JohnnyB

I wonder how long it will take MidwestPX to make 10/30s and next year 5/30s????

I feel the same way! SCOTUS will not let us down lest they undermine the Second Amendment for all in the U.S.A.

OG, Why will this bill be useless if the mag bill passes? I thought the Senate bill further defines the Assembly mag cap limit as to not include tube fed 22s. I'm confused!

Just got this in my Email @ 2:10 PM Today!!! ?????? MAG BAN IS REALLY A GUN BAN! Direct Attack On Gun Owners, Hunters and Sportsmen Would Ban Popular American .22 Rifles! Would Turn Current Owners Into Felons - Up to TEN YEARS in Prison No Grandfathering, No Amnesty "Confiscate, Confiscate, Confiscate" A2006 = GUN BAN Anti-gun legislators' attempt to ban ammunition magazines over 10 rounds (A2006) is a lot more than "just" a magazine ban. It's also a gun ban that would outlaw some of the most popular .22 rifles in the United States, turn their owners into felons, and force them to abandon their property or go to jail for as long as ten years - essentially a confiscation. Whether by stealth or stupidity, A2006 (scheduled to be heard in Assembly committee on Monday, March 3), would make the following change to existing law: "'Assault Firearm' means...A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 10 rounds." This change would flat-out ban many common and popular tube-fed .22 rifles, including the partial list of guns that would be banned at the bottom of this alert. Those in possession of these popular guns would be turned into felons overnight for possession of so-called "assault" firearms - a second degree crime in New Jersey carrying up to ten years in prison, with a minimum mandatory sentence of 3-5 years, with no chance of parole. A2006 contains no grandfathering to protect current owners, and no amnesty period or procedure for current owners who wish to comply (in ironic contradiction to the legislature's creation of a limited "assault" firearms amnesty period in 2013, which has since expired). Existing owners would be thrown to the wolves - forced to abandon their property or go to prison - a form of confiscation. Although NJ's anti-gun legislators have long denied any intention to confiscate firearms, their true intentions were exposed last year in shocking "hot mic" comments between legislators after a gun control hearing, in which they stated their wish to "confiscate, confiscate, confiscate" firearms. A2006 MAGAZINE BAN Less hidden in A2006 than the gun ban, is its stated purpose: to ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. This is based on the naïve and false assumption that removing a particular type of tool from society will somehow make everyone safer. Those bent on doing evil will not be stopped or deterred just because a particular tool becomes less available or unavailable. If box cutters could bring down the World Trade Center, does anyone really believe that banning box cutters will stop the next terrorist attack? The same is true of firearms - banning a particular tool will not deter someone who is determined to do evil. Also, criminals and madmen don't follow magazine bans, or any other type of ban for that matter. Criminals laugh at laws that target hardware. Only law-abiding citizens are affected by hardware bans, because they're the only ones that follow them. The net effect is that the law-abiding are put at a disadvantage against the lawless. The only thing that criminals understand is severe punishment. Even if a magic wand could be waved in the land of anti-gun fantasy and remove all 10+ round magazines from the planet, no one would be made any safer, because magazines can be changed very quickly. The theory that a magazine change provides an opportunity to "tackle" an assailant is unsound and unsupported by the weight of the evidence. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that police owe no duty to protect individual citizens from harm, which means that citizens are on their own in an emergency and cannot rely on 911. Yet rather than enhance the ability of citizens to defend themselves when an emergency or home invasion strikes, A2006 would instead tie their hands and put them at a disadvantage against criminals who will ignore the magazine ban. Magazine bans are also completely arbitrary and their logic, if followed, have the potential to lead to a complete ban on all rounds. The idea that an eleventh round is somehow more lethal than the tenth is absurd, and the exact same logic could be applied to a second round in relation to the first, or even the first round itself. The Constitutional right of self-defense is sacrosanct, and a magazine ban directly and significantly interferes with that right. NOTE: A2777 (reasonable deviations in firearms transportation) has still not been posted online. We will have comment on that legislation when it becomes available. PLEASE IMMEDIATELY TELL MEMBERS OF THE ASSEMBLY LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO DEFEAT THE A2006 GUN BAN AND MAGAZINE BAN! Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31) [email protected] Phone: 201-536-7851 Fax: 201-536-7854 Gilbert L. Wilson (Vice Chair) (D5) [email protected] Phone: 856-547-4800 Fax: 856-547-5496 Joseph Cryan (D20) [email protected] Phone: 908-624-0880 Fax: 908-624-0587 Gregory P. McGuckin (R10) [email protected] Phone: 732-840-9028 Fax: 732-840-9757 Erik Peterson (R23) [email protected] Phone: 908-238-0251 Fax: 908-238-0256 Nancy J. Pinkin (D18) [email protected] Phone: 732-548-1406 Fax: 732-548-1623 David P. Rible (R30) [email protected] Phone: 732-974-0400 Fax: 732-974-2564 Shavonda E. Sumter (D35) [email protected] Phone: 973-925-7061 Fax: 973-925-7067 THE BAN LIST FOLLOWING IS A PARTIAL LIST OF THE SEMI-AUTO .22 RIFLES* THAT WOULD BE BANNED BY A2006: Browning Auto .22 Rifles Browning Auto-22 Rifle Browning Auto-22 Grade VI Browning BAR .22 Auto Rifle Browning SA-22 Semi-Auto 22 Rifle CBC N66 Auto rifle Glenfield Model 40 rifle Lakefield Arms Model 64B Auto Rifle Marlin Glenfield 60 rifle Marlin 552 BDL rifle Marlin Model 60 Self Loading Rifles Marlin Model 60C Marlin Model 60SB Marlin Model 60S-CF Marlin Model 60SN Marlin Model 60ss Self-Loading Rifle Marlin Model 60 SSK rifle Marlin Model 60 DLX rifle Marlin Glenfield 75C rifle Marlin Model 795 Marlin Model 795SS Marlin Model 922 Magnum Self-Loading Rifle Marlin 990 rifle Marlin Model 990l Self-Loading Rifle Marlin Model 995 Self-Loading Rifle Mossberg 377 Plinkster rifle Mossberg 702 Plinkster Mossberg - Other Variants Norinco Model 22 ATD Rifle Remington 552 rifle Remington 552A rifle Remington 552BDL Speedmaster Rifle Remington Model 522 Viper Autoloading Rifle Remington Nylon 66 rifle Remington Nylon 66AB rifle Remington Nylon 66 Savage 990DL rifle Stevens 987-T rifle Taurus Model 63 rifle Weatherby Mark XXII Tubular rifle Winchester 190 Winchester 290 Winchester- Other Variants *LEGAL NOTE FROM EVAN NAPPEN: New Jersey takes the position that tube-fed semi-auto .22 rifles that hold rounds in excess of the legal limit are "assault firearms" under New Jersey law. This was affirmed by the State Supreme Court in the infamous Pelleteri case, in which a citizen was convicted of possession of a Marlin model 60 .22 caliber rifle.. Forward this email This email was sent to [email protected] by [email protected] | Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™ | Privacy Policy. ANJRPC | PO Box 353 | Pompton Plains | NJ | 07444

I give up with the infighting. PS. They don't make Pampers in my size!

Many are willing to put their money where their mouth is but only a select few, say around 3 percent have made the hard decision to possibly give their lives to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic! An oath I swore when I joined the U.S. Armed Forces. I was never told on separation from the military that I was no longer to be held to that oath! Until I am told otherwise, I will uphold that oath as I am still bound by it. MOΛΩN ΛΑBE may be used by some keyboard patriots but don't ever think that some TRUE patriots don't exist!!! Moral of the story, MOΛΩN ΛΑBE may be used by some as a punchline, but there are those of us who believe it should be our battle cry on this forum. At any rate, I think it's unfair to resort to name calling upon fellow members of this forum who share our beliefs and are here to help our cause! P.S. I am NOT a keyboard patriot and I don't own a tinfoil hat!

Of course I was kidding. I was only trying to emphasize the lack of gun knowledge by the people who write our gun laws.

They finally figured out that .22 rimfire is not dangerous. Why limit capacity on a .22??? No one was ever killed with a .22. I feel that a legislator should not be allowed to vote on a topic that he or she has absolutely no knowledge of!!! If a politician knows nothing about guns, how the hell can they pass laws restricting them??? They should have training and demonstrate a good working knowledge before being allowed to vote against something they know nothing about. I doubt I will get a CCW without first proving my knowledge and ability with a gun. Yet they can vote against my right for CCW without any proven knowledge whatsoever!!!

And just what should I do with the crap load of 15 round magazines I now have if this passes? I can't sell them anywhere in the free states that allows 30! I am so tired of this crap......I destroyed all of my 30s......If they want my 15s, this time it's going to be.................................. MOΛΩN ΛΑBE !!!!!!!!!

Okay, Now I have anther question, My whateveritis is only pinned but not welded. Is that legal???

Thanks for the help! I was worried there for a second.........I mean HE was worried!

It has a wood stock but how can I tell if it's a K-Mini-14/5 F and Mini-14/5 RF??? I assume these are banned even with a normal stock?

Here it is. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/773ixmnpw8myei3/VtfFmoYAsl

So a flash suppressor is legal in the PRNJ on a Mini 14 without a pistol grip? I know he has the factory stock and no other modifications.

I have a friend, a really great guy! He has a stainless Mini 14 with a device pinned at the end of the barrel. He bought the rifle about 20 years ago, before all of the new laws and does not remember what the device was called when he bought it and put it on the end of his barrel. I told him it looked like a flash hider to me and that he could be a felon in the PRNJ with such a device. I looked up pictures on the net and saw his device labeled brake in one picture and hider in another. Please tell me which it is since meeting BUBBA is not on his bucket list!!! I don't know how to post an image here but I would if pointed in the right direction...........Thanks!

Okay, I just joined up!

This opens a Pandora's box for those in CT that did not register. Say they are pulled over for a simple traffic stop on the way to a range and for whatever reason the LEOs find one of these unregistered AW's. Do they arrest the guy and charge him with a felony, or let him go since there may be 100,000 or more just like him and CT does not have the resouces to prosecute and jail that many? After all, they are just exercising their Constitutional rights. I'll never understand how states have the right to usurp our rights under the Constitution. I assume they hide behind the word INTERPRETATION!

+1 MOΛΩN ΛΑBE

Ryan, We should type it using the Greek letters MOΛΩN ΛΑBE or even μολὼν λαβέ (ancient Greek) this way the libtards won't know how to pronounce it. Many thanks to the smart ones who did not register! Your guns will not be confiscated and you will have to stand and fight for the lemmings that stood in line to comply only to inevitably have their guns taken from them!

+10,000 I'm gonna start looking for a holster! Just window shopping for now though!!!

+1 No bad snowstorm this weekend. You heard it here first!

I gave up. I am not doing this, just too risky in this stupid state! Thank you all for your advice.

Okay, you just talked me out it!!! Damned PRNJ, we all have to be afraid of everything.

That is because I respect your opinions. Actually, I don't have any reservations about my office staff. It's all about the transport and purpose.

If I am within the law, what is the peril risk???