Eric.

With a chrome lined, hammer forged barrel, Colt BCG (melonite?), and mil spec trigger(?), this gun is nothjng special. You can build something of comparable quality jn the $550 to $750 range. Offer $500? Eric

I'm in for the next road trip, Pizza Bob... Eric

Great looking gun, Iggy. I also use Tier 1 Defense/ Mike and highly recommend them too. I had T1Defense install a Bartlein barrel on my Defiance action. Hey, how about a reveiw of your Black Hat training trip? Eric

Not a big Mosin fan, but here is another good Mosin movie: Enemy at the Gates Eric

I'm thinking its an official Red Ryder, carbine action, 200 shot, range model rifle. Eric

I don't know the statute verbatim, but in layman terms the issue is when someone "establishes residency". I know that the bar for establishing residency isn't that high too. Eric

Yep. Thats the thing- unless someone wants this as a plinker (an expensive plinker), it really has no use. Aside from having a practical use, I'm not sure firing that thing, semi auto, with a 5 lb trigger would even be enjoyable. It's too heavy to carry or move much. It's not any faster than an AR, nor as mobile. It's not as accurate as a precision rifle. Hate to be a wet blanket, but it ain't for me. Eric >does like a full auto SAW, tho

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Hey njJoni, I might take a ride down for one of those matches. The only issue I tuink I saw was that there are no comps/muzzle brakes allowed? Eric

Got it sighted in at 100, then shot this at 200yds: Shoots great. Good job, Tier One Defense. Eric

I forgot to mention that they do cerakote too. I haven't had anything cerakoted yet, but nice to know they do that. Eric

I like the new piece. Kinda looks a lil like a MK 12 SPR. What are you gonna use it for? Precision rifle? Eric

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try it out. Eric

For some reason, being that I'm new to the forum, I haven't mastered uploading more than one pic... Eric

I was looking for an experienced local gunsmithy to work on my custom 700 action and have my barrel chambered, threaded and headspaced. Long story, short, Google brought me to the NJ Gun forum and I started reading posts by Tier One Defense. After reading his posts, looking at pics of their work and stalking his Facebook page, I decided to give him a shot. They didn't disappoint! In addition to being an experienced gunsmith, Mike is also an avid precision rifle guy and tactical instructor. He knows a good deal about precision bolt guns and AR's. I'm sure they work on other stuff, but precision rifles are their specialty. My work came out 100% on the money. Nice clean, tight work. Lastly, I've dealt with custom makers in my other hobby(Pool). Custom makers of anything can be, umm, bad business men. Poor communication, unrealistic quoted deadlines, etc. I can say that Mike/Tier One was great with communication and deadlines too. If you text, call, email them, they get back to you! Hallelujah. I'll be a repeat customer. Tier One, Mountainside, NJ http://www.tieronedefense.com/ A pic and write up of the rifle is here: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/76178-65-creedmoor-build-just-done/?p=965197 Eric

I jsut got my barrel and action back from Tier One defense, Mountainside, NJ. The targets were test fired at 100 yds by Mike@Tier One. Pic 1- first 5 shots Pic 2- next 5 shots I've been skim bedding the action and need to adjust the scope mounting, so I haven't shot it yet. Specs: 6.5 Creedmoor Defiance Deviant short action Bartlein 5R barrel, stainless, M24/M40 profile, cut to 25", Surefire Socom brake Timney trigger, flat shoe, tuned to 2.0 lbs McRee Precision folding tactical chassis, Harris bipod Vortex Razor 5-20x scope, mil/mil, FFP and with the EBR 2 reticle Badger Ordinance 35mm rings Thanks for looking. Eric

Vicious, good luck with you new set up. As you can see, there are a few ways to do it and the decision comes down to your personal preferences. Hey, post a pic when you get it finished. Eric

I hear your opinion and, like you, ive done some vetting of you too. Like most, you/we all have some experience with guns. One thing for sure, you have very limited experience with optics. Lets move on. Eric

Eo tech mrds: http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/mini-red-dot-sight-mrds With a cantilevered scope mount for my primary optic, the 45 degree mount/mrds sits right over the charging handle. This is the optimum position since it cuts down on sighting transition issues going from the scope to the mrds or vice versa. Eric

Yes. Im guessing this set up is totally foreign to you also? Eric

For some reason, you are trying to discredit me and failing. We both said the same things i.e.poa vs poi or mechanical offset. You keep focusing on the hostage situation, which ive already conceded that only guys like you train regularly for this situation. Thing is, if the SHTF, most civilians, whether the rifle is canted or not, are not in a good spot to engage. Mechaical offset is the least of their problems. You keep focusing on a tiny, esoteric situation. I get that you may be trained in cqb situations. Possibly. One thing for sure, you know very little about scopes. Sorry. Eric

Also, High Exposure, I know you questioned my knowledge on optics because you don't know me. Well, I don't know you either but you did post this regarding FFP vs SFP in scopes: "Dumb question, and I think I know the answer, but - what's the difference? Follow up question, which is better and why? I am woefully lacking in knowledge regarding magnified optics, especially variable powered models." http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/75954-new-vortex-1-6-optic/#entry962137 To answer you question, FFP is "first focal point and SFP= second focal point, with regards to reticles. It all has to do with ranging a target. Ranging is a method of calulating the distance of a target by jsut using the reticle, if you know the size of the target. With FFP, you can range at any magnification. With SFP, usually you range at full power or half power only. Any other setting is not accurate with SFP. Whiel both have pluses and minuses, a FFP is generally more desirable. The only minus wiht FFP is that the reticle gets bigger or smaller, depending on magnification. At the highest setting, the reticle can get big enough wher it can partially obscure a tiny aimpoint. So, without sounding too confrontational, it appears that you don't know the very basics, regarding scopes/optics. What am I to think? Eric

Fair enough, I understand you don't know me from Adam... FWIW, I agree with most of what you say. I think we have a slight variation in set up preferences. You mentioned "moving targets". I addressed taht in my original post: "for the 50 yds and closer work,I like a holo/rds, especially if you are dealing with moving targets." The reason why I like the dual optic set up is that I feel it's more flexible. I know that the OP stated his "mission" was 50yds or closer. That calls for a very limited rifle. Outside of LE or Spec Op guys, who only has engagements in that range, exclusively? Perhaps I havea different definition of SHTF. For me, a true SHTF gun is not practical. IT'll mostly be a safe queen. My CQB AR is more like a 3gun setup-it can be used very well, for CBQ(EO Tech reflex) and I can still reach out a lil further for whatever reason necessary. either way, it's nice to have the option to use some magnification. You misunderstood my analogy of "shooting iron sights at 600 yds". The point was that while you can be accurate with irons, most(if not all) are better off with a magnified optic. As far as a 100% SHTF gun, I'll concede that a short, light carbine (or SBR, if you can) with a RDS is the way to go. On a 10 yd hostage situation, shooting with a 45 degree cant, bullet drop, windage, POA vs POI or anything are much less of a factor. A steady hold would be the biggest factor. But, if it were with my CQB AR, I would simply leave the magnification on 1x and use the scope. Then agian, this situation is not something that anyone outside of law enforcement should worry too much about. "SHTF" for civilians is mostly about defense (not offensive engagements), yes? Long story, short. For SHTF engagements, my sighting progression goes like this (with my set up): Scope-100yds or more Reflex-20yds to 100yds Point and shoot-under 20 yds Eric

Does the wifey ever wonder why you leave the house with an AR tucked under your shirt? Eric

Fridays are a half day, only. From 1p to 8p. Try to get there earlier, especially on the nicer days. I would say the Friday crowd bum rushes in around 5p. Eric

Maybe I read you wrong, but your first statement is pretty condescending. What if I asked you "can you even hit the broad side of an elephant's ass"? See what I'm saying? I never tried the VCOG. If anything, I was going with selecting one of the 3 choices that the OP asked us for. He didn't ask us to paint outside of the lines, otherwise, my preference for a 1-6x optic would be the Vortex Razor with the VMR2 MRAD reticle(on my cqb AR) and an EO TEch holo sight on a 45 deg mount, which happens to be what I'm running at the moment. Again, selected the VCOG because it's closest to my setup, which i feel *in my opinion* is the best way to go. Ringing 8" steel at 200 is not a big feat. How confident are you shooting 4" plates(or smaller) at 200? I know, when I shoot 4" plates, at 200, using a magnified glass...it's ridiculously easy. Regardless, the point is that while you may be able to do it, doesn't mean it's the best way to go. The guys shooting service rifle can make knots at 600yd, using iron sights. Is this the best way to engage a target at 600?? *edit-I agree that the high mounted reflex sight sucks. The 45 degree mount aint muhc better, BUT the idea is that you are only using it for very close engagements and/or close moving targets. When I say "close", I'm thinking within 20 yds. At 20 yds, i dont worry about rifle cant causing a miss. Eric