CommonSense

Anyone have experience in obtaining a duplicate FID to replace a lost one? I've heard it's just like applying for an original; references, wait time, etc.

Took a bolt action rifle to the range and left the bolt at home! I had been storing the bolt separate from the rifle for safety and security reasons.

I've owned, fired and/or handled many 870's over the years; Wingmaster, Express and Police Magnum models. I was always an 870 guy. Just the other day, I handled a no-frills 18" 500 in a store. I was very favorably impressed with the smooth action, light weight, location of the safety and slide release and the way the stock fitted my body. If I was currently looking for a new pump, I would get the 500.

I agree. Rugers are very strong ; but Smiths have nicer triggers.

686 is L frame. As others have said, 686 or GP-100 are good all-around choices.

I prefer a J-Frame S&W over any 380. I like the concealed hammer lightweights; the 642 and 340. The 642 is a good value; but the even lighter Scandium framed 340 is pretty expensive. The 340 is chambered in 357; but firing 357 in this superlight gun results in HUGE recoil and makes the gun uncontrollable in a defensive scenario. As GRIZ says, 38 target wadcutter is a very capable defense round. 340 and 442 Satin Nickel

The bottom line is this: The more responsible, trained gun owners and carriers (LEO and civilian) that we have; the better for all of us.

New Jersey would ignore it!

Before you think about mods, put a good quantity of ammo through it and make sure it is 100% reliable. Then you must test fire after each mod to make sure the modded gun is reliable. A tricked-out firearm that is not reliable is pretty darn useless. Please note that there have been extraction /ejection issues with recent 870's; and some people recommend replacing the MIM extractor with a forged, milled steel one, as Rifleman1 has done. But again, shoot it before you change anything and test reliability; you might find an issue that will be covered under warranty.

While it is not an "authoritative" source, I recently found this on Wikipedia under "LEOSA": "an individual who qualifies under LEOSA does not require a state-issued permit for carrying a concealed firearm in any state, including that person's home state. This is because LEOSA, by its terms, provides in its introductory paragraphs (Sections 926B(a) and Section 926C(a)) that notwithstanding the law of "any State" a person who qualifies under LEOSA is not subject to the concealed carry laws of any state. Some officials, such as in New Jersey, believe that a retired officer residing in NJ must still obtain a state issued permit, in effect nullifying LEOSA. However, that view assumes New Jersey law is not preempted by LEOSA. That view has no support in the LEOSA statute itself, by its terms, or in any published court case to date. Furthermore, LEOSA's legislative history indicates that its framers intended LEOSA to supersede all states' laws, including the home state of the individual claiming its exemption. For example, Congress declared LEOSA's purpose was to implement "national measures of uniformity and consistency" and allow officers to carry a concealed firearm "anywhere within the United States." H.R. Rep. 108-560 at p. 4. In addition, Congress rejected efforts to allow states to opt-out of LEOSA. See H.R. Rep. 108-560 at pp. 7-8, 29-37; Sen. Rep. 108-29 at p.7. The House of Representatives also defeated, and the Senate refused to consider, proposed amendments aimed at preserving local law enforcement agencies' discretion to regulate "the conditions under which their officers may carry firearms." See H.R. Rep. 108-560 at pp. 8-9, 37-45, Sen. Rep. 108-29 at pp. 6-7. Thus, both the words of LEOSA and its legislative intent clearly establish that LEOSA applies nationwide, including the home state of the individual."

Therein lies a big part of the problem; too ambiguous, subjective and open to anyone's particular interpretation at the moment.

"some usual nj ridiculousness" Amen, brother

Amen

Charter Arms version of the ubiquitous S&W Model 36 Chief Special. Same size as the Smith; but has nowhere near the track record. But don't get me wrong; I wish you luck with it.

They're all good. The 9's and 40's are pretty much the same size in the various size classes; full size, compact and sub compact. So you have the 17 and 22, the 19 and 23, and the 26 and 27. The 27 (subcompact 40) has snappy recoil and is difficult to control. The 45's and 10mm's are built on a larger frame and to me are kind of too big for a carry gun and a little too big for my hand, which is glove size XL. Exceptions to the size parameters are the .45 Model 36 Slimline and the new .45 Model 30 S. These use a slide that is close in size to the slide of the 9mm Model 19. My pick for the best all-around Glock is the Model 19; very shootable and handles like an extension of your hand. It is inexpensive, light, ergonomic and reliable.

This might help: http://www.freshfromflorida.com/Divisions-Offices/Licensing/Consumer-Services/Concealed-Weapon-License/States-Recognizing-Florida-License

The 642 is the absolutely best choice in your price range. For reliability and liability purposes, leave it bone stock! Practice to get used to the trigger. I'm not going to give you my resume; but trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

1. Extra steps in manufacturing 2. Marketing!

I did a little quick research on this. The fact is, NJ had already classified air rifles as "firearms", and a "silencer" (suppressor) is a "silencer". Hence the memo, and it was issued in response to questions.. A suppressed air rifle fits NJ's definition of an assault weapon. Sounds ridiculous, but when an air rifle is a "firearm", the rest is sound reasoning.

Not necessarily true. NJ has voluntary registration. If you move into New Jersey with guns that you owned legally in another state and they're NJ-legal guns, you can bring them into NJ and keep them in your NJ home without telling anyone about them. You could be the legal owner without ever getting an FID or P2P!

You have a reference for this? Are the state police now authorized to make legal rulings? I would say at best it is their opinion.

Don't go looking for sense; you won't find it.

Why can't we get our law makers to change the law!

And NJSP says that a retired officer with a permit is a "civilian" and cannot carry hollow points! Zeesh... :wild:

I just have to bring this up again. If you can carry at home and you can carry at YOUR business, can your gun be loaded with hollow points? I think all agree it is legal at home; but at your place of business it would not seem to be. Oh, these NJ firearms laws! I'm getting a headache...