KpdPipes 388 Posted August 4, 2012 Then four million+ duck hunters and clay target shooters must be wrong? One is a cheap but affordable everyman's shotgun and the other is an overpriced sexy European that is cheap to manufacture due to its design and through modern computer-manufacturing methods practically untouched by human hands. But it's lifeless and without a soul. However it is the sexy Italian to some who are smitten. Note: When Remington introduced the 870 to replace their venerable Model 31, it was referred to and scoffed at by purists as the "tin can" pump. Ten million copies later it's still in production. Albeit there have been some QC issues lately because nothing is made like it used to be. Then four million+ duck hunters and clay target shooters must be wrong? One is a cheap but affordable everyman's shotgun and the other is an overpriced sexy European that is cheap to manufacture due to its design and through modern computer-manufacturing methods practically untouched by human hands. But it's lifeless and without a soul. However it is the sexy Italian to some who are smitten. Note: When Remington introduced the 870 to replace their venerable Model 31, it was referred to and scoffed at by purists as the "tin can" pump. Ten million copies later it's still in production. Albeit there have been some QC issues lately because nothing is made like it used to be. What works for Ducks, and other game, doesnt necessarily make the best HD/Tactical Shotgun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted August 5, 2012 What works for Ducks, and other game, doesnt necessarily make the best HD/Tactical Shotgun. Of course, that's very true. But manually-operated shotguns like the M97, M12, M37 and 870, all good hunting arms and pretty good duck guns too; also served well in our armed services and in LE patrol cars across the U.S. for decades. And while I think the 1100/1187 is an okay semi-auto shotgun, it's not the bee's knees for everything. Guns with some longevity do bear recognition though. Despite introduction of other shotguns to take its place, the 1100 remains in Remington's lineup today because they have yet to have a runaway hit with anything else. The Navy tried the 1100 in the late 60's as a platform for a selective-fire shotgun. I don't think it made much of a splash. Benelli's were around in the 60's too. It took a while for them to establish themselves and for the rest of the world to adopt Bruno Civolani’s design. The rest of course is history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted August 5, 2012 any suggestions on this for a possible 3-gun shottie?? Mossberg 930 Jerry Miculek Semi-Automatic 12 Gauge Shotgun, 9-Shot MANUFACTURER NO: 79799 http://www.impactguns.com/mossberg-930-semi-automatic-12-gauge-shotgun-jerry-miculek-9-shot-3in-chamber-79799-015813851190.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
