Dan

You have mine an my family's condolences.

You can drive to a new range from an old range in an infinite loop and you would be OK under NJ exemptions. You can then break the loop by going directly home or other "reasonable deviations" like being abducted by aliens.

I do not believe Leatherman is anti-gun rights. All this hubub seems to stem from a 2004 announcement from Tim Leatherman that he supports Kerry for president. There was nothing anti-gun in the letter, more granola bar then anything else. Copy here : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1231976/posts. Here is a letter from Tim Leatherman making a comment on all of the hate mail that he receieved back then. Should clear things up. http://thebullspeaks.com/2004/11/a-letter-from-a-citizen-mr-leatherman/ So unless someone has some evidence that Leatherman as a company promotes and supports anti-2A movements and organizations, I am of the disposition that they are niether pro or against, and have chosen to take the 5th on the matter... publicly speaking that is.

Already ahead of you. I opted for bulk wrap , tape, and gauze pads as part of my plan. I also included conformal splits, triangle bandages, first aid ointment packets, sutchers, staples/stapler, field surgery kit, quickclot, and other stuff as part of my kit. Most of it stays at home, some of it is parted out to supply my get-home bags I keep in our cars. Amazon and ebay sells lots of this stuff in bulk, a lot is sold under the "Dynarex" name. The idea is to not kit out for years of zero medical services, but just a few weeks to a month or so while services and emergency help make it to the area and get spun back up after a disaster. edit: also included in my kit is a first aid manual. I know I could benefit from training as well, it is on the list of things to do.

In "zero tolerance" NYC, they only do this as to stay out of the national news for locking up innocent visiting gun owners with their unconstitutional laws. It is purley for self-preservation on their end, and if it was up to the overlords in NYC, they would fill their prisons in a heartbeat. Also, the last time they tried to lock up a tourist nabbed by their BS laws, he was set free by the jury via jury nullification. That's the last thing NYC wants to happen again as it demonstrates the laws are horribly broken when a jury decides to throw out the law and set an obviously "guilty" person free. reference http://nypost.com/2011/02/24/manhattan-jury-finds-man-who-had-loaded-gun-in-his-car-not-guilty/ As for NJ. The number one defense a NJ gun owner has when traveling with a handgun is discretion, aka not drawing attention to yourself. Once you check it in at a counter at an airport, that goes out the window. In NJ, traveling with a handgun is akin to breaking the law in the eyes of our justice system. Our exemptions only give us a chance of a LEO feeling you are in the green, a chance at a legal defense, and a perhaps chance at avoiding court if the prosecutor is too busy that month. If a cop in NJ finds you with a handgun, and decides he/she doesn't like you... You will be arrested for illegal posession and told to "tell it to the judge" when you try to explain how you are operating within overlord approved exemptions. The cop would just be "doing their job". Heck, its been demonstrated that exemptions could even be denied usage by a judge in court, ala Aitken. The bottom line, it all comes down to the encounter with the LEO. If they are extra power-trippy that day, or you rub them the wrong way... it could be a life changing event. I like to think most of our cops would use common sense and determine that all is on the up and up, but is that a chance you are willing to needlessly take? Fly out of Philly IMO.

I'm a licensed amateur radio opterator here. My rig is a Yaesu FT-857 tied to a OCF dipole for HF, and a dual band comet GP-3 verticle for vhf/uhf. I don't use it much now, but when I do , I really enjoy operating digital modes on HF, usually PSK-31 on 20 meters. I use a Rigblaster and Ham Radio Deluxe for my PC setup. I think having a license and ham radio is a good part of a prepardness plan. It is really the only stand-alone two way long distance communication option that you can go with that doesn't rely on external infrastructure (assuming you have a way of generating your own power). I just wish more of my friends would get into it as part of my plan. Unfortunately if you don't have some kind of interest in learning about the hobby, its difficult to convince someone to jump in. To get a license, all anyone needs to do is to read this manual http://www.arrl.org/general-class-license-manual and take the test. The manual is easy to understand, and isn't over the top techno-babble wise.

It's a good round in my eyes. Being cost equal to 7.62 now, I'd still choose it.

Ah 2 years isn't bad. I could have sworn the last time I went it was 1 year. It was awhile ago, so who knows. They can basically change their mind at will. I suppose there is some evidence out there that has fingerprints changing every 2 years, but as long as you get permits within 2 year periods, your fingerprints will stay the same.

Welcome, fellow Old Bridger here. My HG permit wait is typically 2 months. I usually have to place a few phones around the 1.5 month mark in order to facilitate movement. Of course I'm very polite and respectful, yet assertive. Make sure you apply for new HG permits at least twice a year. They have some silly timer now where if you haven't had a permit after a certian period, they make you go through fingerprinting again. Its just a form of harassment if you ask me, I haven't heard of any situation where your fingerprints change over time.

Nothing stores ammo better then ammo cans IMO! It's what they were designed for. Heavy duty steel with rubber gaskets keeps the nastyness out. Throw in some dessicant if you feel you need to. Plus it makes the ammo easy to move. If you start loading up a huge box with ammo, you will have to remove the ammo anytime you need to move the box. Also , ammo cans stack nicely. I line mine up in the utility room with some nice P-touch labels on them so I know whats what.

Imagine how bad it would be if you replaced gas lines with food/water lines. People turn to animals over not being able to drive to work or power their house's gadgets. Imagine a situation where people's families are hungry at home. As said earlier in the thread, once the threshold is passed, food becomes #1. At least in our part of the country it is fairly easy to get water provided you have a means to filter it/sanitize it.

If you don't have NG running to your house, IMO propane is a better choice over diesel unless you have a situation where you can rotate your diesel stock. Propane will essentially last forever in a storage tank, where diesel will not. Sure you can put addative, etc to stabilize it, but you will want to rotate at least every few years. Also, diesel can encounter issues when its really cold out. Before I switched to NG in the home, I was looking at a plan at tapping the home heating oil tank as a source of "diesel" for a gen. In the end I came to the conclusion that it just wasn't worth it, along with the added expense of a good diesel gen, and that a 100gal propane tank and tri-fuel option made more sense. Of course once I got NG ran to the house, that became the best option. What diesel is really good for is high duty cycle usage. If you need to power a remote camp on a regular basis for extended periods of time, the economies of diesel really shine and will kill propane or gasoline operating costs.

Yep, without the 7n6 surplus around, there is no longer a cost advantage over 7.62x39. To own and shoot it now would mean that you like the round for other reasons like performance/ballistics.

I think people are most upset because the 7n6 stuff was cheap and high quality. A 5.45 shooter will now have to pony up an extra $100 per 1080 rounds for new production import stuff.

It's easier for NJ dealers and gun manufacturors to just acquiesce to the State's demands whether or not there is legal grounds to challenge the orders. I don't blame them. The State gets to break the law and mount a legal defence all day long for free, whereas a NJ dealer would have to lay out serious bucks to challenge their authority. Just like the BATF abuses going on at the federal level, I'm sure our State plays the same game here. The "look the other way" and we won't cause any trouble for you situation. Just like our current AWB, as it stands in the statutes it is unconstitutional and we have the case law to prove it. If someone wanted to make a push for a stay of that law, the grounds are there. Of course the admin code was put in place as a band-aid approach by providing guidelines to prosecutors on how to use the broken "substaintially identical" clause in court. Needless to say, I do not think a judge has to adhere to the admin code standards, they only look at the statutes. I'm thinking that in theory, the unconstitutionally vague defense could still be used in a case today where you are charged with owning a NJ defined AW under the substaintially identical clause only because the statutes have not been changed yet. Sure the prosecutor will pull out the admin code "but but, we have this defined here in the admin code"... I'm just not certian how that would play out in the judge's eyes. Of course the easier route is to play the admin code game and stay out of a prosecutor's crosshairs.

This is unreal. You'd have to quit your job and become a full time activist/lobbyist to just keep up with all of the anti 2A civil right stuff going on right now in Trenton. Not to mention it's all become a party line political battle. These legislators are just voting for the side their leadership tells them to. Disgusting how they are using our civil rights as a weapon in party political war.

Unfortunately, I doubt it will prevent future shenanigans with forms. Without accountability and consequences, pd's can continue to break the law without a worry in the world. It seems they thought this guy was bluffing, but turned out he was happy parting with his time and bags of money to continue the fight in court. At least it paves the way for any future court actions. I just wish there were consequences for the police not following the laws. You know, like there are for civilians.

I used a US Carb "C" kit on a Subaru SGX5000 to convert it to tri-fuel. Works like a charm. I did have to cut the frame just a little in order for the airbox to live nicely. The kit uses a shim between the carb and air filter, and extends it out about an inch and a half. I didn't cut the frame all the way through, I just used a saws-all to slice a half-moon shape into the frame tube, then cleaned it up with a grinder. Add a little shaker can flat black, and looks like factory. Took all of 15 minutes if that. I know you were looking for non-frame cutting options, but I figured I'd let you know about my experiance just in case. Running a new gas line outside and purchasing of 25ft of 3/4" flex NG/propane hose along with the 3/4" quick disconnects fittings was shockingly more expensive than I thought. The hose and QD fittings (2 of them) came to around $300 alone. Of course would be cheaper if you needed a shorter hose.

Unless you are building the upper, you don't need special tools other then some punches and a small hammer to use with punches. It is for this reason that I always purchase my uppers assembled.

IMO build it. You'll have fun, customize the gun to your liking, and gain intimate knowledge of how everything works along the way. When I build my first one I used this guide http://www.ar15.com/content/guides/assembly/lower/ , there's tons of info out there, even vids. You can get a budget base model M&P for $700, or you may want to think about extending that budget another hundred or two. You'll be able to choose the parts you want, and have stuff like full magpul furniture which IMO is much nicer then stock CAR style stuff. I'm not going to tell what the "best" stuff is as that can be subjective, but I can tell you that I have chosen to make my AR builds with stuff like Spike's lowers along with Bravo Company and Palmetto State Armory full uppers. Furniture and rail systems are up to you, lots of good stuff out there. I'd just stay away from the unbranded stuff. I can't stay enough good things about magpul... affordable, quality, functional. Rail systems will set you back much more, but its a decision you should make when you choose an upper. Get one with the rail system that you want already installed if you can. Will set you back anywhere from another $250 to the moon. 16" barrels make for a great multi-purpose rifle. You could even go with a 14.5 with a factory pinned brake to make it 16". Don't forget any full upper you buy, you have to either have the seller pin a brake before shipping, or you can take the upper with a brake of your choice to a NJ smith to have it pinned for you. Usually another $30 or so service.

Doh, missed that episode lol

NickT that sounds great. One of these day's I'd like to have a getaway of my own. Good luck with that. mipa, not sure where you are coming from, going to, or anything about the road between on the vasaline/butt comment..... and don't want to know

I grew up in Woodbridge. Welcome to the forums!

I meant "fine line to walk", but for some reason my burnt out Friday brain omitted the rest.

Unfortunately I think it would be a fine line Mipa... unless you were to tell the people recreating on the property that they could only use a certian area of the property that does not include developments, and have them sign something acknowledging restrictions and waiving liability for good measure CYA. Stuff like trails and whatnot are covered. Its when you get into specific things like a bathroom building, or picnic area with an awning and grills, "designated and developed shooting site". etc. If the person was offered those to utilize, since they are developed, a person would have a reasonable assumption that they are safe... opening you up to negligence and liability. A dirt mound in the middle of the woods... if were so decided that was a good backstop by the recreation people would not constitute a "developed" shooting area, IMO of course.