PoorSoulInJersey

Looking at that questions again a little closer.... technically I OWN a shotgun for home defense. I don't USE one for defense. We don't have Morlocks in my neighborhood that I and constantly defending my home ;-)

well, the M1A and PSL are the tallest. The Tikka is the coolest. The 1911's tend to work together, but argue about racial relations between blued and stainless. The GSG keeps getting compared to its bigger brother. The AR would be cooler if it had a 30 round mag instead of the little stubby 10 rd. The Saiga keeps insisting it's not a video game. The Beretta can't live down being taped to John McClane's back. They all have their issues. I'd pick one, but the others would all be mad at me.

We still get to vote? Geez, I thought they took that one away already.

I bought a shotgun there once. The guy waiting on me (and older guy, I think his name was Herman) was really nice and patient with me as I checked out half the guns he had. My only complaint about the place is most of the guns they had seemed older than I am. I didn't make it on to the range, but that's not why I was there. Their ammo prices seemed a bit high, but I didn't ask about memberships or anything like that. My home range, Hague's, is probably 15 minutes away from there.

Saiga 12 ga with a couple spare mags (loaded with buckshot).

You need an FID to buy ammo to take with you. You can buy it for use there without one.

Cherry Hill Dick's was out of the sale price .22, but had the 100 pack of Remington target 22LR for $9.99. Not quite as good a deal, but I took two!

You pretty much can't get a license to carry in NJ unless you're the governor.

why can't he have it in NJ? Is the gun illegal here? or is he prohibited from owning here?

Sure. You probably can't take anything out of the range (like ammo or firearms that you purchased there) but you could use them all you wanted!

Hello from Haddonfield

welcome!

What's the difference? You don't want 6, you want a half dozen? ;-)

I have no problem talking to the folks I know at a gun store and being open with them. "Hey, I found this same thing that you want $1599 for online for $1099. Can you move at all on the price?" If you're polite and have bought there before, most places are willing to work with you. If they don't, then I can understand not buying there. At the same time, if you're rude about it and they've never seen or heard of you before, they don't have much reason to budge. Remember, they can always sell it to someone else. They have to be willing to sell it to you for less than they could to someone else, and that usually means being a decent guy and/or having a history of buying with them. I expect to see online prices a little lower (maybe 15% or so) than local ones because of shipping warehouse vs. retail store business differences. If it gets beyond that (as it has recently for online firearms sales), I don't think the differences will last.

I usually stop when I have warmed up sufficiently and am shooting consistently tight groups. I prefer to stop while I'm doing well instead of when fatigue sets in and I'm barely hitting the paper.

I think I wrote that backwards. I agree that the NJ gun laws are a joke. I knew you meant it as a joke, I just didn't think that someone reviewing an application would accept any answer that was meant to be funny. They'd just go "oh, he was rejected by New Jersey" and reject the application.

It's quite all right. There are a lot more parts to a rifle that take some getting to know. A muzzle brake and a flash hider can be pretty hard to tell apart.

It could be a WASR 10. It looks like an AK with wood furniture, no bayonet lug, and a 10-round double stack magazine. As long as it's a 15-round or less mag, your fine. AK's are just like AR's. You can't have an actual AK-47 just like you can't have an actual Armalite AR-15. You can have clones as long as they are semi-auto and don't have any of the substantially identical items (bayonet lug, collapsible stock, etc).

Nope, no flashhiders or adjustable stocks. Why did you think you could? I'd guess he thought the muzzle brake was a flash hider and that the pinned collapsible stock actually worked. They can be a little hard to distinguish.

Nope. You can only have one item from "the list." If you have a flash hider, you can't have a pistol grip. If you have a pistol grip, you can't have a collapsible stock, etc.

I keep hearing how great they are. I just wish they weren't so far away!

You only asked about ammo. I don't have the energy for another thesis ;-) Dude, I'm gonna submit that post to one of my professors.... (I'm working on my MBA part time)

It's kind of none of the above. It's the simple economic concept of supply and demand. In "normal" times, supply and demand come to an equilibrium price where things remain calm for a while. People get used to a price, stores order based on that demand level, and manufacturers make enough to meet that demand level. At that price, people are both willing and able to buy a certain amount and manufacturers are both willing and able to sell a certain amount. It's when both things change in opposite directions at the same time that it gets ugly. 1) If there is less of something available and the same number of people want it, the price goes up 2) If there is less of something available and more number of people want it, the price goes up A LOT. 3) If there is more of something available and the same number of people want it, the price goes down. 4) If there is more of something available and fewer number of people want it, the price goes down A LOT. #1 and #3 are just normal cyclical corrective actions. When things get slightly out of whack, they tend to go back to normal. #2 and #4 tend to be bad and are indicative of a problem, either with sudden shortage and excess demand or excess supply and demand shortage. #2 is what's happening to the ammo market now. It also happens to some poor unknown toy each Christmas. #4 is what's happened to the housing market over the last few years (like most supply bubbles, a whole boatload of something becomes available and no one wants to pay what it was going for, so people take a loss just to sell it at all). When #2 happens, it's usually because no one saw it coming. Like the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers years ago, no one had any idea that they would be THAT insane of a hit. Even a couple month's notice wouldn't be enough to meet the enormous demand that occurred. Supply chains can't ramp up that fast. Every component along the way had to be ordered, shipped, processed, manufactured, packaged, distributed, and put on the shelf. When the suppliers see an increase coming, they can raise the prices, delay shipments, and generally mess with the buyers to get more money out of them. When this happens at each step of the way, it can seriously delay the process. The tin-foil types think the delays are intentional. It's usually because some market forecaster got it wrong. Weather forecasters can barely get the weather TOMORROW right. These folks have to guess what the market for some product will be months in advance. It's more luck than anything. Go to a toy store six months after a major movie with a toy line comes out. Some hit movies sell barely any toys at all. Imagine how the bad ones do. Someone got stuck with the bill for all that because someone guessed the demand would be higher than it was. Most companies are willing to risk manufacturing too little instead of too much. It pushes the risk/reward scale into their favor. It can take several months to get things moving just to make a more of a plastic toy that any plant with the right machines can make. I posit to you: how many factories do ammo manufacturers have? What are the regulatory requirements of opening a new production line? And just how many would YOU build if you were not sure how long the increased demand would last? Now, ammo doesn't expire really. Why not make a boatload of it and take the risk? Then you run the risk of not being able to pay your supplies if the demand drops and then you have to store a couple million rounds (incurring even more costs) Why not keep prices as they are? Why not be the low-price guy and keep prices down? Because no business wants to leave money on the table. If they can make the money now, and may not be able to make any money at all next month, they will make it now. If supply dries up, stores can take enough of a hit that they go out of business. The extra money made on the ammo this month might let them hang on a little longer. Would you rather pay a couple bucks extra for a box ammo or see your local range go out of business? They are both bad things, but you may e forced to choose between the two. It's the downside of economics. The deeper you dig, the more unintended consequences you find.

I doubt other state application reviewers would see it as a joke.

I picked it up at Hague's in Thorofare. It was priced a little high compared to the ones I could find online, at $1299, but they actually had one in stock, where most online places didn't (or wouldn't ship to NJ anyway).