Mr.Stu

In my experience this comes out pretty much as a wash. What you save on sales tax is eaten up in shipping and transfer charges. Unless it's a rare, hard to get item I prefer to buy from a dealer in State. We need or dealers to stay in business. My go to is Jim Flynn in Glen Gardner - but that may be because I can walk from my house to his shop.

I did it the first time around. They are decent bino's. All we need now is the same deal on a decent spotting scope.

You appear to be missing my point. The one bill was defeated, but the anti-gun lobby still walked away with 3 victories. I'm not a naysayer for being able to see this. Imagine a bill that increases taxes to from 25% to 90%. It is not a victory if it is changed to 50%. You are still paying more taxes.

I can see why people are celebrating the tabling of one bill. However, I think they are victims of the usual gun grabbers play/ploy. They propose something really bad and when they give up on it, even for a while, we declare victory even though the other less bad, but bad nonetheless, bills pass. There were 3 other bills that were passed. This wasn't a victory, just a less bad defeat - for now. The bill was tabled, not voted down.

... And that it was a really nice day, weather wise

I didn't feel harassed. You're not very good at that. Lol

@Malice4you were you the guy on the far right table that I was pelting with brass? I'm the English guy who was on the second table in from the right?

An added bonus for being certified in one of the shooting disciplines is you can just take the test and become an RSO without sitting the class. The same goes for instructor for metallic cartridge reloading and shotgun shell reloading.

I don't know how much you've looked into it but there are two parts to becoming an NRA certified instructor. The first is required no matter which discipline you want to teach. It's called Basic Instructor Training (BIT). The purpose of this is to teach methods of instruction; i.e. how to teach. After that you take the discipline specific class; e.g. basic pistol, basic rifle, basic shotgun, etc. Your BIT class counts for all disciplines so you only have to do it once. This means that if you want to certify in pistol and rifle you would start with BIT, then do the two specific classes after that. As an incentive, becoming a certified instructor opens a little bit of NJ's draconian laws up. Without it you can only legally do a temporary transfer (hand you student a gun) at a range that has sent it's membership list to NJSP on an annual basis. As a certified instructor you are allowed to do a temporary transfer anywhere that is suitable for the training being offered. That could be a private range, or around your dining room table while you go over the mechanics of a firearm or how to clean and maintain one. This is the main reason I got my NRA Instructor cert. SCFGPA didn't used to submit the membership list - I think that changed a couple of years ago following a members' vote.

Lipstick on a pig in my opinion.

You did already have that right. A superior court ignored it and got corrected by NJ Supreme Court. Nothing has changed except a Superior Court will have to put some effort into denying your rights. That's unless they choose to ignore this ruling like they do the Constitution. You'll notice there was no disciplinary action taken so there's no incentive for any Court to change their ways.

Yep. Until SCOTUS overturns Drake that's precedential for all us so the denials will continue.

Getting a carry permit is a two step process. You apply to your local PD who will either approve or deny (or NJSP if your town doesn't have a PD). If they deny you can appeal to your county Superior Court. If the police approve, you still have to get through the second step which is approval from your county Superior Court. They wheel in somebody from the prosecutor's office and basically put you on trial. Then they deny your application. The only thing that changed with this ruling is that they must hold a hearing for step 2 before they issue the denial.

If you resist the confiscation and it gets physical they then turn around and say "See, he is violent! We did the right thing."

Sorry, but this is not correct. You do not have to apply for an FPIC ever and you can still buy handguns. The number on your FPIC and the PtPP forms is your SBI number - a unique identifier that is used for your record at the State Bureau of Identification. It appears on both documents but originates at the SBI. Anyone who has a background check for other reasons also has an SBI number (think school teachers, Scout leaders, etc.) It is common for FFLs to ask for your FPIC when you use a PtPP, but it is not required by law. All the information they need is on the PtPP.

Possession of an FPIC or lack thereof gives you no legal exemption with regard to handguns.

I didn't think of that - I run a DPP which has only 1 button and that's placed where it won't get hit by accident.

I'm curious about the utility of the charging handle with the RDS installed. Why not grab the nice, big, clearly sticking out RDS rather than try to get behind it to grab a smaller handle?

@DevsAdvocate Not at all. I have got a new FPID for a change of address, 2 sets of permits and an OGAM exemption since. I also renewed my NH and UT carry permits with no issues.

Unless out until SCOTUS get off their collective butts and rule on Rogers, Cheeseman, Ciolek or Gould it would just be a waste of your time and money. JN is the law of the State and that's not going to change without a ruling from SCOTUS. If you want to spend money on another background check, range time and ammo for qualification, a day's pay for showing up in court to hear your denial go ahead. I've been there and done it fruitlessly.

Having been denied to my face I know they will have no problem denying everyone else. This smells kinda like "give him a fair trial, then hang him"

Press 0 to get an answer. NJSP have lost two sets of permits between Trenton and Washington. The first time it took me over a month to convince them that they had lost them. The second time it was only a couple of weeks. NJSP use what they call the "Pony Express" to move the permits from Trenton to your local barracks. This is code for "whatever trooper might be heading in roughly the right direction" I had to persuade the nice lady at Trenton to send replacement sets via USPS both times.

I have a torque wrench you could borrow but I'm over an hour away. It goes over 200ft.lb and has a 3/4" drive. Interested?

Where are you?

The ventilation is being completely replaced with an up to spec design. It is also including effective heating - up to 30 degrees over ambient iirc which is the reason for the uprated gas supply.