gunguy1960 2 Posted January 30, 2013 Recently saw online that a store called united nations ammo supply is offering these functional complete black powder bowling ball mortars. Can anyone tell me the nj law on such an item? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMSTICK 6 Posted January 30, 2013 Do you want to be a a quadruple amputee? Seriously doesnt sound like a good idea. More than likely a no no here in NJ as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted January 31, 2013 As long as it's considered a "antique cannon", I would think it should be legal in NJ - note that any cannon that does not fire fixed ammo is considered an "antique" under NJ law. 2C:39-1. Definitions. 2C:39-1. Definitions. The following definitions apply to this chapter and to chapter 58: a. "Antique firearm" means any rifle or shotgun and "antique cannon" means a destructive device defined in paragraph (3) of subsection c. of this section, if the rifle, shotgun or destructive device, as the case may be, is incapable of being fired or discharged, or which does not fire fixed ammunition, regardless of date of manufacture, or was manufactured before 1898 for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available, and is possessed as a curiosity or ornament or for its historical significance or value. As with everything else in NJ "antique cannons" are illegal to possess except by the following organizations/people: (2)Subsection a. of N.J.S.2C:39-3 and subsection d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 do not apply to an antique cannon that is capable of being fired but that is unloaded and immobile, provided that the antique cannon is possessed by (a) a scholastic institution, a museum, a municipality, a county or the State, or (b) a person who obtained a firearms purchaser identification card as specified in N.J.S.2C:58-3. Research the law on firing cannons before trying to do so, there are limitations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Candide 0 Posted January 31, 2013 Who woulda thunk that a simple bayonet lug or adjustable stock would be illegal in this state, yet a freaking cannon could be good to go! I hope its not an "assault cannon" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted January 31, 2013 Recently saw online that a store called united nations ammo supply is offering these functional complete black powder bowling ball mortars. Can anyone tell me the nj law on such an item? If you mean the ones that are made from old gas cylinders (by an amazing coincidence, the inside diameter of a standard gas cylinder is the same as the outside diameter of a bowling ball!) -- it would be difficult to argue that they are antiques, and anyway, it looks like it's waaaaaaaay too much fun to possibly be legal in New Jersey! (And where would you fire it? Don't you need to schedule an appointment to even shoot a Barrett .50 at Fort Dix?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted January 31, 2013 Thanks for everyones input, and the videos were great, if its loud and dangerous, whats not to like? Looks like purchase in nj is okay, anyone know where it can be fired? Perhaps if we form leagues and put pins at the other end of the field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted January 31, 2013 Who woulda thunk that a simple bayonet lug or adjustable stock would be illegal in this state, yet a freaking cannon could be good to go! I hope its not an "assault cannon" paint it blue.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qel Hoth 33 Posted January 31, 2013 If you mean the ones that are made from old gas cylinders (by an amazing coincidence, the inside diameter of a standard gas cylinder is the same as the outside diameter of a bowling ball!) -- it would be difficult to argue that they are antiques, How would it be difficult to argue they are antique cannons? 2C:39-1a "Antique firearm" means any rifle or shotgun and "antique cannon" means a destructive device defined in paragraph (3) of subsection c. of this section, if the rifle, shotgun or destructive device, as the case may be, is incapable of being fired or discharged, or which does not fire fixed ammunition, regardless of date of manufacture, or was manufactured before 1898 for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available, and is possessed as a curiosity or ornament or for its historical significance or value. 2C:39-6d 2 exempts possession of an antique cannon so long as you have a FID, among other things. 3 exempts transport to/from place of purchase and repair. 4 exempts loading and firing so long as it is at a range or has CLEO approval. 5 exempts transport to a range or an event that has CLEO approval. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted January 31, 2013 I've already been a member of a Gun Crew for a 5 Pounder! We fire it at Rendezvous every morning (the Morning Gun @ 8:00 am) using around a 1/4 pound of black powder wrapped in aluminum foil. Same Gun is fired at Colliers Mills WMA for their Open House (I'm a member of the group who provides the Living History Encampment for said event). See Garden State Black Powder Association web site, Facebook page, etc. Makes a nice BOOOOOOMM! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites