H.M. Murdock

I pulled out because this thread was abandoned by the organizers so I naturally assumed the group buy was off I'd be happy to sign up again if it is still active (confused) I'm not allowed to shoot steel at my range anymore but I was planning on keeping a couple in the truck for upstate. And I want to build a big 10" or 12" gong for the occasional trip to CJ

I believe you I didn't want to step on the FFL's toes -- this FFL is extremely knowledgeable on the law among other things This is making me rethink my own magazine modifications, maybe I'm overdoing it.. I am normally of the mind that one should follow the law but not throw in any extra hurdles for myself lest lawmakers and law enforcement come to expect such extralegal hurdles as routine and realizable. On the other hand, mine are metal Com Bloc rifle magazines which seem to attract more attention than handgun magazines in this state

Interesting.. I trust that guy's judgement as he seems to err on the side of caution otherwise. <shrug> Personally my magazines are modified with much more fervor, dunno what else to say without stepping on toes

Can't an anti-2A person tweet offensive commends under the NJ2AS hash tag and it will be retweeted by everyone using this program?

I think I get it, you guys are upset because the employer is the church and this goes against Christian principles? Well I went to Catholic school so I know better than that!

I asked a question, I didn't make a statement Here's another question.. if the school kept her on despite the liability, who will pay the additional insurance premiums? Probably not the parents who removed their children from school out of concern for their safety Remember that this guy has already come to the school in anger! I don't understand why everyone is demonizing the school. The problem is the revolving door of the criminal justice system. The school can't possibly bear the brunt of that.

Alright, fair enough. Don't forget that there may be hundreds or thousands of their customers out here, unwittingly breaking the law by possessing magazines modifed by this company (magazines which are clearly not permanently modified).

How much of an employee's baggage must a private employer accomodate before they can get rid of the liability without being demonized? And how many times should the private employer take a substantial monetary loss on locking down the school everytime this guy violates a court order?

This a private employer

Sorry if someone already brought this up, I searched http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/06/13/1236219/bill-regulating-3d-printed-guns-announced-in-nyc -> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/105893-bill-regulating-3d-printed-guns-announced-in-nyc/ NEW YORK—A new bill to regulate 3D printed guns was introduced by Council Member Lewis Fidler (D-Brooklyn) on June 12. The bill would amend the New York administrative code to make it illegal to use a 3D printer to create any part of a firearm unless the person is a licensed gunsmith. A gunsmith using a 3D printer to print any part of a gun would be required to notify the NYPD and register it within 72 hours. Proposed revisions to the code include language ensuring 3D printed guns fall under the same regulations as other firearms. This includes clarification on systems to feed bullets, requirements for a serial number, and regulations against destroying weapons. Cody Wilson, creator of the first 3D printed guns, and founder of Defense Distributed, said in an email interview, “Such legislation is a deprivation of equal protection and works in clear ignorance of Title I and II of U.S. gun laws.” Wilson was referring to Title 1, the Gun Control Act of 1968, and Title 2, the National Firearms Act. Fidler’s representative, Brad Reid, said “Before any bill comes out it has to go through the generals council office of the City Council.” He also noted that since the bill made it past, it shows that it is in line with current laws. A second piece of legislation was also announced June 12 by State Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal (D-Manhattan), which would make it a felony for anyone to manufacture, sell, or use guns or ammunition magazines made with a 3D printer. Rosenthal’s legislation is still in the Codes Committee. Under federal law, it is legal for individuals to manufacture certain types of firearms as long as the guns are not resold, are not fully automatic, and comply with set limits such as on gun and barrel length. The kicker is that in order for a homemade gun to be legal, the person who builds his or her own gun needs to make at least 20 percent of the receiver, which houses the trigger mechanism and other operating parts of the firearm. The law is in place to prevent people from buying all the gun parts separately, and then putting them together. This is precisely the part of the law that 3D printed guns get around, since the receiver can be printed from a digital file. There are many types of homemade firearms, mainly referred to as “zip guns,” and “pipe guns.” A perusal of the Internet shows homemade firearms built into flashlights, pens, and even made with metal pipes duct-taped onto wooden boards. Ernie Encinas, founder of Coastline Protection and Investigations, a former homicide detective who served in the San Diego Police Department for 31 years, said homemade firearms used to be common, but most criminals these days just turn to the black market for their firearms. “I don’t think it’s going to be that big of a problem, people making their own guns,” he said. “Why would you use a cheap gun when you can get a regular one on a black market?” he said. He added that most of the criminals he has dealt with used guns that were stolen, then resold. “If a bad guy wants a gun he’s gonna get a gun.” Encinas added, however, that gun owners should have record checks and be required to register their weapons—whether purchased or homemade. He noted that registering a firearm will not make it immediately traceable if used in a crime. Ballistics investigators use two forms of information from a firearm to trace weapons used in crimes. The rings inside the barrel are unique to each gun, and the spot where a trigger hits leave unique markings on shell casings. Encinas said police only collect the information if a gun is used in a crime. “If the gun has never been used on anything, then nothing will show.” A representative from a local makerspace that uses 3D printing said it’s unlikely the legislation would affect anyone who uses 3D printers for their regular work. The 3D printers are often used for fabrication and design, in art and prototypes for products. The representative, who requested that he not be named, added that manufacturing a firearm with a 3D printer would be costly. “It’s not cheap,” he said. “It’s definitely expensive.” Replace their assemblyperson names' with ours, no one would know the difference. Is there something in the water around here that makes our politicians dumb but makes the bagels taste good?

If you don't mind me asking, who was the vendor that made those reversible modifications and presumably sold them in NJ as NJ compliant?

Before 12/14 the rifles (except the .308) were just under $400 unconverted and around $300 the few years prior $600 unconverted isn't too bad. After the panic ends I think the new price point will be $500 unconverted but who knows

I wouldn't be surprised that he still approached if he was overwhelmed by the red mist. All depends when each party was peaking in anger. Actor 1 could have waved gun and regained control afterwards, "what was I thinking?". Actor 2 could have lost control once they saw the gun waved at them, "not in my town!", and died while still under adrenalin surge.

Pretty much every fact is missing. Brief witness statements used to build the bulk of this news story. Give it a few weeks for more info, past that we're waiting for a trail to learn the facts.

Sounds like a perfect chance to play "Six Degrees of Charles Mainor"! Here are some more pieces to the story: "According to court documents, a witness told investigators that the confrontation started when Joseph Walker's minivan cut off Joseph Harvey's car. Harvey's passenger, Adam Pidel, told police that Walker pointed a gun at them as the vehicles swerved at each other." http://www.myfoxny.com/story/22543082/fatal-road-rage-shooting

Yes! Need these in .223/5.56, 5.45x39, .308 Win -- all 15 rounders. And 12 ga with 5 round capacity. Don't give a hoot about .410. I'll be waiting on the couch.

Either gunguy1960 is MedicYeti's boss or he is one of those automatic spam generators that creates grammatically correct paragraphs of nonsensical sentences

Mipafox in 3..2..1

Favourite is my scout rifle in .308 with iron sights Second fav is my Enfield No. 4 Third is my beat up M1 Garand

Sometimes when I'm on my way to this BBS I type in njfunforums.com instead of njgunforums.com. Then I have to burn myself with a cigarette so I learn not to make that mistake again. The internet is serious business and we don't have time for this shit.

This was true in past decades but I've noticed a sharp decline in quality reports 10-15 years ago. And truckers tend to point out positions that you would identify yourself with just a little SA prior to becoming a target. IMO trucker reports are most useful when a radio car is on the move (without a specific target), closing the gap from the opposite direction. In these situations the coppers tend to keep their radar gun on instead of POP'ing so if you're not speeding egregiously you will have sufficient notice from the detector to assimulate the prevailing speed. But if you're both travelling at a very high rate of speed toward one another the trucker's report can buy you enough time to shed significant speed and blend in. Personally I still run both 10m/CB and 2m rigs (for traffic nets and kicking tires of course, never to be used in the commission of a crime!) This post is intended for entertainment purposes only.

I think this is dead(?). I edited my previous post to remove my order

Hahaha Add a magician's hand sweep across the dashboard during the Radar detector bit of the speech to show the officer it is just an ordinary dash board, not a magic one!

The CMP stopped shipping rifles to NJ customer's doors and started requiring proof of FPID on file after someone (from NJGF? ) tipped off the state The lack of FPID is going to be the show stopper for the OP The proof of citizenship, age, club affiliation, marksmanship requirement and notarized application are trivial in comparison