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  1. @45Doll, @67gtonut, @JohnnyB, @Pizza Bob, @NJRulz & @GRIZ and others: FYI - Now here is a truly amazing, intriguing and very touching car story about what arguably IMHO, could and should be considered one of “the last forgotten muscle cars”…. It is the story of a car referred to as “The Black Ghost” – a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T SE with a 426 Hemi Engine, ordered new in triple black colors by Godfrey Qualls, a decorated U.S. Army paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne, then Green Beret, who served in Vietnam, who later became a motorcycle cop, married, then a father, who street raced this car in Detroit in the 1970’s and beat everyone he raced. (Also, there is an interesting sidebar story regarding the Shaker Hood….) The car has survived and this YouTube video is the compelling story about the car, its owner and its ultimate fate…. Enjoy AVB-AMG
  2. @Downtownv: The cleaners suggested by others above for the most part work fine, so this really is a matter of personal preference. Some folks here just continue to use what they have always used, uninterested in trying anything new or different that may actually be an improvement. As I am sure you are aware, there are numerous products on the market that are made specifically to Clean, Lubricate and Protect (CLP) firearms, as well as lubricants intended for other applications, (i.e. Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil). Most of them work just fine for firearms and the important thing is to use them on a regular basis. My preference is to use separate products to clean, lubricate and protect my firearms, instead of using one product that claims to do all of the above (CLP), such as Ballistol multi-use spray or Break Free CLP. While these products may work fine for some folks, I do not believe that one size fits all. I find it hard to believe that one product will do as good a job of cleaning, lubricating and protecting all parts of a firearm, as compared to different products that are formulated to do one specific task and do it really well. For the past five years, I have been using the M-Pro 7 military grade gun cleaning system and lubricant product line, using their specific products for each task. Check out their web site for more information: http://www.mpro7.com/ FYI, the M-Pro 7 products are used by the U.S. military and perform above the minimum MILSPEC requirements. For example, the minimum cleaning efficiency for the MILSPEC is 70%. In an independent government funded test the M-Pro 7 Gun Cleaner scored 98% cleaning efficiency for one cleaning pass and worked 4 times faster than most other cleaners, which scored between 50% - 74% cleaning efficiency. Also, I appreciate that all M-Pro7 gun cleaning products are odorless, non-hazardous, biodegradable and non-flammable, unlike some of the cleaners suggested by others. Also, they use a unique blend of modern chemical technologies containing corrosion inhibitors and surfactants with a non-toxic solvent base to provide superior cleaning without the intense smell of other cleaners, (i.e. Hoppe's in particular). The M-Pro 7 Gun Cleaner thoroughly strips the surface of all oil and grease. It breaks up carbon particles from the bore steel, therefore allowing for a very good job of removing both the surface carbon particles along with the embedded metal fouling. In the cleaning process I use brass and soft bristle brushes, cotton patches as well as bore snakes in tandem, treated with the cleaning solution. I then use a can of compressed air to blow out any remaining cleaning solution from those hard to reach areas. Once it is dry, I will apply the appropriate gun oil or grease as the lubricant, where necessary. I hope this helps and gives you another option to consider.... AVB-AMG
  3. @Sniper: What you do is certainly another very good option to help address the growing hunger problem in NJ and nationally, so I applaud your efforts in that regard. In the mid-2000’s, I had conversations with the management of the Community Food Bank of New Jersey (CFBNJ) during their fund raiser events. From those discussions I decided to follow their suggestion that with a financial donation they receive, they can then best determine what their specific needs are to fill on a weekly basis. Specifically, what food items are in the most demand at that time, as well as what programs would benefit the most from an infusion of money. Thus, my reasoning for contributing money to them instead of actual food items, so they can decide where it should be best applied, on an ongoing basis. Also, they have a very high percentage, (93.9%) of donated dollars that go towards the actual expenses of the programs, services and food that it delivers. (see links below) https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3545 https://cfbnj.org/ FYI, for the last several years when I was working full-time, I signed up for a automatic monthly financial donation to the CFBNJ, charged directly to my credit card. It was the easiest way to contribute to a highly regarded charity that provides a much-needed important service to those suffering from food insecurities in our state. AVB-AMG
  4. @Mrs. Peel: I thought I would resurrect this thread that you started two years ago around Thanksgiving, since it is as relevant now, if not even more so, as we near the end of this very traumatic and devastating year of 2020. After seeing the long lines of cars of families around our country, lined up to receive supplies of food from Food Banks, it certainly made an impression on me. Therefore, I decided to make another financial donation to our local food bank, the Community Food Bank of New Jersey. They have recently announced a 3 for 1 match of any dollar donations made to them, by the Dec. 31st 2020. I have already made a couple of donations to them earlier this year due to the many food hardships either directly or indirectly caused by the COVID-19 virus pandemic. I was waiting to see what the presumed final bill in Congress will include that is expected to be finalized and approved before Christmas and what it may include towards this very important charitable cause. But since they are taking so damn long to agree to a compromise, I made my contribution online today. As far as I am concerned, making sure that Americans have enough food to survive is far more of basic necessity than many other charities right now, especially since so many people are still out of work and cannot afford the basic necessities of life. FYI, I prefer to donate to charities whose causes I believe in and who have a proven historical track record of having a very high percentage of each dollar donated ACTUALLY going to that cause, and not to support an administrative bureaucracy. My preference is to give money to help people and not send messages.... AVB-AMG
  5. To give folks further perspective on what @GRIZ is referring to in his post above, here are links to videos on those first two vehicles.... AVB-AMG https://youtu.be/Ct-KlbvGXgo https://youtu.be/QYXSKto-nVY
  6. My initial impression of using a red-dot sight on a hand gun is that it is rather complicated and not as intuitive, let alone as fast to acquire the target as the more traditional iron sights, night sights or fiber optic sights. It is just one more thing that could go wrong and has to be dealt with as a maintenance issue. Considering the added weight to the gun, battery life and complexity, I am not sure that they are worth to money, effort or hassle to use them. To me, the red dot sights seem to make more sense on a rifle, which I have on mine. Our home defense handgun has a green laser/gun light combination which seems to work quite well when I have successfully practiced using it at the range in distances from 7-25 yards, achieving close groupings. I think in a actual real emergency, when one's adrenalin is flowing and one's heart is pumping rapidly, that combination would be more dependable than a handgun with a red dot. Of course, to each their own.... Just my thoughts..... AVB-AMG
  7. Maybe not really "that last forgotten muscle car", but certainly a sleeper in general appearance, is what is IMHO, one of the best all-around motor vehicles available today. If I was in the market today for a car that was practical, yet truly fun to drive, comfortably seats 4 people, (possibly even 5), that has all-wheel drive for all-season road conditions, all current state-of-the-art safety and hi-tech features, a generous amount of storage/cargo space and a wonderfully ridiculous powerful hand-assembled turbocharged engine that puts out 600+ hp, it would be a current or recent model year Mercedes-Benz E63s AMG Wagon. It has more usable storage space than most typical SUV's and has a supercar 0-60 mph time of 3.4 seconds! Pretty darn fast for a non-descript grocery/kid hauler....with amazing engine exhaust acoustics! While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I do think it is quite nice looking as well. The only real downside is the current MSRP of around $125,000. AVB-AMG
  8. @xXxplosive: You are making a number of strong assertions, having never been to RTSP yourself and just relying on what your son conveyed to you as his one time experience. Maybe you may want to consider giving them a break and then see for yourself, first hand and then decide. Yes, RTSP is expensive compared to many other ranges, but I find that you usually get what you pay for and I have been pleased with my experiences at their ranges in both Randolph and Union. IMHO, they are one of the best gun ranges/gun retailers/firearm retailers in NJ. I do agree with you that there is an added risk of shooting at any public gun range with others who are new to firearms, first-time shooters and folks who just walk in, (drive in), off the street to shoot. That is why when I was a member I would only go there to shoot during the members-only hours, since it was usually less crowded. Yet, more importantly, I was confident and perceived that almost all of the other members there with me were knowledgeable and experienced gun enthusiasts who knew the range rules and practiced safe operating procedures. If I wanted to practice drawing from my holster and double-tapping a target at various distances, I would tell the Range Safety Officer (RSO), that is what I would like to do and would ask their permission first. Showing respect and courtesy usually allows you to do what you want within reason.... Frankly, like @brucin, I decided not to renew my membership at RTSP once the COVID-19 virus pandemic shut down the gun ranges, as a purely economic choice. When the state of NJ finally allowed them to reopen, the imposed as well as the voluntary restrictions instituted just did not make it worth it for me to rejoin at that time. I do look forward to re-upping my membership sometime in the second half of 2021, once life begins to return to some semblance of normalcy. AVB-AMG
  9. @carl_g, @kc17, @silverado427, @Bomber, @Sniper, @Underdogand @father-of-three. You all make very sensible and valid points on this tragic event. For what it is worth, once again, I want to express my shock and sadness regarding the news of this most unfortunate recent event. Many of us on NJGF are well aware of the multiple suicides committed by young men at indoor gun ranges in NJ that have occurred in just the past 4-5 years, (i.e. Gun For Hire, Tactical Training Ctr. and RTSP/Randolph, etc…), They have either rented a handgun or used a handgun of someone who owns one and shared it with them at the range. As a result of these awful suicides at gun ranges, a number of gun range owners, working as a consortium, have instituted policy changes that were a joint-effort with the NSSF and the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. As I believe most of us understand, if someone is determined to shoot themselves it is almost impossible to stop them. Suicide will never go away and it is a shame that a disturbed individual, regardless of whether or not they are a new or a repeat customer, chooses to attempt or succeed in this sad selfish act in a public forum surrounded by many other innocent people, whether it is a gun range or other public and populated venue. They expose other innocent bystanders to witness their horrible desperate act, as well as potentially putting those people in physical harm’s way. As I have said in other related threads, I believe anyone who chooses to attempt or succeed in this sad act of suicide-by-gun, in a gun range, (a semi-public setting), is being incredibly selfish, not caring how their suicide death by shooting themselves will profoundly and adversely affect all of their friends and loved ones, let alone the other innocent people who happen to be nearby at the gun range. As a previous member of RTSP, along with my wife, we have the highest regard and respect for everyone at RTSP, from the ownership partners, management, RSO’s, sales, training and gunsmith staff. We understand that the process and procedures that RTSP and other gun ranges have put into effect and will possibly modify again, in a further attempt to reduce the chances for this type of incident of being repeated, are the “cost” of doing business. We will certainly abide by whatever additional rules and regulations they institute to attempt to avoid a repeat or similar incident in the future. While some may find these new rules inconvenient it is their business to run as they see fit, abiding by ever more intrusive insurance requirements. Everyone at RTSP has our sincere condolences and best wishes on dealing with the aftermath of this tragic event. I think we all agree that suicide is a tragic choice made by someone who, for various complicated reasons, either at the low end, wants to call attention to themselves and/or at the extreme end, does not want to live any longer. Looking at the factual statistics, the majority of gun deaths are suicides, and just over half of suicides involve guns. I do not blame firearms for suicides, which is a ludicrous assertion. Firearms are the tool of choice, selected and used by SOME people, mostly males, to commit suicide, since it is usually a very effective and efficient tool, with immediate results. The stark factual statistics show that for the past several years in the USA, there have been approximately 31,000+ deaths via guns per year, with about one-third being homicides and over two-thirds being suicides. According to national health statistics, 24,432 Americans used guns to kill themselves in 2018, up from 19,392 in 2010. For people who try to end their lives with a gun, they are successful in approx. 85% of the time and the majority of these people are white males. (This factual information is from the Center for Disease Control (CDC's) web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System, (WISQARS), which is an interactive, online database that provides fatal and nonfatal injury, violent death, and cost of injury data from a variety of trusted sources, along with the National Violent Death Reporting System, both of which use data compiled that is around 2-3 years old). I share the concern of others, that now almost 9 months since the coronavirus pandemic began and the incredible disruption it has caused, specifically the growing economic dislocation and mental despair, could be the recipe for even more attempted/successful suicides. We know that gun sales have risen steadily since March 2020. The on/off/on shutdowns aimed at containing the virus have disrupted lives, destroyed small businesses and led to social isolation. There have been a number of studies that have shown an increase in personal anxiety, sadness and fear could push someone into a real crisis, especially if they are already suffering from some form of mental illness. Therefore, I am concerned that we may very well see an increase in the number of these attempted/successful suicide-by-gun, not just in NJ, but nationally… AVB-AMG
  10. And another article on this topic...... ‘How Did We Not Know?’ Gun Owners Confront a Suicide Epidemic The toll of self-inflicted Gun deaths has led to an unusual alliance between suicide-prevention advocates and gun-rights proponents By Roni Caryn Rabin https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/suicide-guns-prevention.html?referringSource=articleShare
  11. Here is another article on this thread’s topic, from the Oct. 16, 2020 issue of the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/us/veterans-suicides-guns-firearms.html?referringSource=articleShare AVB-AMG Focusing on Firearms Proves Contentious in Struggle to Reduce Veterans’ Suicides The gun control debate complicated an effort to encourage frank talk by health professionals about the risks posed by firearms. By Dave Phillips The suicide rate among military veterans keeps edging higher, and to address it Congress passed a major bill this fall, named in honor of a Navy SEAL named Cmdr. John Scott Hannon who was an outspoken proponent of veterans’ mental health treatment before he took his own life with a gun in 2018. But at the last minute, lawmakers stripped the bill of a proven prevention technique that saves veterans’ lives, and might have saved the life of Commander Hannon. Why? Because the provision in question touched a third rail in Washington politics: the danger posed by firearms. The Commander John Scott Hannon Veterans Mental Health Care Improvement Act, now awaiting the president’s signature, still does things the commander’s family says he would be proud of: funding community organizations that work with veterans, and scholarships to train more mental health professionals. But before it was modified, the bill would also have required health care workers who treat veterans to be trained on how to talk with at-risk patients about the danger of having guns in the house and about how to reduce that risk — a strategy known as lethal-means safety. Evidence shows that reducing access to lethal means can drastically cut the risk of suicide. And for veterans, especially, the lethal means are overwhelmingly firearms. The suicide rate among veterans has been climbing for more than a decade, and is now roughly double that of the nation as a whole. Americans who die by suicide use a gun about half the time, but among veterans, the figure is 70 percent. The lethal-means provision that was stripped from the bill was introduced by Representative Lauren Underwood, Democrat of Illinois. “I’m a public health nurse, so I’m trained to look at the data and design policies that are effective and evidence-based,” Ms. Underwood said in a statement. “The data we have shows there’s no solution to the veteran suicide crisis without improving lethal-means safety.” The Department of Veterans Affairs has been trying to develop ways to talk to veterans about guns and suicide for more than a decade, but the topic is so culturally and politically fraught that progress has been slow and uneven, in part because doctors do not want to alienate patients. The lethal-means provision would have provided mandatory training to nearly all Veterans Affairs doctors and mental health professionals, as well as private doctors who treat patients with veterans’ health benefits. Like the conversations doctors have had for years with cigarette smokers, the approach involves making sure the patient understands the dangers of easily accessible guns, and then asking whether the patient wants to come up with a plan to reduce those dangers. Suggestions include locking up the guns in the house or storing them with a friend, relative or local gun club until the patient’s risk of suicide has subsided. The lethal-means safety approach has broad support among major veterans’ groups, and it was included in a list of 10 suicide prevention recommendations released by the White House in the spring. But some veterans’ groups opposed the strategy, saying the mere suggestion that veterans remove guns from their homes could deter them from seeking mental health care. “This emphasis on firearms misses the point,” Sherman Gillums, chief of strategy for the veterans group Amvets, which opposed the legislation, said in a commentary posted online before the bill was passed. He said veterans’ mental health care should focus on better therapy techniques and reducing reliance on medications, adding, “I’m not encouraged by this emphasis on the action that was taken and not the underlying cause.” Anything that smacks of gun control is political kryptonite for conservatives. Despite White House backing, Ms. Underwood was unable to find a Republican co-sponsor for the lethal-means safety provision. House Democrats added the provision to the bill, but it was removed during negotiations with the Republican-controlled Senate, according to two people familiar with the negotiations. Despite the setback, prevention experts say it makes sense to continue to expand lethal-means safety, whether or not it is mandated by law. “If you want to really make a dent in preventing suicide, this would have the most impact,” said Russell Lemle, the former chief psychologist for the San Francisco Veterans Affairs hospital system. For years, he said, the medical profession has generally tried to reduce suicide by treating patients’ underlying mental health issues. But epidemiologists have realized that impressive gains can be made by making the physical act of suicide more difficult and less lethal. “Suicide is often an impulsive act,” Dr. Lemle said. “If we can put distance between the impulse and the means, we can make a real difference.” When access to an especially lethal method is restricted, the suicide rate often drops. Up until the 1960s, the ovens and stoves in many British homes used coal gas, which was rich in dangerous carbon monoxide and was implicated in many deaths, accidental or intentional. As the country transitioned to safer natural gas the suicide rate fell by one-third. Bangladesh struggled in the 1990s with a high rate of suicide by ingesting toxic insecticides. After the country banned the most lethal poisons in 2000, the suicide rate dropped by one-quarter. The United States applies the same principle to physical locations like the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and the Coronado Bridge in San Diego, where barriers and nets are starting to be installed to protect suicidal people. Because so many suicides are gun deaths, they present a huge opportunity for prevention if doctors and other health workers can find an effective way to talk to veterans about guns, according to Dr. Matthew Miller, who teaches epidemiology at Northeastern University and is a leading researcher on gun violence. “We know the risk is there,” Dr. Miller said. But studies show that only about 10 percent of gun owners are aware of the higher risk, he said, suggesting that there is enormous room to inform people and encourage them to change their habits. Veterans Affairs has trained more than 20,000 health care workers in recent years to talk to patients about lethal-means safety. The language removed from the John Scott Hannon bill would have made that training mandatory for many more health care professionals. “If there is a good relationship with the patient, it doesn’t have to be culturally charged, it can come from a place of real concern, just like a doctor might talk about the risks of smoking,” Dr. Miller said. Those conversations, though, carry their own risk. Opponents say that required lethal-means safety stigmatizes mental illness and may deter people from seeking care, which is also a criticism of so-called red flag laws that allow the police in several states to temporarily confiscate firearms from people who are deemed by a judge to be a danger to themselves or to others. A survey of veterans who served in the military after 2001 found that 21 percent were hesitant to get mental health care from Veterans Affairs because they were worried their guns would be confiscated. The department’s first effort at lethal-means safety was to give away gun locks to veterans. The program was met with an uproar when recipients of the free locks were asked to give their addresses and say how many guns they owned. Opponents accused the department of trying to start a federal gun registry. Dr. Lemle, who became a senior policy analyst at the Veterans Healthcare Policy Institute after leaving Veterans Affairs last year, said the system’s reluctance to speak openly about the problem of guns had only fueled disinformation. “The idea is not to restrict anyone,” Dr. Lemle said. “This is not a gun rights issue, it’s about coming up with a mutually derived plan to be safe. For too long, I think we’ve been afraid to talk about it, to the disservice of our patients.” Commander Hannon, whom the prevention bill is named after, may be a case in point. After a 23-year career serving around the world with the SEALs, he retired in 2011 and moved to Montana, where he struggled for years with post-traumatic stress, traumatic brain injuries and bipolar disorder. He found solace in therapy programs that used animals, and in helping other veterans. He owned several guns. Out of concern for his safety, his family stored the guns with a fellow SEAL at one point, but he soon demanded them back. His sister, Kim Parrott, said the family never formally learned how to talk to him about the dangers guns pose to veterans with mental health disorders.
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