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Yeah, I don't get it. What's "fair" about it? It is unnecessary and not called for in any of the many onerous firearms ownership laws and regulations we already have to put up with in this state. Their time would be better spent expediting the existing process we have for FID/P2P, instead of wasting their time on fishing expeditions to people's homes, asking for two "neighborhood references" in addition to the two you have to provide with original application, and their insisting on mailing out a form letter to your employer, telling them that you have applied to purchase and own firearms. Enough's enough, man.

Welcome, boys! If you guys will look around--especially at some of the stickies regarding ACTUAL N.J. firearms laws, you'll have a frame of reference for how you're really supposed to handle the FID/P2P process. Sincerely, Scott ("the letter-writer") from Evergreen Street Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

There apparently IS no normal for the way the Bayonne PD handles their investigations re: firearms applicants.

Therein lies the problem: the Meninos, Nutters, Bidens, Lautenbergs, Bloombergs and Menendez's of our world will continue to be elected simply because of demographics. The number of Dems, Libs and assorted "progressives" simply outnumber Indies and GOP'ers. I don't see MA, NJ and NY coming back into the red column anytime soon, and PA is a longshot, too. All we can continue to do is galvanize the firearms community so that we get as many of us, our families and friends to register and vote against these bums. At the very least it shows that we have SOME strength in numbers, and the courage of our convictions.

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So, Nutter posits that the overwhelming majority of Philadelphia homicide victims are black males who are in most cases killed by other black males using illegal firearms. This, of course, has the good mayor calling for more restrictive gun controls so Philadelphians can enjoy the much lower gun crime rates that their "...neighbors across the river" (in NJ) do. You know, like in Camden, Trenton, Newark, Irvington, Jersey City, etc. Just another duplicitous idealogue bending the truth to suit his anti-2A agenda, although I'll grudgingly give him credit for stating the facts on what demographic is causing the violence in Philly. But if that were a white mayor spouting those stats...well, there'd be a media maelstrom. Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

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"Heinrich Himmler" by Longerich. Absolutely riveting study of the leader of the SS and architect of the Holocaust. An instructive read, too, as one realizes he was a monster shaped by the political climate of the day, along with his sociopathic tendencies. It is not a stretch to believe that there might be a budding Himmler or two currently occupying some mid-level bureaucratic office in D.C. Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

They're starting to kill 'em on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dssatlanta?ref=ts&fref=ts

What's a "paperboy"???? Until we canceled the News and the Star-Ledger, our delivery person was a middle-aged African guy from Newark who drove a hoop-ty blaring Afro-Caribbean music at 5am. While we're at it, what are these "milk men" I hear tell of from the past? LOL

What gets me is the complete lack of journalistic integrity from these writers AND their editors. If anyone were to write a pro-2A article, you're damned tootin' (said in my best Foghorn Leghorn voice) that the paper's "fact-checkers" would be all over it in preparation to rebut it. This fits right in with the leftist agenda among the Fourth Estate in this country. They are certainly subscribing to Rahm Emanuel's "Never let a serious crisis go to waste". That the "crisis" was the Newtown tragedy just makes the reaction of the liberal press and their adherents even more reprehensible. That's the last link I'm posting that has an anti-gun theme. It really doesn't do anything but aggravate my fellow shooting enthusiasts; besides, this stuff is virtually everywhere in the MSM. No need to drag it onto this site.

Got ya, Joe. NP.

Again, that is a HIGH school, not a grammar school. And I'm sure the students attending there, or Barringer, or any other inner-city school, have seen far worse out on the streets. But not a bunch of young kids in Marlboro, or Bayonne for that matter. Should have clarified that point right from the get-go.

I no longer subscribe to the JJ, because I was sick of the uber-liberal nonsense being spouted by their columnists, and because they are part of the Star-Ledger family. I saw this in the doctor's office today and was suitably amazed by the lack of fact-checking and the irresponsible, sensationalistic journalism that is so typical of Morgan: http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index.ssf/2013/01/nras_nonsense_is_so_far_holste.html BTW, this is the same guy who blames everyone but the criminal element among his own people for the incredible amount of violent crime in Jersey CIty. He chooses instead to knock the JCPD, the white establishment and, because it is expedient, the NRA and all law-abiding gun owners. Ass clown.

My OP was based on the fact that I've got a soon to be 8 year old niece in grammar school. She, and I'm sure the overwhelming majority of kids in her school are aware of what happened in Newtown. I think that far from having a calming or confidence-building effect on a kid, that having a uniformed officer walking the halls would actually increase the kids' anxiety level. I'm from a different generation than most of you on here. As H. M. Murdock wrote, the only time we would have seen a cop in school was some sort of medical emergency. The first time I saw LEO's in any school I went to was high school, and then it was the two guys running the Juvie Squad. THEM I got to know pretty well the first couple of years, and they turned out to be good guys. The point is, having a uniformed and armed presence would have seemed downright distracting when I was in school, but maybe--as most of you are pointing out--it's just the way of the world today. BTW, my niece's school HAD a D.A.R.E. officer, but he was arrested on a drug-related charge and removed. Shortly thereafter, the feds cut the budget for one, so they've been LEO-free for the most part, unless the local PD gives safety lectures, etc. Anyway, I don't think it is at all a bad idea for children to become familiar with and trust cops. But having the kids KNOW why the cops are there is what I think could lead to some of them getting uncomfortable. Not because they don't know that the officer is there to help them, but because they'd be on edge quite a bit thinking something "bad" is imminent. I don't know...maybe I'm way off on this thing, or maybe I'm not explaining myself appropriately, but I still don't think it's a great solution. Maybe having the LEO's in plain clothes, kind of under the radar in a lot of respects would be a better "fit" all around?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/02/Democrat-Mayor-Puts-Armed-Police-In-NJ-Schools Aside from it being a knee-jerk reaction to Newtown, one that will ultimately cause the already sky-high taxes in that township go even higher, I think it is psychologically-damaging for kids in grammar school to have to have a uniformed, armed presence in their midst day-in, day-out. One unintended consequence is that it will prepare this kids from a very early age to accept as the norm having a government-supplied authority figure in their every day lives. Please don't take this as a knock against LEO"s, because it's not. It's more a condemnation of the overreaction by this idiotic mayor (who vehemently claims to be anti-NRA, yet adopts the very policy WLP touted on tv a couple of weeks ago), and the indoctrination of this kids to accept a "police state" as an every day thing. Hey, when I was a young kid in grammar school, we had a Hudson County cop, Mike, who acted as a crossing guard for us at lunch time. I loved the guy and spent many a lunch period talking to him, but I think it would have been kind of weird to see him all day IN our school.

Hope the anti's don't see that vid or they'll want to ban levers next. That guy is simply awesome. Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2

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