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I forgot about the Ruger SR9. I put about 50 rounds through one a few weeks ago and was very impressed with it. I liked it a lot more then the Glock 19 I was shooting that day.

Mikey, Why did you start a second thread on the same subject? Your other thread is getting lots of views and responses.

CZ75B and M&P can be had for $500 Taurus PT-92 & Stoeger Cougar can be had for $400 (or less) All great weapons.

1 oz 1,700 fps mv 2,800 ft/lb of energy 2,800 ft/lb of ENERGY 'nuff said

The CZ75B has been made for years. A good used example can be had very easily. Also, there are many very good copies, such as the EAA Witness, MRI Baby Eagle II, Armalite AR-24...so if you are set on a new weapon but can't find a CZ, those copies shoot just as nice (some nicer).

I agree. A CoM shot allows them to die in the hole. No smell. No clean-up. All fun.

tnoutdoors9 does great videos. I always learn something from him...like, I'd much rather use a slug for HD.

I can't believe I've never heard of (or thought of) that phrase before. As to the original question, check with the local zoning officer.

In an effort to eradicate the groundhog population on my property, during the course of a summer I killed 22 groundhogs two years ago. It seemed like every time I killed one, two came to the funeral. I have probably killed more then 50 of them over the last 10 years. The weapon I used; my .22 H&R with open sights. Head shots were shot-n-drop. But I got tired of hauling them deep into the woods or burying them (they do stick to high heaven for a few days). So I got in the habit of a gut shooting them. This way they retreat to their hole and bury themselves. They are crafty. Don't even bother taking out a rifle if the wind is at your back. They aren't easy to shoot because as soon as they sense a threat they retreat to one of their many holes. That, and they tend to not leave more then 10 years between themselves and an escape route. My son has a nice Marlin 795 with a scope that I got him a few months back. I'll be using that as my "verminator" this year. I may use my AR, but then it's back to a post-shot clean-up effort.

What? I think we gave the Indians more for Manhattan island.

Yeah, I'm 6'1" and have to really hunch to get in the attic. While he has almost nothing in his waiting area, he seems to have EVERYTHING upstairs. How do you like the Cougar 9mm? How does it compare to any other 9mm's you may have? I have a 9mm SS model on order with Jim. BTW, another vote to change the thread title.

No, now it's apiece of shit. Why do you ask?

My last child is out of school in six years and I will move at that time. I grew up in central PA, so that is a very likely place for me. NH is on the list as well. So are OR and ID. I love the NW.

From New Jersey Administrative Code, Title 13, Law and Public Safety, Chapter 54, Firearms and Weapons 13:54-1.2 Definitions "Assault firearms" means: 1. The following firearms: [cut] M1 carbine type [cut] 2. Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed in paragraph (1) above. The Citadel Carbine is neither an M1 "type" (different magazine, different firing mechanism, different shape, different features & caliber) nor is it substantially identical. In fact, it's NOT identical at all since you can not take parts from one gun and have them fit or work on the other. This is really just a case of paranoia. It's a friggin' semi-auto .22 caliber rifle.

You can call it a bazooka, but that doesn't make it one. The rifle does not share a single piece with an actual M1...it's not even the same caliber. If a 10/22 is legal, then so is this rifle.

Get a .22LR. Cheap ammo and very accurate. In a word, fun.

I like this weapon. But I'm also partial to .30-30's. Great woods gun. As a woods gun, I don't have a scope on mine, but I can shoot 6" groups with the open sites at 100 yards.

Yes, you seem to understand my point.

That makes sense since its been a while since I was in the market. Still, I would avoid an "up sell" to a more efficient unit.

Install the air-handler and ducting in the attic space. Cool air falls. Systems that have to pump the cool air up to the house are not as comfortable as a top-down system. A 2.0 to 2.5 ton system is much too big for a 1,000 sq ft ranch. A unit that large will short cycle and only make the house feel cold and clammy. An AC needs to run to scavenge the moisture. My first floor system is 2.5 Ton for 2600 sq ft. The upstairs system is 1.5 ton for 1,600 sq ft. When you do the heat loss/heat gain calculation, it is best to round down. Never round up. Another bit of advice, a 10 to 12 SER is plenty efficient for our climate. More then likely you'll run the system for less then 30-45 days per year. You will never recoup the investment in a 14 SER system. Further, the lower SER units are less prone to failure.

Too excited to even tell us what the purchase is. That's funny.

Get targets for training. I'm teaching my son how to shoot a pistol in a few weeks. These will be a great help.

I know everyone likes ammo cans (myself included) because they look military and they just scream "I'm a gun guy", but the truth of the matter is plastic storage cases (sealed, with handles) can be found at Walmart for cheap. Something as simple as these allow you to organize your ammo, and see what's in the case and how much you have (or need): http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-2.5-Quart-Latch-Box-Set-of-6/20699630 6 containers for less then $15.

When I get my next round of purchase permits, the two-tone PT-92 is on my "must have" list; model number 1920151SPL17. Dead sexy.

Of the guns you've listed, only the PT-92 can be found for less the $500 (new). The CZ hovers around $500 and the FNS and M9 exceed the limit by a good margin (new). They are all top-notch guns, you wont go wrong with any of them. As several have stated above, buy the one that feels best in your hand. It really is the most important "feature" of any handgun. The only operational difference between the PT-92 and the M9 is the location of the safety. The triggers are different but like the location of the safety, one isn't better than the other, it's just personal preference.