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That’s odd.... so Trenton feels local barracks aren’t “capable/trusted” to type them up...but townies are? Just a rhetorical question

You mentioned the delay in you case was “permits typed in Trenton” unless something drastically changed...the issuing agency typed them out when I lived there ....I was present most times as they typed them in front of me. 8-9 months is criminal

I read the article including the charges, I did not say/suggest he was a middle aged, milk toast, software engineer, minivan driving soccer dad. Just that simply, instantly condemning him based on appearance and “charges” listed by an anti gun rag in an anti gun state might be wrong. And that there may be other possibilities, and that he may have been mischarged/overcharged in regards to the possession, that town is small and not urban and stuff like that is not a normal event. They’re mainly domestic/dui/speed trap/heroin& related crimes town, so having had personal experience professionally with the chief and a few Sgts and Lts it’s not inconceivable to me that there may be some incorrect charges. I have no dog in the fight and could care less really, other than amazed at the automatic reaction by most on here. Original report listing count of spent casings and rounds left in mag made it seem like it was a 15/30 mag, which is what I originally commented about. But everyone kept talking about his looks and discharging at fleeing persons/vehicle. I was not, now the article no longer lists the counts so they must have edited it to match the “assault clipozine” charge.... or they tested and VERIFIED/confirmed it was a 30 with 15 rounds in it, not a 15/30 that he owned prior to the reduction that he may not have know about. I know even if that was the case it’s no excuse to break the law, or justifies leniency based on the additional bad decisions.

Or could it be possible they are calling running outside sending rounds errantly at a car driving down the road “unlawful possession”?.......much like possession of a legally purchased/owned handgun outside exempted locations would result in the same charge?

And all his amenities for the 3-6 months he serves, cable tv, food, supplies etc

Correct, if he’s a scumbag and all the charges are valid he will be out in 6 months or less, if it’s clown po-dunk police incorrectly charging(aside from the discharging outside/at a fleeing vehicle/persons)he will do 5 yrs min lol

Lol ...wow... not going to even bother to respond to that. lol

I never mentioned race ......I was referring to full sleeves, beards, etc .... ones that don’t look like upstanding citizens. I never said he was an upstanding guy or in the right for his actions...... simply HE MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE NEW MAG LAW.....not that he should be let of on anything that he is guilty of. And if you spend enough time in gun shops in some areas outside of nj where you don’t have all the fpid/permit bs that discourages a lot of people from even bothering .....you will see people that look like him or worse, that based solely on appearance I’ve thought to myself there’s no way that person isn’t prohibited, yet they fill out the 4473 pass and walk out the door with their new purchase.

Where in that article did it say he did t lawfully own the rifle?.....it’s funny how judgemental you guys are and bury someone from an article and a picture....shooting at fleeing vehicle ...absolute stupidity! But from a picture he’s a gangbanger/illegal weapon possession/cartel drug dealer.....lol I work with guys that look “scary” but hold ts/sci clearances, cant always judge books by the covers...

I understand and stated that previously......simply pointing out theres one that probably had no clue about the mag reduction.

It could have been a buglary, home invasion, etc but in the article was listed as “dispute” clearly looks like he was roughed up. Now even IF any of that were the case in NJ we all know he was wrong in his actions. However the point is he may be a victim of the Murphy mag law through their quietly (to the majority of non forum/gun club etc gun owners) passing the law.

While that may very well be true, how can everyone be so blinded by hate for his appearance that they are missing the real point I was making. This guy could very well have legally bought a rifle with A 15/30 mag included which was legal at the time, very popular and the majority here owned them prior...why? because it “looks cool” or “the rifle doesn’t “look right” with a 15 round (10 now) length magazine. I’m sure there are plenty on this forum that have modified or purchased 10/30 magazines now. Then because he doesn’t spend 6 hours a day on a forum going back and forth with gun owning liberals about politics or which is the best military clone rifle to buy/build, he didn’t know about the bs legislation and got caught in the Murphy mag law. How many gun owners in nj?....how many members on this forum?……how many gun owners are sitting unknowingly on felony possession charges they will find out the hard way about? How many of those “perfect all American, minivan driving, soccer dads” who aren’t on forums etc. that are busy with their real lives, work, families, kids, etc, go to the nj.gov site, or read through 2C looking for new additionseveryday? I’d be willing to wager not a lot to none. And perhaps they previously lived in a state where it was legal to defend yourself, or your family outside the home, including protecting property, so they use that firearm with a 15 round mag outside of NJ’s bs “criminals are the victims, and the victim is the criminal” laws, and end up with the same magazine charge. Will everoyone on here label him a criminal too?

The point I was making was ....As said multiple times on this board, that probability was high of an average nj gun owner that bought a compliant firearm/magazine prior to this bs law going into effect, only shoots occasionally and isn’t an avid forum/gun club/friends with those that stay on top of the political bs getting popped for a magazine they bought legally last month and are now a felon was high. While this guy is not the posterboy for average joe gun owner, has way more issues than just the mag, but it is quite possible that despite his looks he could be an actual fpid holding legal gun owner that had no idea of the change, and just made some really bad decisions in the heat of the moment that will change his life for ever. Or he’s a thug pos that deserves everything he’s about to get...lol

I never said he was an upstanding law-abiding citizen I don’t know the guy all I did was to read the linked article and did the math 12 fired three in a magazine equals 15 why would someone only put 15 rounds into a 30 round magazine and why 15 and not 13 or 17 just saying. Up until last month how many of you had 15/30 mags?...while some may have had a visible pop rivet/epoxy .... I’ve seen some that were very inconspicuously done. And is it unreasonable to think that not EVERY officer is a gun guy and doesn’t see a 30 round mag body and just call it a 30 incorrectly? As an example I went to all 3 days of the joke of the “gun buyback” in Baltimore to claim my chunk of bloomturds money and can confirm the self announced “armorer” handling/clearing/catagorizing the turn ins to the person writing the vouchers was clearly not a “gun gun”

The courier post link said 12 rounds fired 3 remained in magazine, but call it a 30 rnd magazine clip charge.... to me it adds up to a last month legally modified 15/30 that is being whooped up into a 30 round possession charge because the dopey Barney fife pd sees a 30 round mag body and didn’t actually verify capacity before taking evidence pics and charging lol .... I get the guys an idiot and there’s a ton wrong with the whole situation but it’s probably safe to say they guys not one of the 17,000 post count posters on here and might have been unaware of the law change like the majority of nj gun owners may be that are not involved with forums/gun groups etc (njgf membership number vrs total nj gun owner number)

I have done transfers as both the buyer and seller at dealers in a number of states including NJ and it’s always been as remixer described..... the seller hands dealer the firearm, license, Fpid, other applicable docs, firearm is entered into their bound book, seller gets a paper/receipt whatever the proper term is, showing transfer from them to dealer..... if the money was paid they can leave or wait.....the buyer provides his docs to Ffl nics is performed, fees paid to dealer buyer gets paperwork showing transfer from ffl to them

His full 8 step plan, seems as though they have 7 checked off and going all in in on #4 the only one not complete .......yet

The percentage of John Q Public being a target of opportunity, or targeted for any of the multitudes of reasons criminals choose their victims is far higher than the mythical Super crackhead that hunts down the officer that arrested them. Not saying it hasn’t happened or doesn’t happen but definitely not to the degree it’s presented. Perhaps the guys on the job here can chime in on how may times in their careers they’ve had to use their weapons off duty to fend off an attack from a prior arrest/specifically targeted as a result of work and not a random act? Going a step further...since they jump to make exemptions because they feel bad guys thinking leos have or may have a weapon all the time keeps them safe, why don’t they apply their same “if it just saves one life” to EVERYONE’S right to protection?

In free states I get the + mags but to me it Seems kinda worthless for the average guy (non Leo etc) to have 21 round mag bodies with the NJ 10 round restriction.....

All while rocking his extremely professional/credibility undermining soul patch and baldy mullet

I travel a lot with work and stop in every shop I pass, time allowing, and have seen in more than one shop with a range in different parts of the country the employee removing and checking clear by struggling to rack the slides of every pistol in the bag of the person there to shoot and running magnets over EVERY box of ammo carried in.

Here’s a deal for $129.98 per 1k after mail in rebate and free shipping! Doesn’t show NJ on their no ship list.... but the rebate ends 12/2 ..... https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/blazer-brass-black-pack-9mm-luger-115-grain-centerfire-pistol-ammunition#repChildCatid=5737007

Let’s say your example of seperated components is glock magazine parts .... both friends own glocks and other “compliant” factory 10 round mags (able to be dissembled) the one holding the follower would be in possession of the component able to build an evil magazine of world ending mayhem with the other parts in the factory 10, thereby technically constructive possession?

Congratulations!!

On the occasion they actually do decline to proceed they don’t call anyone, I know the employee you mentioned well, and you are correct on location. Definitely push back... I’ve seen them deeply discount the firearm as well as free ammo gift cards. Most times the person that speaks to the customer is not the firearm manager just the manager on duty, could be footwear or clothing manager going off what the guys at the counter tell him. I’ve seen them deny a woman buying her first ar because she didn’t handle it like a Marine. She ended up getting 25% off and a couple hundred rounds and case free..... but she really rattled cages.