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Get the .22 conversion for the Glock to save money on ammo and get more trigger time. Vlad G. was right--If you don't practice it doesn't matter what gun it is or what is on it sight wise! If you & the Wife have different size hands, you need to make sure that she has a hand gun (or a 20 ga. pump youth model shotgun) that she can get to at home when you're not there. It should fit her hands, not yours. If that's not possible with the options you've outlined, may I be so bold as to recommend a used S&W Model 586 .357 with 4" tube. Women LOVE to shoot this gun and hit quite well with it! I teach them how to penis the hammer back and fire it single action with .38 spls. and they can hit clay birds at 15 yards no problem--their first time shooting! Her hands ride up on the grip to get a better hold & control recoil, and your big paws can ride down the grips till it feels good in your hands. Having 15 shots is nice but somewhat useless if they don't hit their mark. The confidence that comes from practice will give her the edge she needs to defend herself, God forbid she has to. You've just started in the hobby, so welcome to a long journey. Practice teaches you just where the sear lets go so the bang isn't a complete surprise. Most Instructors tell you (from the Book) that the bang should be a surprise. I call BS on that! By KNOWING when the gun will fire you'll be better able to call your shots before you walk up to the target to check. Calling your shots means that you have the ability to mentally correct what you're doing wrong--like not following through the shot, yanking the gun sideways as you pull instead of squeeze the trigger and a host of other things for example. This all comes with the practice that Vlad G. spoke of. Listen to him, for he knows his stuff! And he has a Wife with small hands thats pretty darn good with her 20 ga. Youth Model too!

I'd take it for a ride--just ONCE and say thanks! Then I wouldn't hold a long gun up to my shoulder for a week, lol!

The various competitions last from a couple hours to a full day for the 3-Gun matches. Most are 2-3 hours in length. Most folks I know shoot all of their probationary appearances, having even more fun along the way. The standard time given for probationary members to complete their probation requirements & attend the various leagues is 6 months. Some do it quicker, some need more time due to work & family.

For the High Power League that meets on the second Sunday you can use either a sporting or military rifle shooting at 100 yards onto "reduced" size targets that simulate distances up to 600 yards. In layman's terms that means any center-fire bolt or semi-auto with iron sights, such as an AR platform or a Garrand or M-1A. 5.56 is basically the minimum caliber to be considered "high power". So your .30-.30 deer rifle from PA can be used here too. During USPSA side matches as well as our 3-Gun matches we use AR-15 style rifles using .223 or 5.56mm rounds. Same for the IDPA League side matches, strictly AR platforms. For the OBRAMS League (USPSA with rim fire .22 LR guns) we use GSG-5's and other pistols & rifles that sorta look like 1911's and AR-15's, only they shoot the inexpensive .22LR rounds. For the Adult Smallbore League at the indoor range, we use bolt action .22LR and shoot a 3-position match. Since I wasn't sure which competition you were referring to, I gave you the info on all or most of them. As you can see, lots to get involved & have fun doing! Dave

Just try it in lower case and an entire page of links & videos comes up: obrpc or www.obrpc.org . Or here's another one: www.oldbridgerifle.com . Get on the web site, and click on our newsletter to see & read about all of the fun you're missing. Don't worry about proving YOUR gun handling skills---just be GLAD that we as a club ask ALL of our prospective members to prove THEIR gun handling skills. Because we care about EVERYONES' SAFETY! When you're at the range alongside someone you haven't yet met, it's comforting to KNOW that they too had to pass a brief safety test, unlike shooting at a public range where you never know what or who you're dealing with or the safety level of the person next to you. Shooting our leagues gives you a chance to enjoy yourself and pick-up a few pointers from some of the best shots in their respective disciplines. A retired SWAT Leader with 28 years "On-the-Job" (that's a member of our club) once confided in me that he thought he knew how to shoot before he got here, and then told me that he always learns something new every time he shows up to shoot his favorite discipline--USPSA! When you see what we have to offer, you'll really want to jump in with both feet! Let me know when you're available for the tour. Dave

I as a small business owner, respectfully disagree. People as a rule, are basically penny-wise and pound foolish. Forget about Apple or jobs going overseas for a moment. It's really about how we spend our money and what that forces others to do. Take this forum for instance, and it's members unwillingness to even begin to understand the difference in overhead of a part-timer "Kitchen Table FFL" and one who is running a real brick & mortar sporting goods business with loads of extra overhead & inventory. It's all over this forum that a transfer costs a whole $50.00 or even more at some stores, plus the NICS check. So el-cheapos would rather mail-order guns to a "Kitchen Table FFL" than support a real local business. Maintaining an inventory for prospective buyers to drool over costs money, and so does everything from healthcare to carpet cleaning. Most of these things a part-timer doesn't have to take into consideration, since being a FFL for some is just a hobby that they make a few bucks at after they finish work that day. Meanwhile, some of the same members here bi**h that stores that sell ammo go out of business, forcing them to mail-order that stuff too! Seems like a never-ending vicious cycle to me! NO offense to anyone here, just one opinion of someone who enjoys going to a local store and will gladly pay a $75.00 transfer fee plus NICS to keep the guy in business. Or just buy stuff from his inventory or via no extra-charge special order, thus avoiding the transfer fee altogether! This IMHO is just ONE example of how our own community fails to see the trees for the forest.

LOVE them ALL!

Not once you turn-in your probationary member report to the membership committee. Let me explain: Right now you have to get 5 signatures from all of the various Discipline Chairmen. Your choice which 5: could be 5 different or all of the same, doesn't matter, although the intention is to get you familiar with all of the various fun things to do in the club. Out of the 5 appearences, you must participate in just two and can observe in the remaining 3, although most folks who like to shoot participate in all 5 and really love the idea of the leagues being beginner-friendly. As far as getting voted-in, the membership committee chairman brings forth all of the names of the probationary members who have completed all of their paperwork and paid their dues. He does this at the same meeting you finish submitting your probationary report and making your dues payments up-to-date, so it's really nothing more than a formality. Definitely NOT something to worry about cause the entire group gets voted in at once, without singling anyone out. Like I said, it's a procedural formality from our By-Laws. So after you complete your probationary paperwork, you're free to never show-up at another league activity as long as you live. But at only $5.00-$10.00 for most league matches, it sure is a fun way to meet like-minded folks and pick up a shooting trick or two from new friends that you've yet to meet. We have both outdoor & indoor ranges so there's always somewhere to shoot and have some fun. If you want a tour give me a PM and I'll arrange to meet you at one range or the other. Dave Rosenthal, Member-At-Large Board of Trustees

One for the Good Guys! I hope that the restaurant at least picked-up the Hero's check! Can't wait to read this one in American Rifleman's Armed Citizen column!

Vlad, I AGREE with all of you about the ruling, the Judge, etc. IT SUCKS that they can even try to do this! But it doesn't surprise me one bit. Just got distracted and posted prior to writing so. So I'm on your side of the issue with Govt. going out of control! Just wanted to give background on the real estate issue. Maybe the Judge has a cousin, OR?.......Need I say more, this IS NJ we're talking about!

That's really COOL! I had to get a tissue, since I'm a big Mush for this kind of stuff! This is the type of thing that I like to "re-create" in something that's known as an "Engagement Love Story", which is a story in pictures. PM me if you're interested so I can fill-in the details. Beach portraits are a specialty! Congrats again! Dave

Congrats to the entire family! Job well done Sir! And thank them both for their service to our Nation! IF you get a chance, please post some photos! We'd all love to see em'! Dave

I'm old enough to remember when Art Stock owned it and it was called the Playpen Lounge. This place has been one seedy establishment after another. Coke, smoke, and all of the "action" you could handle & pay for! I'm not into Strip Clubs, but you can almost throw a rock from their parking lot across the swamp into Delilah's Den new digs by the bridge, across from the closed movies. Delilah's is a NUDE juice bar, so there's plenty of First Amendment rights being displayed just across the way & down the road a little. NO need to go to Staten Island if you need to see your 1st Amendment rights in your lap. What really ought to happen is someone buy the place, expand it, bring in a good chef and loose the seediness. The big plans for the area across from them at the site of the old National Lead plant include a Bass Pro Shops as an anchor store in a project known as "The Point". If you google "The Point Sayreville NJ" you can watch a 4-5 minute professional commercial made by the real estate developer handling the property. Said developer wants to make a "Pier Village" style multi-use center with shopping & condos above with several restaurants, parking garage, etc. A really ambitious attempt at turning that industrial area into a showplace with ratables. AND jobs! This chess game all boils down to money. Sayreville probably promised to get rid of the eyesore as part of the "master plan" for the developer. What needs to happen is for the owner of the liquor license to be given the opportunity to buy-in to one of the restaurants at a good price. Once some REAL money gets offered, or a deal is struck, this "problem" will just go away. Till then all this really is is a disguised pissing contest over 1st Amendment rights. Meanwhile, you can walk to Delilah's Den from the Club 35 parking lot........

Be careful with the serpa holster...don't do like that idiot on Youtube did....put a .45 ACP round right through his leg and then posted it as a warning to others. It's ONLY a game, so keep your finger AWAY from the trigger as you draw! Have fun & be safe! Dave

.50 Barrett (a friend's) with Barrett Ball Ammo which was around 700 grains I think. The muzzle break on that gun is like an Abrams Tank! Stand right behind the Shooter and you're O-K. Stand at a 45 degree angle to the muzzle and it gets incredably LOUD incredibly FAST! Trick to operating that gun is just to "take the ride" and NOT jerk the trigger. My shot hit square in the center of the forehead of the Perp on a full-size hostage target. My brother held the semi-auto version off-hand and took a shot. His one-word response was, "WOW!". Dave

Old Bridge has rimfire rifle & pistol matches. Several forum members participate & have loads of fun!

Best advice I can give is to bring both and USE the one that you're more familiar with shooting, if there is THAT gun. Familiarity develops "muscle memory" as well as aiding you in a host of other areas. Grip, trigger squeeze, sight alignment, changing magazines under the pressure of a running clock, etc. all come into play. So the gun that you're the most familiar with shooting-wise is the right gun to bring to your first match. The "pretty one" that you just bought and haven't yet fired is NOT the gun to bring to a match. You don't want to have an A-D into the floor or ceiling because you never fired a 1911 single-action after releasing the thumb safety while drawing it from a strong-side holster! So go with what you KNOW and be safe & have FUN! Plenty of nice folks to help guide you and/or loan you an extra mag or mag pouch. Somerset's Match Director Tom R. is a friend of mine and a great guy. His contact info is up at the Range. He'll be glad to here from you so that he can fill you in. Be safe & have FUN! Dave

Thanks for the compliments. YOU are the reason I donated my day. I'm glad that you picked-up on all of the comaraderie in just your first visit. As a good friend of mine (a fellow Board Member) has been often quoted, "Old Bridge is a group of Shooters that have a Club, NOT just a Club that has members". The difference is the difference! Our Membership Committee runs it's monthly Sign-Up & Safety Check on the second Sunday of each month, starting PROMPTLY at 9:00 am at the Indoor Range. Best to plan on being there at 8:45 or before, so you get a good place to park and arrive on time. Bring your checkbook, a handgun (NO magnum loads) & ammo in a separate container, along with your NJ FID. The orientation lasts about 2 hours, with the Membership Committee doing a great job explaining the Range Rules and making sure that you're SAFE with the gun you've brought. You can give us a deposit and walk out with your credentials on the same day, all in one shot, as it's run very efficiently by dedicated volunteers. Hoping that you strongly consider membership. Nice shooting with you. Dave Rosenthal

Bayview has an indoor .22 LR prone rifle only range (smallbore & smallbore youth) as far as I've been told. They also own some nice property in South Jersey that is used by the members for deer hunting. If anyone has contact or better info, please pass it along to the OP. Dave

I stand corrected! Thanks! Trying to remember if they are all side ejection or top ejection models. Gun Bible will tell me!

Henry, That's what I thought. Seems this thread has sparked another on this same subject by the OP from a year or two ago.......

Are you sure that you're not just being strung-along? This seems alot like the thread from last year or the year prior to that, no? Is this the same politician you spoke to about this a long time ago? Can you tell us where we can read about this, i.e.: newspaper, township newsletter, etc.? I would welcome a range in East Brunswick! The more the merrier!

Even the Uberti antique reproduction Henrys in .45 Long Colt use the spring-loaded feeding tube. Same for the .44 spl. & .357 models. Not sure if anyone is currently making a "30-30 style feeding system" for pistol calibers in a Lever action.

You're going to get beat-up on the trade. Better to just get a minty used Henry (if you can find one) or just get a new one. I have a Henry .22 I gifted my son. Great plinker for sure.

I just wish to post that the day went quite well from my perspective. My function yesterday was Range Safety Officer. In first reading this thread, I felt that there was a need for a RO to help things run smoothly so I stepped-up to help. I brought my clay thrower to make things easier & safer at the shotgun range, and it did it's job. I met some really nice folks that are quite a decent shot (as well as being SAFE) and hope that they become members. I helped one guest fix a feeding problem with his shotgun. The highlight of my day was coaching a member's son in shooting my Garrand and seeing a big smile across his kisser! And his Dad's too! This is what our club is all about. Our members made sure that their guests did the right thing. ALL club Range Rules were adhered to. Kudos to Harry for running the mini safety meeting prior to using the ranges. Everyone was SAFE, eagerly obeyed all Range Commands, had a great time and policed all of their brass & hulls as well as rusted steel cases left by others. In addition, the garbage barrels from shotgun range, ranges 4,5,6 and 7 were dumped into the dumpster, leaving the place cleaner than you found it. Kudos on the clean-up! In reality there really wasn't a lot of you new folks there. I recognized several probationary members that just shot the PPC league last Friday evening. Pits 1,2,3,4 and 7 went unused by your group, and Pit 5 was being used by other members & 1 guest. The shotgun range was used until about 11:00 or so, then cleaned-up. Other members & their guests came, shot & left without incident, as it should be. In closing, I feel that the Board acted wisely in protecting the interests of the Old Bridge Rifle & Pistol Club. Four of us donated our time yesterday to allow this event to happen. NONE of us are Range Nazis! We're just volunteers trying to see that our single page of Range Rules are adhered to. May I suggest that any future "Meet-Ups" be proposed by a group of our members, to the Board, for Board approval, as Jim Norman said in a previous post. Our Board is very willing to listen to its' members. The diversity of shooting opportunities exhibited in our leagues and other shooting events is proof of that. Dave Rosenthal, Member-at-Large Board of Trustees Old Bridge Rifle & Pistol Club