AlDente67

HD and general fun. I'm not doing any clay shooting or anything serious. The Moss is probably enough to have around, I just have that disease where the badass scary-looking Hatsan is there in the rack calling my name. I'm like my wife in a shoe store. There is a semi-auto available too, but at $825, a bit too much right now for my budget. Damn, I want that one though.

Good question. I can get a Remi 870, have a Moss 500 already, and Benelli is too rich for my blood. The Remi is pretty basic, at this price range. No sights, no rails. I'm talking about local stock in hand, btw.

12ga pump, listed at $420. I think 6 round capacity. Decent fixed sights. I've never heard of this brand (Turkish). The model is listed as LS1, but I can't find much info online about it.

If you want to buy used, I have an almost brandy new one you can have. I think it has about 10 rounds shot through it. I was thinking of picking up some others that caught my eye today. It is the 500 mariner that comes with the water-tight orange storage tube. PM me if interested. Price? I'm not sure. My LGS is not interested in carrying used shotguns.

Thanks for the feedback. We were looking to self-fund the project, but several million would break the bank. We had pegged a bit lower. One can dream though. In the meantime I'll have to drive to Lakewood.

Two of my cousins are cops - one with State Troopers and the other with Port Authority. The statey urged me several times to apply, but the money for the first few years would have been an issue. Moot point now that I'm past the max age, but at that time, I already had mortgage and other obligations that would not be supported by the starting salary. The schedule is not a big deal, as I've been working for weeks at a time overseas anyway, so wife was used to it. Had I gone through with it 10 years ago, I'd be doing ok now, salary-wise, and closer to retirement. But that was then.

Not sure if this is the right place for this topic, but here goes... Friend of mine, who is a FFL, and I are interested in setting up shop in Mercer County. He would run the store and manage inventory. The range would be set up as a smaller venue - 6-8 booths, depending on the layout. The retail would be guns and ammo only...no archery, clothing, etc. Although we have a couple of options in the area, they are both members only. I would like to have a range option in Mercer to serve as a more local walk-in facility (we have a building in mind already). The barrier is a fairly significant startup cost. My concerns are these: In these times of nutty ammo costs, would the casual shooter still spend the cash to go through some rounds? If there are no membership fees to support the overhead, this might be a problem. But my only option right now as a non-member of any club is to drive 45 minutes away (at best) to a range where I can rent a booth for an hour, buy a box of cartidges, plink a bit, and go home. Last time I shot in lakewood, the lanes were 2/3rds empty on a weekend. So I'm thinking there are others out there skipping the range in order to sit on the ammo supply (as am I to some degree). This is why I hesitate to join any private club...if I rarely plan to use up my supply, I can't justify the memership fee. (like paying on contract with my gym and then never actually going) What are your thoughts on this concept?

I'll take one from the guys who take 5 and want to move one of those. Just PM me when you are ready.

We could form a reference network here. You promise to send the forms back in a day or two, and everyone reciprocates. The Reference Club. Without Molly Ringwald or Judd Nelson. Who is with me?

Got into a long debate with an aquantance who emigrated from the UK to Australia. He likes to parrot the statistics he dredged up from somewhere...130 (more or less) gun-related deaths in the UK last year versus 12,000 in the US. I corrected him on the US figure, but on paper, the difference is still quite significant. So in his mind, no guns = no deaths (except for those really unlucky 130 people, I suppose). He doesn't factor in any other casualties from knives, clubs, fists, car accidents, and on and on. In his worldview, all criminals would turn in their guns if a law was passed. All Americans are walking around shooting up the neighborhood. If guns were outlawed, as in his country (either one), nobody would ever get killed or maimed or robbed, as utopia would settle in. Nobody needs to hunt for food, as all food is readily available at the store. Sport should be golfing. And don't try to mention drug crime, as it is a red herring in his view. Forget about gang banging in Camden. All gun-related deaths are a result of the soccer moms shooting out over parking spaces at the mall. So those 8,000+ yearly deaths in a nation of over 300 million people MUST be stopped. I should mention that he is also a staunch proponent of carbon taxation to stop the oceans from rising. But since Australia is one of the few places to actually slip that concept into reality, he is the only one in the debate who has to fork over part of his salary to the gov't. Delicious irony.

Sold out

Excellent point. Every one of these shows has the same affliction...Bar rescue, restaurant Impossible, and on and on. I like to see the end result, but the drama is just stressful. The contractors/builders/etc have to get paid a good sum to put up with the same crisis schedule on every project.

I got 17 rounders, but lost them in yet another tragic boating accident.

When is that held? I have a pair of old busted revolvers I want to get rid of. Appraised value = 0

When I got engaged 20 years ago, I paid around 2k for a 1 carat diamond. DeBeers had their long running ad that 2 months salary was the standard for the practice. Lately they switched to 3 months. I can't imagine spending that kind of money on a common element. DeBeers is a genious at marketing.

If you watch certain cable channels, you'll see the metals trading commercials every 5 minutes. They shifted their pitch from Gold to Silver lately, but the one claim they use is amusing - "90 percent of all Silver that has been mined has been used up!" Used up?

I used to work as a stockbrocker back in the day for a major brokerage (think bull). One of the products we carried was metals on paper.. some customers would demand to take physical possession after getting eaten up with annual fees. So what happened? They got nailed in fees to drive to Delaware to pick up the metal. So paper metal is suspect. Therefore physical metal...the problem is that you can't be sure of the quality without a professional assay test. If I tell you my coin is 99.99 pure gold or silver, so what? I have no proof. At this point, and gold bars are suspect of being part tungsten, which is roughly the same weight but almost worthless. It is said that fakers don't bother with coins (yet) because the potential ripoff is not that lucrative, but something to be aware of. I haven't heard yet of any shenanigans with silver. The issues that I see with physical metal are these two: -Try selling a gold coin, silver coin, bar, diamond, or similar. You'll get raped on the offer by most dealers. They don't make any profit if they give you spot price. Diamonds are the worst in this regard. -Metal values are not much different than dollars...it is whatever value someone is willing to pay or trade for. Ammo has a value that goes beyond the cash equivalent because it can be used for a purpose. In an emergency situation, you can find food (game) with ammo, or fight off the zombies, or intimidate your neighbors for a loaf of bread, or fight off your neigbors who want your loaf of bread, and so on. Silver coins aren't very valuable unless the next guy has in his mind that they are worth something. If not, you can try to sling them at rabbits for your dinner.

Very true, but if someone needed 357 and couldn't find it locally, and I wander into the LGS and they happen to have a box or two, I don't have any use for that round, but I can certainly pick up boxes up to the limit. Some is better than none. Logistics might be an issue, but even forum members living in the same town could happen across something by chance at 9am whereas the other member shows up at 7pm and it is all gone (same store). I'll call it a live alternative to gunbot, but at better prices (hopefully) I know it requires some trust on the part of the members, so maybe restricted only to forum contributors or some such, and then a repository for what you need and what is your max price. If I see something that fits your criteria, I can pick it up and vice versa. Just a thought since many of us are within driving distance and have different schedules.

Does anyone think it would be a good idea to form a buyer club here where we could list out the ammo we want, and then whenever someone stumbles in at the right time to the store and spots some product...snag it up for the other guy. Then meet up at some point later to exchange the product for the cash? Do you think this is workable? For example, if Dicks in Woodbridge has 2lr, I would love a brick or two, but I can't get up to Woodbridge at the drop of a hat. If I were to try after work, I might find myself driving an hour for nothing if they sold out already. Not sure if the concept is too much hassle - eventual meetup or mail, but I'm just thinking aloud.

I noticed they are putting the knobs back on the front now, is that right? Mine came with the knobs located on the right-side tray, which reduces the space to keep a serving plate on that side. The reason I read is that the front-mount knobs had a melt-down issue. I guess they solved that issue?

As of last night, they had a good stock of regular 115gr 9mm on the shelf. 1 box per customer. $19.36 after tax for box of 50 They haven't had 9mm in 3 months except for the really expensive match-grade.

I will buy whatever you want to sell.

Sort of like demanding my phone number to buy a bag of doggie treats at PetSmart. Here, take my $5 and let me get on my way. Don't worry about my phone number. Normally I'd just answer the question about the plastic case and move on, but more and more I'm balancing the idea of not being rude to a clerk who is following orders versus a slow drip to what next level of rules may come about. Sort of the frog in the pot of water slowly heating up effect.

I love watching Piers get raped by Ted Nugent and others. But on the flipside, he is a judge on Celebrity Apprentice this season, and he has been after his old nemesis Omorosa. She was fired, so his entertainment value goes away, but it was also fun to watch them agitate each other.

So I was reading this article today: http://www.americant..._thwart_it.html And I was wondering what the difference was between what we as NJ buyers already go through versus what other state residents go through. Specifically, with all the paperwork we must fill out and sign at the point of sale, are we not all registered already in some database? If not, where does all that paperwork go? I'm just wondering if the Fed registration proposal applies more to other states that do not currently have the process that NJ has. Can you actually walk into a gun show in Nevada (for example) and walk out with a pistol with no paperwork? I had thought that since my FID, address, phone, gun serial model and type, and everything else we have to fill out and get checked on means we were already in a database somewhere, as to what exactly I have in my house. Or is the fact that they are still issueing FID cards on an IBM Selectic typwriter indicative that all that paper gets dumped into a filing cabinet somewhere? Just curious.