Indianajonze

if you had no intention of antagonizing anyone, why come here seeking advice you have no intention of following?

this hearing (and this law) is ridiculous. let me understand. the state gets in front of a judge to argue that an item (15rd mag), which has been legal for 100 years in the state of NJ, and is still legal to own until at least november, is, overnight, a "dangerous and unusual weapon"? a magazine. a magazine is no more a weapon in and of itself than a cellphone or a brick. any judge with any sense at all would have granted the injunction then and there

this is no sale. it's this price everyday at every walmart i've been to in northern nj

surprised no one's mentioned this little gem. here's the money shot: The plan would raise the cost for handgun purchase permits from $2 to $50; firearms identification cards from $5 to $100; handgun carry permits from $50 to $400; retail gun dealer licenses from $50 to $500; and wholesaler/manufacturer licenses from $150 to $1,500, among other hikes. https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/06/murphy_wants_to_make_it_more_expensive_to_buy.html the laughable one to me is the handgun carry permit. may as well make it $10,000 while you're at it. do you know what i want to see? a federal law mandating that legislators who sponsor and executives who sign into law bills which are deemed to be unconstitutional must be held accountable financially for their transgressions. these ppl know this stuff won't stand legal challenge, but they don't care because it's the taxpayer who foots the bill, not them. it's how you get wave after wave of ludicrous nonsense in these states.

nevermind

marking this thread to revisit in the future. good info here

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/28/pennsylvania-church-ceremony-guns/383815002/

you do not understand that if the supreme court declines to hear the case, the circuit court decision is the law of the land for that area. and the 3rd circuit is going to get very favorable shortly... in short, forget about the supreme court. if they take it, great. if not, well that will turn out just fine too. watch this space

ah but the supreme court not taking a 2A case won't matter for us very soon. i've been saying for a while now, the 3rd circuit is going to liberate new jersey. porter should be confirmed by the end of june, matey by august, which, along with the bibas appointment, will flip the 3rd circuit to a conservative majority... https://www.rollcall.com/news/hawkings/blue-slip-judicial-nominees-custom

that's what injunctions are for. take all the time you want courts. in the meantime, the law is on hold

i'd strongly suggest everyone thinking of selling their mags or butchering them to not do so. this bill is as unconstitutional as they come and will be tossed by any court in the country, including liberal ones. i haven't said much because i actually doubted it would pass. clearly our esteemed legislature are not versed on the constitution. ex post facto laws are specifically prohibited, by name, under article 1 section 10 of our trusty document. ex post facto laws are those which make illegal an act which was legal when committed. if you bought 15 round mags legally, they cannot suddenly become illegal. period. done. end of story. (as an aside, bump stock bans will fall as well). not only is murphy a moron, but he's a greedy moron as well. had he allowed simple grandfathering (like the other states have), it would have been harder to challenge. not impossible mind you, just harder. as it stands, this jackass is going to make the taxpayers pay for something that has no chance of standing. if you have 15rd mags in nj, you'll keep 15 rd mags in nj. take it to the bank. the california ban was supposed to have been in effect as of jan 1. the judge in the most liberal court in the country had to stop it for the same reason the real question for me is where did this attorney general get his law degree? he should be disbarred for giving consent to murphy to sign the bill

their youtube channel is pure gold. good enough for me to support them through coffee

you can't pair pancakes with eggs and bacon? this is news to the vast majority of americans

ah, good. a nice article to send to the list of state legislators i've been utterly bombarding since last thursday

eh, no