SoCalTrojanSoldier

Very cool Tony. My wife doesn't like the AR either, she says that it blasts her in the face. I think I'll have to get a .22 too.

Very nice setup.

Usually I'm a thread killer. :unknw: Thank you Paul!!!

Thank you!

I sent this to myself and then uploaded to photobucket. I hope this works. You may have to turn the sound up really high. As soon as you hit play you will hear the sound. I caught it in the middle. the sound will do it again in a few seconds, and if you listen through the wind you'll hear it again and towards the end you'll hear it taper off. It was louder in real life, the mic on the iphone barely picked it up but if you listen carefully you'll hear it. Those of you who know me know that I don't wear a tin foil hat and know what I do for a living. If someone wants to stand up for me please do. No BS'ing here. Thanks. http://s483.photobuc...nt=790a4882.mp4 If you listen through the wind on the mic and the sound is up, you can hear it also. At first it sounds like the wind far away but if you listen to it carefully you'll notice a similar tone as in the other videos. Had to send it to Photobucket, there is a 2MG limit on to up load it here.

It lasted about 15 min. At first when I heard it, I kind of ignored it and thought it was the heater vents. Then I kept hearing it over and over so I got up to investigate. Opened the window...nothing. Kept hearing it then when I opened the window again I heard it outside and really was everywhere. No reaction from the dogs except to smell the outside air. I grabbed my Iphone and tried to record the sound with the video and you can barely hear it but it is there. Really weird after reading the thread on Arfcom right before going to bed.

Thank goodness it wasn't just me. I do have a video of it with sound, you can barely hear it, mostly rain drops but if you listen carefully you can hear it. On the recording it is easy to mistaken it for the wind but it has an eerie resonance to it. It was louder in real life, I heard it through closed windows secured for the winter. Maybe someone can tell me how to get it off my iphone so I can post it. I was kinda worried MHS would be paying me a call if I was the only one to hear it...there goes my 2A.

Was anyone up at about 1:00 am last night in south Jersey? Did anyone hear any strange deep bellowing sounds fill the air outside? The sounds were exactly like the ones in the following link: http://www.ar15.com/..._is_freaky.html

Both of you guys have great points. Great discussion. I'd like to know the distance the shootings occurred in the article. The author basically came to the conclusion that hitting the target was of utmost importance. The way I see it, the farther the distance the hits go down. ( I would add that the more stress a person experiences the more the hits go down also). I would venture to guess that most LEO encounters occur at a longer distance than an average citizen being victimized on the street. Hunkering down in a home you may have some distance with which to fight, but maybe not if an attack occurs at the front door after you answer a knock. At very close range I would think that a larger caliber weapon would generally provide better stopping power while a smaller caliber (9mm ball for example) would probably completely penetrate with less damage if a non lethal shot occurs. Alot of people generally carry something that is more concealable and thus a smaller caliber weapon. Also consider that we live in the northeast where heavy coats or leather coats may slow down a larger slower moving caliber causing less penetration and thus less "stopping power". It's hard to find the ideal caliber for all situations. Would you carry (if you could) a different weapon in the winter than you would during the summer? Would you rather have more rounds with less "stopping power" or less rounds with more "stopping power"?

I agree with you Griz, I like to see my target rather than covering it up also.

To hit the bullseye... I find that My Glock 19 with Heine 8's and my Kimber as well as all my other 1911's require a sight picture as in #1 (where I can see my target) however, my HK USP 40 requires a sight picture as in #3 (thus covering the target, making it even harder to hit the bullseye the farhter out it is). At distances up to 50 yards I find the sight picture required to hit the bullseye does not change, if anything I tend to shoot low and left the farther out I go but that is me. If I take my time and press correctly the bullet goes exactly where it is supped to ie. all of my handguns shoot better than I do but the sight picture does change depending upon which weapon I'm handling. The way I think about my shooting at a target is...it's either a bigger target (close) or a small target (farther away). I really don't think about distance and don't account for bullet drop. At those distances the bullet drop seems negligible. Only in very, very close shooting do I adjust the sight picture for sight over bore offset.

I'm thinking of getting a M&P9 with standard sights. Can anyone tell me what the sight picture of your M&P9 with standard sights looks like? (I have the M&P9 VTAC model and I know it is different than with standard sites. It's actually difficult for me to hit the bullseye with the VTAC sights on the first shot, I ususally have to correct up). Is it 1, 2, or 3 below? Thanks The VTAC sight picture is below:

Could have been us. We were running the "Rolling Thunder" Drill at the MDTS shotgun class at Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol Club yesterday morning. :hunter: :hunter: :hunter: :hunter:

I agree Bryan is one of the good guys and he does this without getting or expecting anything.

We have a couple of Golden Doodles. Got them From the Rochester NY area. Great dogs. They will fly them. I believe American Airlines has heated and pressurized holds for live animals. I can give you the site if you want.

Congrats!!! Yeah, the cold water will cramp you up in a second. The Spartan Run, now that is some crazy stuff there. I was sore last night but today the only thing that hurts a little is my right ankle. Cramps are a b***h so I made sure to drink along the way, eat the bannanas, eat the gel packs, and I also got some of the "Oral IV" stuff from Bravo Company. No cramping here. The shocks weren't bad yesterday but in PA they hurt badly. I think the hay insulated some of the shocks.

The tunnels can be tight but there is always some one in front and in back. You really don't notice how tight it is.

Congrats to all TriState Tough Mudders!!! For those of you interested but afraid you can't do it, start training slowly. It is possible. Everyone helps everyone. Try starting with something like "Couch to 10K" workouts. That will get you on the right track. Cardio is the most important. Upper body strength is not such a priorty. The only obstacle that is impossible without upper body strength is the monkey bars. Also if they have an obstacle where you have to eat a habanero pepper...don't eat it. You'll puke your guts out. I started with a stationary bike last year just to get my heart rate up. Then I ran on a treadmill. For the April Tough Mudder I could only run about one mile on the treadmill at level 4.5 and that was pushing it. It was not enough. For this one I worked myself up to over 3 miles on the treadmill at level 5-6 easily. I also did the bike for off training days and used a nordic track and the stair master a couple of time a week. Also I started the P90X in May but did not get past the 3rd week. I couldn't do it everyday and by the end of June was starting the fourth week. My knee was hurting, so I concentrated on just bicycling until my pain subsided. Then I started the running and bicycling regimen.

Vinnie had to work unfortunately. We are signed up for next April 28

Congrats!!! We started a 0900. The times on the camera are off. It took my team 5 hrs, we finished at 1400. Last year I was "adopted" by this team after my original team left me on the mountain. The Pledge: Mudder Pledge As a Tough Mudder I pledge that… * I understand that Tough Mudder is not a race but a challenge. * I put teamwork and camaraderie before my course time. * I do not whine – kids whine. * I help my fellow Mudders complete the course. * I overcome all fears. In the spirit of the Tough Mudder creed, we all stayed together no matter what. There were 17 of us this year. We just keep getting bigger because we keep adopting people who get left behind by their other teams. We stayed at each of the obstacles and every one helped a few other mudders that needed help. Last year I was amazed that complete and utter strangers could be so encouraging and supportive.

Thanks. It's been forcing me to train cardio. I've lost about 20 lbs since the April Tough mudder. I still need to lose about 25 more pounds. I realized that my cardio was terrible when we were shooting barricades at the end of one of the MDTS classes and I was very winded. It's bad when both Chris and Joel are asking me if I'm OK. I've read somewhere (I think it was one of Chris Fry's PDN articles or in one of the survival forums) that you should be able to run as fast as you can for two minutes straight with gear. The way I figure it, that should be about 1/2 of a mile or just under.

There were about three 100yd "swims". There is a line in the water that you use to pull yourself to the other side. Hence the gloves. There were about three other 50 yard swims. And alot of other "pools" and mud pits that vary between a few yards and several hundred yards. They are sneaky in that you could be truding in 3 feet of muddy water and all of a sudden you fall into a deep 6 foot pit. Once you are wet, you stay wet. The course is flat and any wind blows right through your wet clothes. I'd say that most people were slightly hypothermic during the entire run.

Tough Mudder It was about 12 miles: The water was cold and there was alot of it: The mud: I had previously posted the below on another board, some of it pertains to the Tough Mudder Allentown which I completed in April 2011 at Bear Creek mountain: Tough Mudder Clues Everyone I know who was a runner did pretty well. I hated the mountain more than anything. As stupid as it sounds the Christmas song "take one step in front of the other" helped me take the next upward step. I live at the shore and thus no hills to be had at all to train for the mountain. Towards the end I remember trudging back up the mountain and looking to the left. I was barely making it up the hill with nothing in my hands and my thighs and calves were on the verge of cramping when I noticed I still had to come back down and then carry the friggin log up the hill. By that time I could see the finish line and refused to quit. I signed up when I read somewhere in these forums that a member congratulated her husband for completing the tough mudderin Nov 2011 in NJ. For all the preppers, and those that stress self defense/self preservation - I think the most important tool we have (besides our brains) is our physical shape. To future mudders (especially those that let life get in the way of training and staying in shape - you know who you are, you got married, have kids, gotta work to pay the mortgage etc) some words of advice that might help: 1) A camelback does really help. Just get a low profile version so it does not get caught on the nets/barbed wires. Drink up at the water stops. 2) If you are doing it in the cold and you have an aversion to near freezing temps, consider wearing a 1-2mm long sleeve wet suit top. Don't forget anti chaffe when you put it on. I wore a sleeveless underarmor shirt under a longsleeve underarmor baseball shirt. The long sleeves also help when crawling over the rocks in the mud. 3) If you plan on going through the 50,000 or so pics, wear a bright shirt so you can easily pick yourself out in the thumbnails. 4) I carried three powerbar gel packs (no caffeine) that fit in the camelback pocket. I used one and handed out the other two to people who seemed like they needed the extra boost. One guy was a "kid" in great shape that was stuck going up hill at the end, he was cramped up like a vise. I gave him the rest of my water and one of my team members and myself got under his arms and helped him up the hill. I think the electrolytes in the gel packs helped. A spectator at the top gave him a bananna and more water. He finished with us. 5) Talk to triatheletes for clues to what to eat prior and during the mudder. 6) Wear gloves...I wore batting gloves by under armor. They were alot less expensive than the football gloves. 7) The water is shockingly cold. Be prepared. Do not stop moving. If you are in good shape and you're moving through the course fast, you'll be waiting at the obstacles - and getting colder. 8) If you have weak ankles and have a tendency to twist them, be sure to wear a brace that fits in your shoe. You will twist your ankle especially at the end when you get tired. 9) Train cardio 10) Train cardio 11) One more thing train cardio!!!!! 12) Did I mention to train cardio?

How's this? A story worth consideration since the President, Sec. State, and The Attorney General are all on record favoring absolute gun control in the US. You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, You hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your House and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down Beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch Toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, You raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second Man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, You know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years Before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless.. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you That the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder And Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells You not to worry: authorities will probably Plea the case down to manslaughter. "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," He replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven." The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them...Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters...As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars. A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced,as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you..Prosecutors paint a picture of youas a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term... How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ? It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns.. Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns. Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead. The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.) Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland, Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school. For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms still owned by private citizens. During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released. Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands." All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars. When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar? WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION. "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams If you think this is important, please forward to everyone you know. You had better wake up, because Obama is doing this very same thing, over here, if he can get it done. Here is a BBC summary of events in this saga: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/3087003.stm

I'll take a copy of Rosie Huntington-Whitely please. I know this is a general firearms discussion but I couldn't help it.