chuckdeez

I dont hate all cops. I dont hate most cops. I dont hate you, or any of the cops on here. Here comes the tired internet line "I have friends who are ___________, in this case LEO" They are absolutely no different from me, other than they get to carry a gun daily. And point me to my tough talk please. I've gotten pretty far in life without having to be 'saved' by anyone. But if I did, the fact I pay taxes, property and otherwise, gives me the luxury of requesting a first responder in good concience. You are taking it personal becasue I criticized members of your profession. Your s/n is Blue Line, I get it. You are proud of your profession. But its not about you. Its about guys like the Ohio CCW cop, and in my opinion, these two guys. Its about this incident and others like it. I shouldve qualified all this from the gate. But yes, we can all move on now. Everyone got their shots in.

Presumably in your hypothetical scenario, I'm a regular guy at my local fast food place with my family, Im lucky enough to CCW, and unlucky enough to run across this guy who raises a pipe bender to my head. Yes, Im absolutely shooting him. But what actually happened, was these are TWO trained LEO, with nonlethal options, a k9, no potential victim in immediate jeapordy, and what appears to be a decent amount of time to possibly have set up their positions a bit more tactically so that their best option wasnt 10 rounds point blank against a dude with no gun. Im not going to defend my position anymore. I realize Im in the minority, and many of you appear ok with this kind of policing in your community. If I offended anyone with my initial comments that I deleted, than I apologize. They were deleted for a reason.

Yes, I did indeed write F pigs. I deleted it once I realized that Im in the minority here, seeing as everyone was pretty stoked to watch this guy get lit up by 8-10 shots, half of which were on his way down. Where did the rest of those shots go? Bet they all didnt land where they were supposed to. What about the public at large, yknow, who these guys get paid well to protect and serve? Were they best served by these cops lighting up the street to take down some guy at point blank distance when they had other tools at their disposal? Yes, I agree that it looks like they 'tried' pepper spray or whatever. Maybe if they didnt suck at their jobs they couldve taken this guy down without 10 rounds at point blank range. It seemed excessive, especially when cop #2 opened up. Yes, I agree that I wasn't there blah blah. This video has 4 pages of hindsight analysis but mine is "wrong"? Lunatic cops are just as scary as punks with crowbars. Worse. Ohio CCW video? Whatever, its just my opinion. Im the only one here who ever made a blanket statement about a group of people based on the bad actions of a few? Get real.

clearly im in the wrong place.

nevermind.

Let's talk about how we don't get one fackin guest pass for our money either. Not one. That's how new shooters get introduced by the way. I've taken at least 3 different people up there since 09. One is now a gun owner, and the other is looking into the permit process. I've said it before, but there's almost no benefit for me to take someone to my home range, where I pay annual membership fees, rather than RTSP. Total bs.

Man. This would've been my ideal pickup. I was in the market for one a few months back, and wound up picking up the Bersa Thunder 22. Great gun, but only with minimags so far. Everything else, not so much. If what redneck santa said is true, the SR22 works with the bulk packs too. It looks just like a p22. I wonder if ruger is really making it themselves.

Last I checked, the work weekend offered a laughably nominal reduction in your yearly fees, totally disproportionate to the time invested.

Oh look. Theres some room on top of this pile. Think I'll jump right in. Why cant they throw us a couple guest passes to go along with our memberships? Seriously. For the $25.00 its gonna cost me to bring one of my boys or wifey too an outing at Cherry Ridge, I can splurge another 5 bucks and bring that person to RTSP for an hour instead, without a membership. Theres something seriously wrong with that. And no, I dont need a family membership for the 2x a year thats going to happen, although with the price of guest passes I might as well. Thats super lame, and really makes me pissed that I even re-upped my membershit for 2012.

Looks good. I applaud you for being able to take the plunge. I had one in my hand shortly before picking up my used 617. The example I held had a hammer that looked off center, and had a craaaaaaaaaazy heavy trigger. Heres the rub. My 617 doesn't have a great trigger either. Single action is appropriately crisp, but DA is also heavy, but fairly smooth once you get it started rearward. I cant imagine the taurus being much heavier. Post some groups.

I like the place. I just think it sucks shooting indoors next to the guy with either the 12 gauge or AR. Yeah I get it. It's a gun range. But other than finding out your weapon works, what is it going to tell you to shoot a rifle at 25 yards? Congratulations, you just made a lot of noise and learned nothing about how your weapon groups at realistic rifle range distances. So now that we established you're not really here to practice shooting, you should stay home and light m80s in your garage with the door closed.

Appreciate the responses. Trying to convice "santa" I need an electric thrower now.

I have been a member there for a few years, but don't know how the shotgun range works. I'd like to shoot some clays there. I know I have to bring my own launcher. Questions: Is there such thing as a cheap launcher that I can throw clays to myself? Is it a p.i.t.a to mount to the table? Is one of those NEF/Pardner pumps I see at dicks on sale suitable for such an endeavor? I dont have any intentions of hunting anything ever so this would just be for clays. Do you have to clean up after your clays when you are done? Is the shotgun range ever 'crowded'? Thanks for any input.

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/28346-bersa-thunder-22-review/ Heres a review of the Bersa 22, complete with pics. You should consider it as well. Chicks dig it.

Which one of our forum sponsors is going to have this in stock? .40 plz.