Sig226GuyNJ

I received some of the same ones as well. Isn't it ironic the Dem Assembly member uses the word "impose" when describing Christie's actions. Impose is something the Dems have been doing for a very long time.

Nope. All I keep hearing is it'll never pass. I'm pretty fed up with the attitude of some gun owners in this state. They refuse to even fight for their rights, and only bitch about not having them. It's pretty pathetic if you ask me.

Signed. We need a lot more signatures. Come on people, let's get to 50K!

Thank you. Emails sent to all Senate and Assembly Members. Every single person on this forum should be doing the same. There is absolutely NO excuse for not doing so.

What are you guys putting in the email's Subject?

Emails sent. All of you fuckers better be doing the same. The NRA made it very easy to do.

Below is an explanation from the NRA. "Today, Governor Chris Christie took a historic step on behalf of the state’s beleaguered gun owners by vetoing A.3689 and S.816. These two anti-gun bills were opposed by NRA in recent weeks but were ultimately adopted by anti-gun politicians in Trenton. Gov. Christie issued conditional vetoes which return the bills back to the Legislature with suggested language, which if adopted, would drastically improve a pair of draconian gun laws. If the Legislature rejects the Governor’s suggested amendments, the bills will die. Today’s action solidifies earlier action by Governor Christie with respect to the state’s “justifiable need” standard for the issuance of a concealed carry permit. Under current law, the state’s standard is so onerous that it requires applicants to prove a specific threat. The law has the net effect of blocking virtually all concealed carry applications. However, the Christie Administration issued an executive order earlier this year which made an incremental improvement to the state’s issuance of concealed carry permits by requiring a showing of only a more generalized threat. In retaliation, anti-gun lawmakers fast tracked A.3689 to codify the “justifiable need” standard claiming “legislative intent” where neither have been proven to previously exist. Rather than “freeze” a bad standard into law for all time, today’s positive reform would significantly improve a broken concealed carry law which has always devalued the constitutional right to self-defense. Also, the reworked smart gun legislation would remove the 2002 Smart Gun law's mandate, which threatens a backdoor gun ban once smart guns are certified as commercially viable by banning all future traditional handgun sales. In addition to removing the 2002 mandate, Christie’s conditional veto also strikes the bill’s new mandate that forces gun dealers to offer smart guns for sale, thereby blocking any attempt to ban traditional handguns. NRA previously testified that the bill forced market acceptance of a technologically unviable product which is harmful for self-defense and is nothing more than a tricky gun ban. This transformation would move New Jersey into conformity with the vast majority of other states which value the right to self-defense and have strong carry laws. Governor Christie has expressed to us that, “for decades, law-abiding residents of New Jersey have had their Second Amendment right to self-protection burdened by gun laws that are among the most unreasonable in the country. . . . Rather than doubling down on the unreasonable requirements for law-abiding residents of New Jersey to obtain a concealed carry permit, I propose having New Jersey join the 42 other states that have adopted a “shall-issue” standard for approving such applications.” Please contact your state Senator and Assembly members and respectfully urge them to support the changes offered by the Governor in today’s veto message. Encourage your family, friends and fellow gun owners to do the same."

It's not a grandstanding move. This moves forces the Legislature to accept the changes, or have their bills die. So either way, it's a win or win big situation for gun rights in NJ. ETA: I'm not saying this is going to pass, but this is the closest we've been to becoming a Shall Issue state. At the very least, the anti gun bills die.

Nope. Not really good forecasting. Just me always getting Labor Day and Memorial Day mixed up.

For us, if it comes our way, around Memorial Day weekend.

This is just my opinion but I feel the M&P has the best ergonomics on any pistol I've held, including the ppq. I also like the lower bore axis of it as well. Having said that, the ppq has a much superior trigger and a tighter barrel lockup than the M&P. My M&P 9 Pro's dwell time was almost non existent, causing the barrel to move around in any given direction before the bullet left it.

Yes sir. Although I've handled the ppq m2 before and found it had a great stock trigger. Ergonomics are excellent as well. Not quite as good as the M&P but still superior to other striker fired pistols. Just my opinion of course.

If the stock sights are POA/POI, ordering the same height sights shouldn't change it.

More of a reason to take the pistol course. No sense in hiding from your deficiencies.

Dead link.

You're right. Instead there is members only, unless the two are the same thing.

Thanks Zack. So are members allowed to bring a guest? I ask b/c on CJ's club website, it states members and guests only. But on CJ steel website, it states members only.

Thanks louu. Are the members only steel matches worth going to? Can I bring a guest as well? ETA: Just read it's Members Only with no guests it seems. Is this match worth going to? How does it differ from the regular Steel Matches?

I looked on CJ's website and it says they run a Special Steel Match on the 5th Sundays of the month. Anyone know if this is still an ongoing event? If so, are they having a match this Sunday and what exactly is a Special Steel Match? TIA!

Like someone else mentioned, the M&P can run as dry as the desert heat. But if you want to keep it lubed without oil seepage, use ball bearing grease. It stays on put, and lasts forever. I find that it also makes cleaning easy as all the carbon gets mixed in with the grease instead of sticking to the gun itself. A simple wipe takes off the grease and the carbon. Just be sure to use as little grease as possible. If you want to stick with oil, the seepage is normal.

That I agree with as well. Even with gun rights, we lack the will. Instead of getting out and actually doing something, we just sit here and bitch about it and argue about the true intents of the few out there who are actually fighting for our rights. As for the nonsensical and utterly useless email campaigns, I also agree. But what harm is there in signing a petition? Does it make me feel good about myself? Not really. In fact, I've forwarded it to many people with a note attached saying, "I doubt this will do anything, but let's voice our displeasure anyway". It's better than nothing, b/c we both know New Jersians are too lazy or scared to get off their fucking asses and march down to Trenton and demand change. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If NJ gun owners had half the balls the BLM movement does, we'd actually accomplish something.

I agree with everything you just wrote here. My confusion is how you're ok with a gas tax hike despite everything you just posted.

I agree that borrowing is not the solution either. But neither is continuing to tax the people and forcing them to pay for the fucking incompetence in Trenton.

Time to start paying for things like adults? I already pay more than my fair share. NJ already ranks 50 out of 50 states in highest overall taxes paid. How much more do we have to get bent over and take it in the ass because those in our state's government are either to inept or too greedy to get the job done. Just to give you a small example. Our street in being paved right now. It's not a large or long street. We received notice that the paving would be done in one day. They were to start this past Thursday at 7AM. Well, they didn't start til after 9AM. Then, they said, "Sorry, we won't be able to finish today. We'll be back tomorrow to finish". Tomorrow comes around, and they don't even bother showing up. So now we have to go through at least the weekend, driving on unpaved, uneven roads. It's the ineptitude of government that causes shit like this to happen, and causes our taxes to go up every fucking year. Maybe you're not sick of getting raped, but I am. Do you really believe this won't have a negative effect on things? When the prices of gas goes up, so does everything else. You think the companies that delivery goods will eat the cost? Of course not. That burden falls on us as the consumer.

They never give up trying to screw the citizens do they? http://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com/news/local/nj-democratic-leaders-reach-new-agreement-on-gas-tax-increase/article_9539505c-5024-11e6-8baa-cb40d1ccf6bc.html Below is a petition to Stephen Sweeney and Chris Christie to stop the Gas Tax Hike, https://www.change.org/p/stephen-sweeney-stop-the-nj-gas-tax?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=620135&alert_id=mEUrZFGjZf_GfRdto8UwOnz5yF6TEXChaK6WpxH5BMCmjDZYWWL6VI%3D