NJGF

They need 60 votes to overcome a Senate filibuster. A very steep wall.

This is starting to look like the votes to repeal Obamacare. It's easy to vote now when it is not going to get passed the other house. Ugh.

I didn't think is was as they don't have the votes.

Well there was vote that was bipartisan today: 354 to 58 members voted today to table the motion to impeach Trump.

I try but this is NJ we live in. I'll try harder.

They are now debating the actual bill for an hour. This is just the house so when it passes it goes to the Senate and needs 60 votes to overcome a filibuster which they don't have.

But can one have a loaded shotgun mag in their trunk? Not wanting to re-litigate this issue but some will not do this and in that case a tube fed shotgun is faster than most long guns to get in the action.

I believe drivers licenses are state issued and not controlled by the federal government. There is a compact agreement between all of the states where they accept out of state licenses and exchange data between the states. It was started in the 1960's. There are some exceptions such as with learner's permits which some states have different age restrictions for.

Sorry, my attempt at humor. Sorry the following is long but I am not sure I am getting my point across in previous posts (although I might be and then we can chose to disagree). When the COTUS was written it was to protect the states and the people against an overreaching federal government. They didn't want to go back to a king. The bill of rights was only to protect us against the federal government. State constitutions protect our rights from each state. If we don't like what a state is doing (like NJ, etc) we can freely move to another state. These states we consider free have sections in their state constitutions that do protect our right to keep and bear arms. Later after the civil war we passed the 14th amendment which allow "some" of the rights that we are protected against from the federal government to also protect us against the state governments. Heller/McDonald did that with our 2A rights at least in our homes at this point. That is why no state (or DC) can take away our right to own firearms in our homes. One day we may get a decision that does the same with our right to carry arms outside our home. But so far SCOTUS has not been willing to take one of these cases (or the ones that do want to take the case feel they will not get the needed 5 votes for it to succeed). I just don't see why this is a constitutionally protected 2A case. We all have a protected right to free speech but each state or city can require us to get permits to hold rally's. A not so great analogy would be to get a permit to hold a rally in PA and expect NJ to honor it. The fundamental issue that doesn't get solved with H.R. 38 is do we have a constitutionally protected right to carry arms outside our homes? This attempts an end run around the issue. I just don't see how this will pass a constitutional test. The CCW permits are state issued permits. Each state sets their own requirements. Each state decides which other states permits have reciprocity in their state based upon their own criteria. The federal government has IMHO no business telling the states anything about CCW permits. The federal government cannot tell each state to accept other states drivers licenses as it is up to each state to decide this. Again a not so good analogy as the right to drive is not a constitutionally projected right. But so far SCOTUS has not said that carrying a firearm outside our home is a constitutionally protected right.

Yes, but apparently not as many as non-citizens these days.

If this ultimately goes to SCOTUS it will not be on 2A grounds (which they very well might lose). This is a usurpation by the Federal Government of states rights.I would be interesting in seeing a constitutional lawyer discuss this issue.

I though the COTUS was there to protect the states and the people from the Federal Government. The rights in the bill of rights are only protected against the Federal Government. States could do as they pleased at least at the signing of the COTUS. It wasn't until the 14th amendment that some of the rights started being incorporated against the states.

They can't The Roberts court said it is just a tax (lol)

Under what constitutional authority can the federal government force a state to accept the CCW of another state. I want this as much as anyone else but I'm not sure getting it passed is the end. This will be challenged by all of the anti-gun states. This is not an enumerated right in the constitution. That leaves the right to the states. If this gets overturned then we are left with 1/2 of our so called compromise: more gun control. IMHO (with nothing) the only way we get CCW is when the second amendment right to carry a firearm outside the home is recognized by SCOTUS and makes it the law of the land. After Heller/MdDonald no state now bans firearms in the home any longer which was an amazing victory. I want this as much as anyone and have contacted my rep and give money to all of the gun rights orgs. Just trying to be realistic.

So I just saw a photo of a NJ CCW (assuming it is real) and the title says "License To Carry A Firearm Concealed". So it might not be in the law but the permit seems to make open carry illegal.

They didn't have anything but...I could swear that I saw that open carry was legal in NJ (with a CCW) but the app says it is illegal. If it is on the internet it must be true though.

That is very cool!

According to the CCW app you can't carry in educational institutions and Casino's. If one is traveling between a bunch of states then make sure they allow the # of rounds in your mags. For example CT is 10 and NJ is 15 (until January when it goes to 3-4 ;-)

I have never seen a mag fed shotgun run reliably but I am hoping that Remington built a winner here.

I don't think NJ restricts open carry. If you have a permit to carry you can either open or conceal carry. At least legally that is true and the side effect is you will get to know lots of NJ Leo's up close and personal :-) Update: I am not sure this statement is true so take it for what you paid for it. I searched for a NJ CCW and it included the word concealed. A couple of years ago I saw one in person but don't have any idea about the wording on it.

Does anyone really want to support a bill that is embraced by Chuck and Diane. We need to be patient. Unfortunately that could take our lifetimes. But it is not worth going down a rabbit hole not knowing where it is leading. NICS can be fixed without any new legislation. We should support H.R. 38 as a standalone bill. If we don't have the votes yet then so be it. Don't vote for any politician that didn't support it. Call and/or contact your representative in the House today. And if we want to be free we should leave NJ (I know it is not so easily done because of family and jobs).

I guess alcohol use is next.

The letters are interesting but will they go door to door?

I like your volcano eruption. Its a good way of looking at the value of anything. I'm not sure I see the need for bitcoin. If I want to be anonymous I can currently pay with cash. But it seems like the latest craze. Some people will make lots of money and others will lose money. Reminds me of Dutch Tulips.

The movie is Red. This is a very cool movie. Here is a little bit more of the scene: