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And how exactly are people supposed to get used to guns and the reality of the 2nd amendment being ever present right if you have to go around hiding them? I do not have to hide a printing press or a cross why should I hide a gun? Most people who want to open carry are not out there with the intent of waving gun rights in people's faces nor use it as a method of forcing it down people's throats. Most people who want to open carry just want to show that it is NORMAL for regular people to have guns. It is not like we are going around wearing huge hot pink neon signs on our backs pointing to our bright red holsters saying "I HAVE A GUN HERE!" nor wearing shirts that say "I HAVE A GUN DO YOU?". I find it a damn shame that you DO NOT have the CHOICE to open carry in certain free states (such as Texas) because of this mentality. The person carrying should have the CHOICE of whether to conceal or openly carry. Now there are certain situations where I would carry concealed as I thought it necessary but legislating laws to fix social fears or problems is the exact reason why we have the laws we do in New Jersey today. Does anyone have any data backing up the claim that open carry makes you more of a target? Criminals are really not looking to get into gun fights just for the hell of it. They want to pick the lowest risk target to commit crimes on.

What are the fees for the range?

The funny thing is this case that everyone keeps talking about was just talking about PDs not having to issue the card and permits until the FBI background check are back in. Nothing else was brought up as a hindrance (references etc) to a delay of an approval within 30 days (or immediately if the FBI was just received and it had been over 30 days). I just found this interesting when I went to search for the case a couple of days ago.

Is anyone else from here receiving emails from this mailing list and have not signed up for? Normally I disregard spam email but this is from a source local in New Jersey and I am pretty sure I have seen this name on this board before.

Just wondering but are all of the future NJ2AS meetings going to be on a Wednesday night from now on? If so I am probably never going to be able to attend any of them (400 mile round trip in the middle of the week is a No-Go for me).

+1 I made the last one (even though Monday was a stretch for me) but there was no way this time. Driving 4.5-5 hours one way in the middle of the week and then another 4.5-5 hours back is a bit ridiculous Also does anyone have meeting minutes or a recording that they can personally send to me?

How was the turn out? I am sorry that I could not make it.

From what I have read: Yes, only the renewal requires a psych exam every two years. It is for both types of carry. New Jersey does not care which one you do as long as you have a permit for it (unless the permit has a restriction on it that you can only do one or the other).

Just as a note to everyone: The Assembly version of the Senate bill was just introduced by two other democrats to the committee on the 7th. Assembly Bill: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2010/Bills/A3500/3322_I1.HTM Status: 10/7/2010 Introduced, Referred to Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee

It is slow on purpose! Enjoy it! Appreciate it! haha

Vz-58 For The Win! The Vz-58 is one sexy rifle in general (This is a tactical modern version). For those who do not know what this is: Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58 ALSO: Title: The Making of 120mm Projectiles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjInoAmZHyg

Is the place always crowded during this time? That is one of the big turnoffs I have with going to Bullet hole (especially since that place can get super cramped).

No I am just wondering how much ammo people bring to these all day shoots I think the Sun will supernova before I ever get to go to one of these.

How much ammo do you normally bring for an all day shoot?

WASHINGTON — U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) today led a bipartisan group of Senators including Senators Mike Enzi (R-WY), Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-OK), and others in sending a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, urging her to reverse the State Department’s reported decision to ban the sale of surplus antique rifles from South Korea to qualified buyers in the United States. The letter was also sent to Attorney General Eric Holder and Acting Director Kenneth Melson of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE). Source: http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=NewsReleases&ContentRecord_id=1a261ab9-9884-42e1-bb95-b2cfa31c078f&ContentType_id=b94acc28-404a-4fc6-b143-a9e15bf92da4&Group_id=24eb5606-e2db-4d7f-bf6c-efc5df80b676&MonthDisplay=10&YearDisplay=2010

Alright thanks!

Unfortunately I do not think I am going to be able to make this meeting since it is in the middle of the work week (and not on a weekend or a Monday like last time). I am almost 200 miles one way from where this meeting takes place lol. Can we have minutes taken down or have someone record the audio from the meeting?

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: I have watched that video dozens of times when I want to laugh at the extreme level of ignorance of the people making gun laws. That lady just has a political vendetta after what happened to her husband and son. It was sad but maybe they would have lived if someone around them was carrying.

Title: S2264 Revises qualifications and requirements for permits to carry a handgun. Source: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2010/Bills/S2500/2264_I1.HTM

Click the links see for yourself. Someone registered them and did that. It is obviously someone who is affiliated with/likes the Brady Campaign or is antigun (or this is a practical joke lol but it is not April 1st). This was also just registered a couple of days ago: Whois Server Version 2.0 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Domain Name: NJGUNFORUM.COM Registrar: ENOM, INC. Whois Server: whois.enom.com Referral URL: http://www.enom.com Name Server: NS1.PIPEDNS.COM Name Server: NS2.PIPEDNS.COM Status: ok Updated Date: 11-sep-2010 Creation Date: 11-sep-2010 Expiration Date: 11-sep-2011 >>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 04:48:51 UTC <<<

Yeah, apparently we are making enough noise for The Brady Campaign to know about us and try to take away traffic via misspelled domains.

http://www.njgunforum.com http://njgunforum.com The Brady Campaign has registered these domains and have redirects to their own website hahahaha

Not happening. They will definitely open themselves up to lawsuits if they do lol ( the AWB is probably going to be challenged anyway especially after McDonald ). IIRC They have not changed it since it was enacted 20 years ago. The list is pretty complete as it is. Adding the Bushmaster M4 profile carbine would just be redundant as the AR15 platform itself is already covered under the list.

I'll second this recommendation. Seth is a great guy to deal with. +1 for Seth as well

Yeah..I think I will just leave this right here for everyone to read: Dear Ted: First, I personally thank you for the valuable work you have done, and are doing, for the Second Amendment. You have used your talent, success, wit, and celebrity to fight for our freedoms. Additionally, you are a member of the Board of Directors of the NRA. So this letter is directed to you in strictly that capacity. Why? Because I believe that you will listen. And you have the standing and respect within the NRA to actually do something regarding the issues I