Also, who cares about the stock sights on a Glock. Most serious shooters change sights on ANY pistol. There is not a single factory sight I would happily use.

Ever consider the SIRT pistol? Completely safe (just don't aim the laser in anyone's eyes), and lets you work on draw strokes and trigger pulls. Good for some force on force drills too, though blue guns are probably better if you plan to get really physical with hand to hand stuff.

Go for it!

No your question makes no sense at all. I'm very comfortable with gun safety rules, so I have no problem answering any valid question. Unfortunately, just like all of your other posts, your question was just full of convulsions and nonsense. Just to simplify this, trigger finger off until you consciously decide to fire. Muzzle pointed in as safe a direction as possible. People end up violating 1 out of those 2 rules at times (such as SWAT entries...very difficult not to sweep a teammate or yourself at times). You can't violate both rules. Btw, Google Ken Hackathorn's snake drill. I've run that drill in his class with no issues. Have you? You wouldn't even be allowed to participate in that drill without solid fundamentals.

Your question makes no sense and has no real world application. I nearly got a headache just reading it. And you're right, it's not likely I'll run into you. First it's doubtful you even train, and second, I tend to take classes from the most reputable trainers who expect us to have big boy rules ingrained already.

Cool, rock on dude! Glad that you consider handling firearms to be a low risk activity. Just do us a favor. If you ever sign up for a class, please let us know. That way, if I ever happen to be enrolled in the same class, I'll know to look out for you, so that I can stand on the opposite end of the firing line.

Wtf are you talking about???

Also, the fact that you said "playing with it" already tells me you have the improper mindset when it comes to weapons. Nobody who is responsible "plays" with their guns. I treat my gums like they are capable of taking another life at ALL times. No exceptions. Doesn't mean I'm not 100% confident that my gun is currently not loaded. I don't check for an unloaded weapon so I can't point it wherever. I do that so I can safely perform administrative tasks, and maybe to dry fire in a safe direction. Even after checking a gun to be sure it is empty, I still only point it at something I can live with being destroyed. That means I don't point it at any wall when I'm not sure what's beyond it. The reason for this is to ingrain safe habits. No matter how much you trust yourself, you are not perfect. The day could come where you are distracted and forget a step in your safety checks. Not to mention, habits carry over, so when you do carry with a live round, you will be used to treating a gun appropriately. Also, you may be sure your gun is loaddd but what if someone else walks in the room and sees you pointing a real gun at them? Definitely won't sit well with them.

So based on that reasoning, it should be ok to point real guns at each other. After all, we should trust ourselves to ensure the gun is not loaded, and since a round can't magically appear in the chamber, it should be good to go right?

I concur with BullzeyeNJ. The SIRT is a great training tool. In fact, I bring it to the range with me pretty often just so I can work on fundamentals in between live fire. Also, to say the SIRT has no value to you because you don't shoot a Glock is like saying you can't go to Skip Barber to learn track racing techniques because they put you in a Mazda track car, but you drive a Nissan. Shooting fundamentals are shooting fundamentals...doesn't matter what gun you shoot. Sure, we all have a preferred action or trigger, but the mechanics should all be the same. Ever wonder why all the top shooters can pick up your gun, and still outshoot you?

You weren't kidding when you said you have to get the last word in. Even if it means you have to start rambling in circles. My only question is why do you even bother posting questions if you have it all figured out for yourself? Sounds like there is no convincing you that the SIRT or blue gun has any value, so why not just drop that discussion? Also, don't show me any quotes from thetruthaboutguns. Not exactly the most credible source.

Again you are overthinking this way too much. Let go of the Newtonian logic. Remember, Newton reportedly died a virgin! It's so simple. It's much easier to find a safe direction to point the gun when safety checking or chambering a round than it is to practice draws, room clears, etc. Seriously, stop thinking of trivial matters, sign up for a class, and buy a SIRT pistol. Much better use of your time!

Newtonian, I think you are going way off on a tangent at this point, and confusing yourself. It's very simple....just forget all the conditions. Carry a modern striker fired gun with a round in the chamber, a DA/SA with the hammer down (decocked) on a live chamber, and 1911 or Hi-Power cocked and locked. Learn proper trigger finger discipline. And this does not mean keeping your finger straight resting on the trigger guard. Your finger needs to be pointed 45º up, touching the slide. It was Ken Hackathorn who taught me that years ago at a class, and that good habit has been ingrained in me since. Like HE said, enroll in a good class, learn the fundamentals of drawing from a holster, getting good hits on target, shooting on the move, reloading, and safely re-holstering first. Once you have all that down, then maybe consider participating in one of those gun games like IDPA. And just pony up and get the blue gun or SIRT pistol so you can practice at home. Yes, I'm confident in my safety steps prior to handling any pistol, and I know a round won't somehow appear in my chamber. However, I make it a point to always be aware of my muzzle, and being that my kids may be in one part of the house while my wife is in another, I stand a good chance of having a muzzle pointed in the direction of a loved one anytime I am practicing techniques at home. Pointing a firearm in the direction of my family members with only dry wall in between is something I'm never going to feel good about, even knowing that the gun is empty. oldguysrule649, as HE suggested, I strongly suggest looking into a class from Joe Riedy of Sights and Trigger, if you can make the drive just over the PA border. You will get much better training than at GFH, and from a trainer with solid experience. Furthermore, you are getting far more bang per buck. $175 for an 8 hour class taught by someone with solid credntials, vs GFH who charges around $200 for a 4 hour class. You decide.

You are forgetting a key component when it comes to the classic definition of carrying in condition 0. That designation usually applies to 1911s, or if you were to cock a DA/SA gun and leave it like that. 1911 triggers have a very short take up in comparison to Glocks, or even modern striker fired guns where the striker is completely pulled back, such as the PPQ or VP9. Regarding the blue gun argument, the weight difference argument is pretty weak. You aren't handicapping yourself by practicing safe holster draws using a lighter version of your actual gun. For one thing, you're not practicing for the sake of shaving .1sec of your draw time. You use a blue gun to initially learn safe drawing and re-holstering habits, and eventually use it to work on some combatitives training. If it makes you feel that much better though, get a SIRT pistol. You have the weight of an actual pistol, plus the ability to practice dry fires with it.

Spot on about the class. It was definitely one of the best 2 days of instruction I have received, and like BullzeyeNJ, I have also trained with some of the top tier trainers out there today. Kyle is great at not only passing on information, but also explaining the WHY behind it, and backing it up with data or observations from real world experience. Although a hardened combat vet, he is also a super-chill guy, and will treat everyone as his equal. Here are just some of the highlights for me... 25 yard shooting - Sure, we all try it here and there, but how many of us really practice it regularly to meet a certain standard? We spent a good block of time on this, way more than any other class I've been to. He gave us a few techniques on how to get better hits under a time constraint. A zone hits at 7-10 yard - Actually, smaller than A zone on the chest...different techniques used depending on if you are going for the chest or the credit card sized head area. Shooting behind cover - Not done enough in many classes, and likely not taught correctly. Kyle gave us a few simple concepts to minimize exposure and still get good hits. Combat trauma - as BullzeyeNJ said, most people absolutely need to hear this portion. I notice a huge trend today of people carrying IFAKs. Problem is, many people probably don't know the proper application of a tourniquet or a hemostatic agent. This is especially true of hemostatic agents. Quick hint...a hemostatic agent is not to be used for just any open wound. There's actually a very narrow spectrum of wounds you actually would use them on. You may actually cause more harm if you are not aware of this. This lesson was a real eye opener. I say this as an ER nurse and EMT too, just so you don't think I'm praising Kyle's instruction as a fanboy. Combatives - I've spent some time doing martial arts (BJJ), so usually, I'm not a big believer in a short self defense module being effective. Essentially, to be good at fighting, you need to put in the time on the mat or ring and actually do some hard sparring against various opponents. However, Kyle gave us a few very simple techniques that can be easily learned. They rely very much on gross motor skills and basic motions that you can easily practice at home. Same goes for the blade work. After taking this class, I definitely want to followup with some more instruction on the blade. Which leads to... Blade selection - Pure gold! Kyle went over some various choices of knives out there, and what features to look for when selecting a knife. Another hint that you may or may not have heard...folding knives are just a broken blade with a pin holding them together

New gun day for me yesterday. After years of wanting this, I finally picked it up. Wilson Combat 1911 CQB in 9mm, with the following features... Armor-Tuff, Black Frame / Black Slide Battlesight with red fiber optic front Bulletproof one piece magwell with round butt Countersunk slide stop Rear of slide serratted at 40 lpi Flush cut barrel with reverse crown Medium length trigger Omit slide markings, except for WC logo on right rear Put 300 flawless rounds through it yesterday for the break in. Shoots like a dream!

Looking forward to training with D4!

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It's 2016. People are STILL even giving the SERPA any serious consideration?