Maksim

So to take this convo in a slightly different direction, trout and I were shooting last night at BA, Brick armory for those that didnt catch on to all the other posts, hehe, and obviously they didnt have a serious problem with collecting the brass. What has been other people's experience with it? Didnt Ray's have a thing against collecting own brass? For places that sell reload ammo, I am sure that brass comes in handy. I know up at the Bullet Hole in bellevile, Manny reloads... With a revolver it is easy to collect own brass, but what about autoloaders in a place that frowns upon it? btw, does BA sell reloaded ammo? didnt see.

welcome sir

I see more and more questions on this, and with the growth in the board activity and membership, it is a good time to expand the topic base a little. I will be moving over some ammo related posts into here as well. -Maksim

I say party at Trout's house.... he shows us how to reload... we pay him in brass. =P

btw, one thing that totally threw me off. Even though the prices at Cheyenne are higher on ammo, if you want to sell anything, the consignment commission they charge is only 10%. Most other places are 20% at least.

and by "he", trout means his coworker. I had a chance to shoot those, and the 1911 was amazing.... the xd 40 didnt feel like an xd. the .38.... um, my hand/arm is still in pain from those loads.

may be anectodal but if 9mm ammo is more easily found now... I am sure this will come as well. All 3 places I visited recently had CCI 9mm ammo in, in fact, more and more.

Was a great time.

EHS edison high or Elizabeth High? =P

Lets try this again, as per member feedback.

very nice, introduce him to the sport and tell him to sign on here. =P I would love to be there but I will be at the general meeting at CRRC in West Windsor. Otherwise, I am refinishing the banner just to make it a bit more patriotic. =P

I am so there. Make it an NJGF event?

All the way on the right on the counter, the only thing they had left was a bunch of CCI Blazers, alum casings for $11.99. didnt see others... they might of just gotten them in. I left Sportsmen's around 1pm? Then shot up to Cheyenne and hung out there, talked to the staff and owners... went to office around 2pm. See, worst part about it, I was visiting a client who owns a pool shop across the street from Sportsmen's , and how can I not stop in? Met a 70? year old gentleman buying a S&W M&P 40 as his first gun... didnt know how to rack the slide. Usually the staff there is very good, but they were on vacation and had a young kid who just applied for his fid... I know you want to get the sale... but come on... I would of said 9mm, in a steel beretta, alot less kick, and more forgiving gun, over a 40s&w, To put it in perspective, dropped by Cheynne, and there was a 40 year old or so lady buying her first handgun and rifle... the young guy there, took half an hour, after paperwork and selling the gun, to show her how to use it, how it tears down, and wouldnt let her go out of the store until she was able to field strip the gun, put it back together. Say what you want, but not one of the staff that I encountered at Cheynne, I would not trust with helping my mother buy a first handgun. Sportsmen's, you have a relationship with the two guys there, nothing more. Ammo prices... alot better though, hehe. CCI blazer 9mm, non reloadable alum, Sportsmen's $11.99, $12.49 for CCI Blazer Brass, Cheynne $15 for CCI Blazer cheap stuff. btw, if you are in the market for a reasonably priced Desert Eagle .50 AE, they got one there, used, $1100. Awesome trigger.

Ok, so they are subbing the American Eagle as well. Nice. I went to the freehold one, and the guy told me they were not. I will drop by my Dick Sports and pick up a case then. Still cheaper then buying online and paying shipping. It was all brass right?

Though it was only a box. Sportsman Center in Bordentown, had one box of 9mm CCI Blazer Brass for $12.49. They did have 2 boxes that I saw of CCI Blazer aluminum for $11.99 Dicks sells for $14.99... I honestly was surprised to see it that low. Even though Natchezss has it online for $10 or so a box, add in shipping, so unless you are ordering 10 boxes or more, makes sense.

those are crazy prices... though the shops renting full auto ak's sure are making money.

Absolutely.

these were the others I was working with. a few edits were lost...

Whats wrong with dragunov? =P Advise taken, I will add another one in there...

Yes No? Comments? btw, refresh your internet explorer if old one still shows up.

after speaking with you in private, and knowing what part of town your business is in, and even though on the border of a very very very nice town... I would still in your case. My only question, do you have to carry it concealed or open?

I actually spoke with John and a few others about setting up an IDPA league there... they will talk to Milton to see what they can do. The biggest hurdle is what day? As they are open daily for members and open walk on daily until 10pm.

had a great time.... met a few new people, including a fellow with a new cz 75 sp-01

going there now if anyone wants to stop by say hello. Will be introducing gf to shooting. Blue jeans, black longsleeve shirt.

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