Wile E Coyote

1. Application type (FID/permit w/ existing FID). Initial FPID & 2 P2P 2. Police Department where you applied. Ocean City 3. Name of the person you dealt with at the PD. Detective Pancoast 4. Time taken to issue FID and/or permit. 79 - 81 Days / 11.5 weeks. I got the call they were done and picked up at the PD two days after they were dated. 5. Documents required by the PD (aside from the standard application and the mental health release form). None 6. Notes - anything pertaining to the application process (unforeseen difficulties, chief of police calling your home, you hiring an attorney, etc). Took approx. 6 weeks for references to receive their letters in the mail. Permits were issued a week after I left a message asking if my reference letters made it back through the mail to the station. Other than that the process was painless and Det. Pancoast was helpful.

1. Application type (FID/permit w/ existing FID). Initial FPID & 2 P2P 2. Police Department where you applied. Ocean City 3. Name of the person you dealt with at the PD. Detective Pancoast 4. Time taken to issue FID and/or permit. 79 - 81 Days / 11.5 weeks. I got the call they were done and picked up at the PD two days after they were dated. 5. Documents required by the PD (aside from the standard application and the mental health release form). None 6. Notes - anything pertaining to the application process (unforeseen difficulties, chief of police calling your home, you hiring an attorney, etc). Took approx. 6 weeks for references to receive their letters in the mail. Permits were issued a week after I left a message asking if my reference letters made it back through the mail to the station. Other than that the process was painless and Det. Pancoast was helpful.

Look on the bright side, at least your PD contacted you about not getting them.

If they embedded the endorsement in your DL's barcode, every FFL in the state would be required to by a device to read it. Currently DL readers run a couple hundred dollars minimum. KISS - keep it simple, stupid. Just give us a separate ID that looks just like a DL, but has an bar that reads "Firearms Purchaser ID" instead of "Auto Driver License," uses our DL photo, and have it printed at the DMV. They already have the infrastructure there and if you leave it to the NJSP or local PD to print, the completed applications will literally sit there for days before the card is run through a machine the officer will have no idea how to run let alone fix if it malfunctions. Not to fear, this is NJ and we're talking about a firearm related issue so our politicians will either willfully make it completely onerous or will screw it up out of total incompetence.

When it comes to the fingerprinting policy, it is left up to the discretion of the local PD's whether or not they have you re-printed. Nothing illegal about it. Most common excuse for reprinting I've heard around here is 1) FPID address change when a different PD did the initial FPID and 2) every 5 years when applying for FPID/P2P's.

The 7th Circuit ruled that an outright ban on carrying firearms in public is unconstitutional. The 2nd & 4th Circuit's ruled that "may issue" restrictions are constitutional. The way I look at it, right now there isn't a disagreement among the Federal Circuit Courts when it comes to "may issue." Hopefully, the 3rd Circuit rules in our favor and changes that.

If I were you, I'd try to arrange a meeting with your Chief before putting in for your FPID and see what he says.

Here's the yet to be unveiled state of the art NJ FPID card: And the computers each FFL will need to buy to check the punched cards: Hey, they did say it'd be electronic...

Sounds like Mr. Mayor was trying to catch a load in his mouth, but ended up putting one in the floor instead.

I think what it comes down to is this: If your firearm is legally possessed and/or carried, the HP's in that firearm are legal. If your firearm is illegally possessed and/or carried, the HP's in that firearm are likely illegal. The fact that these topics pop up repeatedly is a testament to how confusing and ridiculous NJ gun laws are.

Also, dug up one of the old deadly force discussions: http://njgunforums.c...__fromsearch__1

Here's the relevant statute: Read the whole thing, but take special note of the bold text. Without being a legal professional, I think the general consensus is that drawing down on an intruder with a firearm and telling them to prone out is completely lawful. If they try to run back out the door and you shoot them, you'd have a tough time coming up with an acceptable explanation to the prosecutor/judge/jury on why you employed deadly force on a retreating perpetrator.

According to the news story, the husband and wife had their child in the car while they were shooting holes in a vehicle full of teenagers. He deserves whatever he gets, possibly more, and I hope she is prosecuted to the full extent as well..

You can apply for as many as you want. See http://njgunforums.c...not-be-limited/. As far as your local PD is concerned, 1 P2P is handled exactly like 10 P2P's. 2 is an arbitrary number and is, quite frankly, illegal.