Civil War Rifle and A3659: Bans .50 cal weapons

[jtd771 18]

Sorry if the answer to this is obvious.  My father has a Civil War era Enfield Rifle Musket that he intends to pass on to me.  Being that the weapon has a .577 cal would it become a banned weapon?  I've read over the proposed bill and from what I can see it looks like he will have to register it and after he passes it must be surrendered or destroyed in 90 days.  I couldn't tell (not a lawyer) if it will somehow be exempted because of its age or the fact that it doesn't utilize cartridge ammunition.  Anyone have any idea how it will affect not only this gun but all of those possessed by re-en-actors?  

[kman 56]

Good question-does anyone know if the 50 cal ban pending in the legislature applies to muzzleloaders too?

 

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[DLF 1]

Considering it was written in Trenton, this seems fairly clear.

 

Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (3) of this subsection, the term shall not include any of the following weapons capable of firing a projectile of a caliber of 50 or greater, but not exceeding a caliber of 60: antique firearm; antique handgun; muzzleloader rifle; or black powder muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or an under hammer which has been, or subsequently is, approved for hunting in this State. The term also shall not include any firearm with a bore diameter greater than 60 caliber whose principle means of ignition are traditional flintlock or caplock and whose principle propellant is black powder.

[msokad 3]

I believe the current version of this would bill would exclude you because this gun should be considered an antique firearm.

[maintenanceguy 510]

Considering it was written in Trenton, this seems fairly clear.

 

Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (3) of this subsection, the term shall not include any of the following weapons capable of firing a projectile of a caliber of 50 or greater, but not exceeding a caliber of 60: antique firearm; antique handgun; muzzleloader rifle; or black powder muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or an under hammer which has been, or subsequently is, approved for hunting in this State. The term also shall not include any firearm with a bore diameter greater than 60 caliber whose principle means of ignition are traditional flintlock or caplock and whose principle propellant is black powder.

It looks like each thing that is not banned is separated by a semi-colon.  If I'm reading ti right, both "muzzleloader rifles" are ok as are "muzzleloaders having in-line ignition, a center hammer, or an underhammer".  Why both muzzleloaders and muzzleloaders?  Am I reading it wrong?

 

The reason this matters is that I own a 50cal muzzleloader with a hammer on the side, not an inline, center hammer, or under hammer.  So am I covered just under the "muzzle loader"?

[Smokin .50 1,907]

Sorry if the answer to this is obvious.  My father has a Civil War era Enfield Rifle Musket that he intends to pass on to me.  Being that the weapon has a .577 cal would it become a banned weapon?  I've read over the proposed bill and from what I can see it looks like he will have to register it and after he passes it must be surrendered or destroyed in 90 days.  I couldn't tell (not a lawyer) if it will somehow be exempted because of its age or the fact that it doesn't utilize cartridge ammunition.  Anyone have any idea how it will affect not only this gun but all of those possessed by re-en-actors?  

Muzzy's aren't on the EVIL list.

 

Rent an apartment in PA.  Charge Dad rent.  Both of you live there.  He GIVES you the musket in PA.  It's YOURS and it's NOT a GUN.  NO paperwork!  Ain't 'Murica just great!

 

Seriously, you're worrying about nothing.....

[Templar 0]

Does that mean no brown bess muskets will be legal

[Smokin .50 1,907]

Does that mean no brown bess muskets will be legal

 

 

Since the Bess is a flint lock with a bore bigger than .60 caliber, it is EXEMPTED, which means you can still own and use it.

 

READ the law and you won't have to worry about reading comments from strangers........   Not trying to be a wise a$$, just trying to get everyone to read what's written and not put anything else into the equation.  ALL firearms are illegal in NJ.  They only exist through EXCEPTIONS and EXEMPTIONS...........

 

Dave

[Templar 0]

I will have to check the law out again. I have to admit I do get a little confused reading them at times

[Bob2222 317]

http://legiscan.com/NJ/text/A3659/2012

 

Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (3) of this subsection, the term shall not include any of the following weapons capable of firing a projectile of a caliber of 50 or greater, but not exceeding a caliber of 60: antique firearm; antique handgun; muzzleloader rifle; or black powder muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or an under hammer which has been, or subsequently is, approved for hunting in this State.  The term also shall not include any firearm with a bore diameter greater than 60 caliber whose principle means of ignition are traditional flintlock or caplock and whose principle propellant is black powder.

 

As I read it, it does allow Hawkeye's Brown Bess. (Unfortunately, because that might give Christie a good reason to veto it.)