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Thought I would update everyone on my baby steps in preparation for conceal carrying during an upcoming ride into PA. -This week received my Texas "License to Carry Handgun" permit. (For details, refer to my thread in the Training forum.) (I do realize my recently acquired NH permit would work fine as well.) - I plan on carrying IWB. Purchased a Bigfoot gun belt. Their 1.5" width, 14oz, with steel band version. Excellent quality. I normally wear 34" jeans(well ok ok, my waistline is getting to be more like 36,lol) so ordered the belt in 40" length. Perfect size. Glad I did not order the 38" size. The 40", with an IWB holster, let me use the middle of the 7 belt holes. So plenty of adjustment on either side of that hole. Also bought a pair of 36" waist jeans to accommodate the holster. - Purchased an Alien Gear 3.0 IWB holster and have been trying it around the house in various positions. - Also have purchased, but not yet received a Vedder LightTuck Kydex IWB holster. Will be trying that out as well. They both have a 30 day money back guarantee. However, may keep both as there are pros and cons to each. - So far I think I prefer Appendix carry as opposed to the 4:00 o'clock position. With the 4:00 position, I feel mentally uncomfortable. I find it awkward to draw, awkward to reholster, and most of all I cannot see/tell what is going on back there from a printing & concealment perspective. In contrast, these aspects all feel fine with the AIWB position. However, the jury is still out with respect to physical comfort. I need to try different AIWB positions(height, cant, etc.) to minimize the gun digging into my groin or ribcage. - Lastly I plan to attend the Gun Law Seminar being held this evening at the VFW in Brick. It is being hosted by Garden State Shooting Center and U.S. Law Shield. Any of you also signed up and planning to be there?

Your point is spot-on. I have no doubt that having to remove the firearm (under threat of becoming imprisoned as a felon) before crossing back over the border will have me feeling acutely disrespected, oppressed by, and unwanted by, the state I was born, raised, and have grown up in. Sad state of affairs.

I am pleased to report that my "Texas License To Carry Handgun" arrived in the mail today. The full timeline was as follows: - 12/29/2016: Submitted my online application to the Texas DPS. - 1/04/2017: Fingerprints taken at IdentoGO in Dallas, Tx. - 1/07/2017: Training class taken in Dallas, Texas. - 1/17/2017: Mailed supplemental materials (e.g. passport photos, etc.) to the Texas DPS via USPS Certified mail. - 1/21/2017: Supplemental materials arrived at the Texas DPS. *** The wait clock starts ticking here. *** - 2/10/2017(approx): Status first appears on the Texas DPS website. Shows all steps completed(Green) and the last step "Print Pending" - 2/15/2017: Status shows as "Mailed". - 2/21/2017: Received Texas "License to Carry Hangun" in the mail.

I believe there are two versions of the Glock 26 Bluegun, one Gen3(#FSG26) and the other Gen4(#FSG26G4). It was the latter I was trying to find. Having said that, I am not sure what the differences are and whether it matters with respect to holster drills.

I went online this evening to order a Glock 26 Gen4 Bluegun. Specifically part#FSG26G4 manufactured by Ring's Manufacturing. Was surprised and disappointed to learn that Glock's contract with Ring's prevents them or their distributors from selling them to the public. As a result I was unable to find anyone online that had them in stock and was willing to sell them to the public. I have a LEO in my family. Will have to speak with him and see if he can purchase one my behalf.

It is Divide by 1.2. E.g. if you do not want to spend more than $1000 total, you should not bid more than 1000/1.2= $833.34. The 20% uplift on 833.34 brings you back to the $1000.

Thanks. Btw, I checked the status this morning and it said that it has been mailed. Now I will really be watching my mailbox!

For me, no effort at all compared to the sense of reward and satisfaction exercising a right which I am denied here in NJ. Regards. Btw, welcome to njgunforums.

Points well taken. Thank you. As suggested, I am inclined to just carry in my home and property to get some initial experience doing so. May also look into acquiring a blue gun for holster draw, drills, etc.

As I have expressed in another thread, my goal is to conceal carry for the first time within the next few months(in PA). Am in process of acquiring holster, gun belt, etc for my Glock 26 which should arrive in a few days. My specific question for this thread is your thoughts on practicing conceal carry here in NJ using a blue gun. I.e. To verify fit, comfort, holster positioning, etc in various everyday activities. PA is a 90 minute drive for me so an adhoc ride there is impractical. I did search on this topic and did not find anything. Your thoughts on potential issues, legal or otherwise, great idea/stupid idea, all welcome. Thanks, Art

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An update. Just checked the status on the Texas DPS website (pasted below). Looks like I am good to go! Time to start watching my mailbox. Note that it took almost three weeks for the website to show any status at all. So they do not update it at each step. Hence patience is called for. Choose ServiceLICENSE APPLICATION STATUS: If you have a pending License to Carry a Handgun application, please allow sufficient time for processing. If you have not already done so, please submit all of the items listed on the checklist you received. DPS will notify you by mail if further information or additional documents are required. Once the application and documents have been received by Handgun Licensing and processing has begun, a more detailed status will appear on this page. License Application Status: Application packet has been received from the applicant, the application is in progress. Application : Received Fingerprints : Received Affidavits : Received DL or ID : Valid Citizenship : No documentation required Passport Photo Holder (Out of State Only) : Received Photo (Out of State Only) : Received Proof of Classroom training : Received Proof of Proficiency training : Received Fee : Received Background Check : Completed License To Carry A Handgun : Print Pending

Appreciate the feedback. For my first time I will likely go to EFGA, do some shooting, then spend a few hours conceal carrying doing shopping, photography(my other hobby), etc. For my return, will stop back to EFGA and store my firearm for travel back into NJ. JohnnyB: my rationale for originally joining EFGA was similar to what you expressed. I.e. if I am traveling West and get stopped, that's where I would be going.

I am in fact a member of EFGA although have only been there once do to the distance. Definitely a good option for the reasons you mentioned, especially for the return trip.

I am an experienced NJ firearms owner and shooter, but am a concealed carry novice. Recently obtained my NH non-resident permit, and within 6 weeks also expect to receive my Texas non-resident License to Carry(for details on that, see my thread in the Training section.). So am covered as far as permits for PA are concerned. My goal in the coming months is to conceal carry my handgun in Pennsylvania. This will be my first experience with conceal carry. Hence being very careful about it as I learn and develop experience. My question here specifically relates to logistics upon crossing the border into Pa and similarly when later crossing back into NJ. I would appreciate hearing others advice based on their experience. Pardon what might appear to be very basic questions or of undue concern. Afterall, I do in live in “no unreasonable deviation NJ” where I have to worry about bathroom breaks. So let’s say I drive into PA on, for example, Route 78. Where is the best place (e.g. rest area) to pull into. I am familiar with the rest area/visitors center just over the border. Should I stop there? Is it fine to retrieve my gun bag from the trunk and load the mag & transition it to my holster while inside my vehicle. Or is it preferred to do so in a rest room stall. The flipside is when returning, where along Rt 78 should I transition the gun back to the trunk before hitting the bridge into NJ? Is there a rest area on the Pa side near the border? Would not want to accidently find myself crossing back into NJ before doing so. (I am also separately addressing the holster for my Glock 26, gun belt, larger jeans, training, etc. aspects.) Any and all advice and suggestions welcome. My goal will be to spend an afternoon anywhere in PA doing some photography, shopping, etc. Perhaps do a “Wally Walk”, which I just learned yesterday is a conceal carry right of passage. Thank you, Art

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On yesterday's Gun for Hire podcast, there was a segment with Scott Bach and Dan Schmutter Esqs discussing the New Hampshire Non-resident permit process. Recommend listening to it if you are planning to apply.

This has been my experience as well. They have always had what they said they have in inventory and have come thru. Even when 22lr was very scarce. Just required patience. I followed up my order with a scanned copy of my FID sent to them via email.

Did you have to register it with the FAA? I heard that is a requirement now.

Done.

I purchased a Glock 26 in anticipation of conceal carrying at some point in the future. Already have a G34 and G19. So it rounded out my Glock collection. Will likely try doing so in PA sometime this year. I am in my 60s and carrying is on my bucket list. I have my NH permit and also just mailed my documentation in for my Texas non-resident permit, also recognized by Pa. . (Took the training class in Dallas. For details, refer to my post in the Training Forum.).

Tom, I posted the details above. Would be happy to answer any questions you may have. PM me whenever needed.

I own a Ruger GP100 22LR stainless steel revolver and love it. (I also own a Glcok 19, 34, & 26; all 9mm.) I also recommend you consider the new "Ruger Mark IV Hunter" and "S&W Victory" 22LR pistols. Check YouTube. There are a gazillion gun review videos available. Welcome to the community. Be sure you know the transportation laws as they relate to handguns and hollow point bullets. Plenty of threads on this forum. Feel free to PM me and I will elaborate.

I have mailed in the required materials to the Texas Dept of Public Safety. I promised to provide details on the process and my perspective for future reference by this community. The usual IANAL and YMMV caveats apply. So here goes. A logical high level sequence is as follows: 1) Fill out and submit an online application on the Texas Dept of Public Safety website. 2) a) Make your finger printing appointment with an IdentoGo location in Texas. b) Research, select, and register into a LTC class in Texas. (Further details below.) 3) Familiarize yourself with, and practice for, the shooting qualification. 4) Travel to Texas. 5) Get finger printed at IdentoGo. 6) Take the Texas License to Carry Class. You will receive a completed and signed CHL-100 form. That is the critical document you need to come home with. 7) Travel home. 8) Get passport photos taken (e.g. at Costco). 9) Assemble all the required documents and mail(USPO) in your application. Note: Step #2 needs to follow step #1. If you don’t like reading long posts, stop reading here, lol. Details on each step are as follows: STEP#1: SUBMIT ONLINE APPLICATION The URL is: https://txapps.texas.gov/txapp/txdps/chl/ The first web page provides an overview of what is required for the application. Have your NJ driver’s license handy along with your credit card. The fee is $140. If you are over 60 years old, it is only $70. Make sure the name you enter matches your driver’s license. (In my case: First name, middle initial, Last name) At the end of the online application process, a “Checklist” page will appear. Print a copy for yourself. You will also receive a confirmation email. STEP#2: A) MAKE FINGERPRINTING APPOINTMENT After submitting the online application you will receive an email from “unenroll.identogo.com” containing a link to schedule your appointment with IdentoGo. This email will take anywhere from 2 hour to 48 hours to arrive. I recommend you wait to receive it. If you contact IdentoGo prematurely, they may not yet have received your New Jersey DL information from the Texas DPS. Once you receive the email, go ahead and schedule your fingerprinting appointment at an IdentoGo location IN TEXAS. (Trying to have your prints done in NJ and transferring them to Texas may be problematic so I do not recommend this.). B) Research, select, and register for an LTC training/certification class. (See details in Step#6 below.) STEP#3: Practice for the Shooting Qualification portion of the training. Range practice is optional but I strongly recommend you familiarize yourself with the test and scoring in advance of the class. The course of fire is described here: http://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/LicenseRegistration/chlQualCourse.pdf Here is a good YouTube video: STEP#4: TRAVEL TO TEXAS. I recommend you allow enough time to get fingerprinted one day and take the training on the next day. (I.e. trying to fit in both on the same day may be a challenge.) STEP#5: GET FINGERPRINTED. Get your fingerprinting done per the appointment you made above. You will need to show your NJ driver’s license. The fee for fingerprinting is approx. $11 and is payable at the time of your appointment. Bring a credit card. They will give you a finger printing receipt which you should keep. The appointment itself takes 10-15 minutes. STEP#6: TAKE THE TRAINING CLASS: There are many providers of this training in Texas. In the Dallas area, I used DFW Concealed Carry (https://www.dfwconcealedcarry.com/). The class ran from 9:00 until approx. 5:00 PM. It was comprised of 4-5 hours of class time followed by a 25 question multiple choice test. They teach straight through with occasional 5 minute breaks, no lunch break. Bring your own water, food, snacks, etc. into the classroom with you. Class size was approx. 15 people. Then we drove about 10 minutes to a nearby range where we took the shooting qualification test. Best if you bring 50 rounds of ammo with you. (I bought a box at Bass Pro the night before.) Or you can likely purchase it at the range. Four people at a time took the test. If you pass both the written test and shooting test, you will leave with your “CHL-100 Certificate of Training” in hand. I brought my own eye and ear protection with me to Texas; but not my firearm. Confirm in advance that they will rent you a firearm. In my case, the instructor let me use his Glock 17. (I have a Glock 19, so that was perfect.) Also, and importantly, if you normally use a Maglula to load your mags, bring it with you. Due to arthritis in my hands I have difficult loading magazines. Note that, per my instructor, the state requires that you demonstrate your ability to load three rounds by hand. I did so, then used my Maglula to load the other 47 rounds. STEP#7: TRAVEL HOME. Travel home with your CHL-100 form and your IdentoGo receipt. STEP#8: PASSPORT PHOTOS If don’t already have them, go and get passport photos taken. STEP#9: SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION MATERIALS BY USPO MAIL. Mail in all the required documentation as per the Checklist you were sent at the time you submitted your online application(Step#1). In general your mailing will be comprised of: 1) The CHL-100 form. (I submitted the original copy.) 2) A filled out CHL-6 form. Open the blank PDF, type in your info, then print it. 3) A copy of your NJ driver’s license. 4) Your passport photo. 5) A copy of your IdentoGo receipt. 6) A copy of the confirmation/checklist page from Step#1. Note that having to submit the passport photo precludes submitting these materials by email. And that’s it! Congratulations and Good Luck!