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I'll give you cost. The other two, not so much. All my 308's have been dead reliable. My go to 308 makes weight for what Im comfortable with. IIRC its 8.1lbs.

My AR pattern 308 is my go to! It encompasses such a wide spectrum of capability. My 308 can cover just about everything my 5.56 can do but the reverse is not true.

The KEY statement from the NZ PM is "owning these weapons is a privilege, not a right!"

Was your uncles name Peter Clemenza? You weren't supposed to look in the package!

All my hammer fired HK's are light LEM fwiw.

Lem is neither striker or DA/SA. Its take up to a wall and then break. If you choose not to push through the wall, the hammer lowers back down as you release pressure on the trigger without firing. The pull is always the same. There is no change from first to second shot.

Since home defence is a primary objective, the P30 Lem would be my suggestion. There are so many pluses to this configuration for that objective. One of which is giving your brain that last bit of runway to make a shoot/no shoot decision. Some will say its not as fast as a striker fired trigger, I say SO WHAT, and my timer refutes that position anyway. But the real world safety advantages of this system outweigh the insignificant performance differences, real or imagined.

Well, I think the right question is, what are you doing with it? It will guide the answer.

Well, to use motorsports, win on sunday, sell on monday right? But there is no doubt that mill adoption and or building for the top pros in shooting sports are what push the envelope in devvelopment right? So I actually am glad that there is a market segment that can afford to buy the best even if they dont need the best, otherwise dev would not be where it is. BTW I DONT recommend starting on a 250

Maks, a little less tangible but fits in your scenario are people that view things from an insurance policy perspective. Better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. For others there is pride of ownership. But think for a second how this can be a slippery slope that does NOT serve the consumer communities best interest. Think about how many manufacturers have eroded into building for the low round count consumer. They count on the avg consumer to shoot less than 500 rds a year and anyone that really uses the firearm as intended is probably sending it in for warranty work. HK is one of the very few companies that still test fires its weapons before shipping.

It simply depends on the cost of failure. If having to switch to irons at the range or go home early is the consequence, then most will be able to live with it. If the consequences are a blown match that cost you a couple grand to participate in, or a hunting trip to africa, then it may be prudent to buy better. If your life is on the line, then its self evident.

Mines black.

I have one for sale already done with extras...

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I would not recommend trying to sand the grips on the FN. Unless they have changed the polymer they use is softer than other pistols. What happens is it smears instead of sanding down and makes an ugly mess. Wear gloves.

Let me add a wrinkle. What does center mass mean? I would ABSOLUTELY defer to High Exposure's position on the topic as I am well aware of his background and cadre of trainers he has studied under. But I think a case could absolutely be made for a leg shot in the right circumstances. If the BG needs shooting and the leg is the only available, Im shooting for center mass of the target presented! As a side note I am convinced that a few of you cant brake set from your suppositions and intake what is being said in plain english.....

Pete, dont let your ego keep you from backing away from a bad position. Seriously. Some of you are just not tracking the language that is being presented to you. It has been put forth clearly and thoughtfully. Your not intaking it correctly.

Indeed hypothetical. But using the ccw case as a template, they gave it to the plaintiff to avoid appeal IIRC. And by abusing that authority to create that gambit, that is how it will remain denied in a general sense.

"Then you would appeal up to federal court." At which point they would drop the case to stay out of fed court.

Thats exactly what I think would happen.

Id rather just go get multi projo ammo if I was so inclined to chase that kind of endeavor.

Sorry for the mess. Packing!!! T1 and mount not included. I do not have the box or anything as it didnt come with it.

Sorry for the delay, will get pics up asap. Keep in mind that a $150 to $200 brake and $75 to $125 or(or $200 in the case of the SCAR) in compliance work add a bit to these rifles. So if you were thinking about any of these here is a chance to save some money

If memory serves NP3 would not be a suitable solution for an extractor. There are embrittlement issues with small parts. Function first. The extractor is heat treated to a hardness that works best. How it looks after use is not really part of the equation. This is a bit like being concerned your tank got a scratch on it. If you want an heirloom or gun art, look at something like a Cabot or Heirloom precision.

Ill take an HK over any other crunch and ticker out there.