mcbethr

If I had had a dog, I would name him "Gunner."

I would say that the prices here in NJ are a bit higher - mainly because you are dealing with limited buyers. Think about it. Only 14% of the adults in this entire state can buy a gun. The prices have to be higher. Also note that there are more used guns in places other than NJ because you have churn. It's perfectly common for someone in PA to pawn his gun to pay a few bills and just buy another one when he works a little overtime. That doesn't happen in NJ. Once you buy a pistol, you pretty much keep it forever because of the hassle of getting more permits. Used guns have a bigger profit margin in a store than new guns, so gun shops out of state can afford to take the financial hit on new guns.

If you search hard enough you will find a memo from the State Police about it. I'm sure it's on this board somewhere. Critical Defense is not considered a hollow point.

Did anybody else get an email from this new organization, C4SNJ or Citizens For a Safer New Jersey? Is this some kind of NJ2AS splinter group? I kind of think that the last thing we need right now is fiefdoms when we are all in the fight together.

NJ2AS has most definitely not disbanded. If anything they have grown stronger.

If you google "Number of gun owners by state" you should get about 14% for NJ. I believe the survey data is a few years old. This still works out to roughly 1.2 million gun owners, or more then all of the Armies of Europe.

I think the problem here is that we have to give up something to correct something visibly bad. Why we have to give up our magazines in return for something that the state should do anyway to correct a law that is fundamentally flawed?

I am not a lawyer. I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I think the law, for lack of a better term, worked. You didn't actually buy the handgun, you were stopped. So you didn't violate the law. Do it again in 5 days.

I'm with Jack on this one. Trigger locks are bad juju. You can load a gun and put a lock on the very thing that makes the gun go bang. Would you consider running a cable lock through the magazine well and out the ejection port, or using a small Secure-IT safe?

It's an AUssault rifle... ya get it?

There, I fixed it for you.

It would be nice but you have to remember that we are in the minority - only about 14% of NJ Jersey residents own guns. Why would a legislator stick his neck out for 14% of the people and risk being branded as "in the pocket" of the NRA? There was one person on another forum who said that if Shall Issue was granted in NJ there would be a stamped of new gun application. That just isn't true. Cows that are used to barbed wire eventually learn to avoid the poles. If a strand of wire falls down, the cows don't rush out of their enclosure because they see the polls as dangerous. Well, NJ residents are kind of like those cows. Most of them live in a world where guns just aren't in their orbit. They don't own a gun and don't know anybody who owns a gun, and don't have any desire to own a gun. If NJ became shall issue tomorrow, there would be no mad rush for new pistol permits - I honestly don't think anyone would notice except us. Heck, if you could buy a gun with straight NICS tomorrow, there would be no rush on guns either - the poles are still up. You know who would buy a gun? That friend you took shooting once who has had his FID application on his kitchen table for the past eight months because he is too lazy to fill it out. There is no pent-up public demand for this in NJ. So why would a legislator risk being ousted in a primary just to pass a law? The answer is that he wouldn't. It's more politically expedient to have CCW forced upon us so he can wring his hands and say "there was nothing I could do." They don't have half a brain. They are working with 100% of their brain and they know that at the end of the day they are accountable to the soccer mom who is scared of guns.

Here is what I know: Good O/U shotguns are expensive for a reason. It takes a lot of work to get both barrels registered perfectly. This just isn't something that can be done even with lower labor costs in a country like Turkey where Stoger is made. You may get one that is fine. You may get a bad one. This probably won't happen if you save your pennies and buy a $1,200 American or Italian shotgun. Can't afford $1,200? That's ok. Why not go with a pump? The whole O/U shotgun thing is a relatively new phenomenon. It wasn't that long ago that you saw people shooting clays with Ithaca Pumps and doing just fine. I think that an expensive O/U just makes you look really good when you miss. In my opinion, get a Mossberg 500 Security / Field combo (or the equivalent in an Remington 870. Get a skeet choke for clays and as an added bonus, you have the security barrel for social work. You will save yourself about $100 and use that money for extra practice ammo.

I actually think SCOTUS got that one right. That doesn't mean that I agree that the law is a good idea. Their job isn't to make sure whether the law is a good idea, their job is to make sure it's legal. The ACA trial was a question as to whether the government had the power to force someone to buy something with no prerequisite. If you own a car, the government can force you to buy car insurance. If you live in an area prone to floods, you have to get flood insurance. But the prerequisite to the ACA was being born. You can't choose not to be born. Basically SCOTUS said that no, the government couldn't force you to buy health insurance, but the government does have the power to tax. And what is the penalty but a tax? Look, in NJ, we have nothing to lose if this goes to the supreme court. Also note that my favorite sentence in the dissent was the one where the judge basically said that your constitutional rights are different if you live in an urban area as opposed to a rural one.

Depends. Casual? Dress? 90% of the time when I carry I'm wearing a suit and I use a no-clip Remora Tuckable holster, Go with that option and you don't need a belt. If it's for dress Galco makes some great stuff. The price is high, but you get what you pay for. http://www.galcogunleather.com/1-1-2-belts_8_254.html Else, I've carried OWB with a 5.11 rigger belt when I don't care what I look like and it works well.

Honestly, It would have to be my Glock 19. Yep. There is nothing quite like the feel of a piece of cold industrial plastic in your hand. It feels even better than kissing my sister or attending a monster truck rally... When I shoot my Glock 19, I feel like I'm really connecting with all of the mouth-breathing rednecks who have a Camaro on blocks in their front yard and an above ground pool with an obese mother-in-law in the back. Although my 92FS probably comes in a close second.

Actually, I am one of those leftest elitist. It even says so above my picture. Last I checked, conservatives aren't the only group with a self-interest in self-defense. And you got me, I am trying to figure out how to take your money away. I always want more.

Honestly I read the Wall Street Journal and listen to NPR. I don't consider NPR to be "liberal" at all, at least not when it comes to the NPR News and their financial show "Marketplace."

You could contact Leroy Stout in Hamilton: 609-586-5708 He's an FFL who has a number of historical firearms. If he doesn't have one to sell, me might know of someone who does.

I just noticed this thread again... No, I grew up in Princeton. I used to live on the East side of Cherry Hill. Then I moved to the west side when I got divorced. I'll tell you the difference between east and west Cherry Hill is like night and day.

I don't know all of the rules for Wild Bunch CAS, but I assume that they want the most authentic-looking type guns. To me, this would mean a gun with the crappy GI sights. I own an Auto Ordnance with the lousy GI sights. Para Ordnance makes a GI Expert with the lousy sights as well. Both will run you around $500. I've reviewed my Auto Ordnance 1911 here before. It's not designed to be a target gun. It's a WWII reproduction of a minute-of-badguy gun. I can put a hole somewhere in the bowling-pin of a man-sized target at 10 yards, which was pretty much what the 1911 was designed to do anyway. There are better 1911's out there for the money but they may not be aesthetically correct. I believe civil war reenactors called it "Farbiness."

Thank you. I'm on the forum all week. Try the veal.

I disagree. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own a bugle today. Bugles are basically military-grade signaling devices. Imagine if a child brought a bugle to school and brought down a Calvary charge into his classroom?

I've never been burglarized, but I've had it happen to friends - the place is usually trashed. Pictures are torn off the wall, bookshelves upended. I think that one of the things you have to understand is that when you enter a home you are already violating a pretty solid social contract - one that says a man's home is sacrosanct. If a man has already made the mental leap to violate this social contract, what other social contracts will he break? Weill he urinate in your bed? Smash your family pictures? Steal your daughter's dirty underwear? I am not a cop, but I imagine that there are basically three types of buglers: Professionals, amateurs, and opportunists. I don't think you have to worry much about the professional. He probably wants something very specific - namely jewelry or some kind of valuable to fence. He probably doesn't even want to get near a gun because he's probably served some jail time and doesn't want the additional charge if he is caught. Opportunists are the people you let into your home - the guys who so some yardwork and take $20 out of your wife's purse when they use your bathroom. They probably don't want your guns either. Although the world is full of amateurs. Maybe it's the friend of the guy who stole out of your wife's purse? Maybe it's some kids down the street who just want jewelry, cash or prescription meds? If they found a gun when they were going through your things they would probably take it - they're probably played enough Call of Duty to think they know how it works. But I wouldn't put it past those guys to trash your house just because they can. If you have a gun, you need a safe. Preferably an alarmed safe. If you feel you need quick access to it, it needs to be on your hip or in a biometric vault that will at least slow a thief down to the point that they give up because it's too much of a pain. Decoy safes aren't a bad idea either. Get a little lockbox and fill it with some cash, coins, maybe important-looking documents. Put that in your dresser drawer. The thief grabs the decoy safe and runs. He gets a few bucks, but he doesn't stick around to take your guns. If any of you LEO's out there have a different opinion of my view on buglers, I'd love to see if my theory is correct.

If only he had bought a Beretta...